PREGAME: SF vs Carlton

[old dee 23,420]

11 minutes ago, Demon17 said:

Tmac out for me.  Sub is the last position he could play. Would offer very little in the final heat of the game.

Who are you going to put in instead the cupboard is bare. 

[Boots and all 998]

Just now, old dee said:

Who are you going to put in instead the cupboard is bare. 

TMac has to stay in, we do not have an alternative. Grundy has to come in too, even if he plays predominantly in the ruck and Gawn plays forward a little more. There is no way that we can go in with TMac as the only tall forward....or can we?

[dazzledavey36 52,471]

10 minutes ago, Demon Jack said:

With McKay out, would it be worth rolling the dice by bringing in Tomlinson and throwing May forward? Would certainly provide a better forward contest than Schache or Grundy.

We're running out of options.

[censored] it, I would!

[BDA 22,170]

12 hours ago, Chook said:

I think you'll find supporter morale at a post-flag year low. I'd be surprised to see dees fans turn out in much force unfortunately especially after putting up with Pies fans last week. A lot just won't want to go through that again.

Find this very hard to believe. If you can't be bothered to turn up to a final because of low morale then you're not a supporter to begin with.

[Demon17 5,019]

1 hour ago, Fat Tony said:

Is that confirmed? I assumed we would be Friday

Correct.  Whately just stated its a Friday night game. As it should be.

[BDA 22,170]

11 hours ago, DubDee said:

Does anyone have the stats on teams winning the flag after losing the QF?

i remember the Hawks doing it 

i seriously think we could do it. we are fit enough

The week off helps, with only five teams – Brisbane in 2003, Sydney in 2005, West Coast in 2006, Hawthorn in 2015 and Richmond in 2020 – losing qualifying finals, then winning the flag

[ElDiablo14 4,827]

3 minutes ago, BDA said:

Find this very hard to believe. If you can't be bothered to turn up to a final because of low morale then you're not a supporter to begin with.

I think he's got a point though, re the ferals. Carlton won't be an improvement on the Pies, probably worse.

If I had a family with kids, I don't think I'd feel safe to bring them along.

[Demon17 5,019]

20 minutes ago, old dee said:

Who are you going to put in instead the cupboard is bare. 

I don't like him as a sub.  He can stay in or not. We won't win because of him.

[Abyssal 434]

1 hour ago, Demons11 said:

🤦🏼‍♂️

It’s very easy to hide behind a ‘facepalm’.

Was the question too hard for you to answer ?

 

[dl4e 5,840]

We never make many changes at Melbourne so it will be Gus and JVR out and JJ and Grundy in. I would prefer Turner to Grundy but they will take the conservative approach. Turner can play back and maybe experiment forward where as Grundy can only tap ruck.

[Nascent 8,537]

Carlton will match us in the centre and have a much more even inside 50 count. We surely need to play with three key tall defenders, even with McKay out.

[BDA 22,170]

14 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

I think he's got a point though, re the ferals. Carlton won't be an improvement on the Pies, probably worse.

If I had a family with kids, I don't think I'd feel safe to bring them along.

Then get a babysitter and leave the kids at home.

[bandicoot 1,395]

13 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

I think he's got a point though, re the ferals. Carlton won't be an improvement on the Pies, probably worse.

If I had a family with kids, I don't think I'd feel safe to bring them along.

Correct. I was sitting in afl members for the Collingwood game and I would never bring my 12 and 10 year old. Felt very unsafe 

[bandicoot 1,395]

16 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

I think he's got a point though, re the ferals. Carlton won't be an improvement on the Pies, probably worse.

If I had a family with kids, I don't think I'd feel safe to bring them along.

I wouldnt be surprised that AFL has a full alcohol ban in a few years. No point having mid strength beers if bogans just load up on full strength bourbons 

Edited September 9, 2023 by bandicoot

[layzie 32,576]

17 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

I think he's got a point though, re the ferals. Carlton won't be an improvement on the Pies, probably worse.

If I had a family with kids, I don't think I'd feel safe to bring them along.

Complete nonsense.

[ElDiablo14 4,827]

Just now, layzie said:

Complete nonsense.

Are you saying there are no ferals within the Carlton army? I have experienced both Carlton and Collingwood and are, in my view, at a similar level.

[dazzledavey36 52,471]

 

[BDA 22,170]

If we kick straight, we'll win.

If we don't, we won't. I think it's that simple.

We'll win all the other stats just like we did against the pies.

I don't see Grundy helping our goal kicking. Stick with TMac rusty and all as he is. IF we can get it into his hands he's a much better set-shot.

I think spargo should come back in. I'm a big fan of his because he can deliver a pass. He might be able to find Tmac and Fritsch on the lead. He has lost his form badly this year, i acknowledge that, and has rightly dropped but jeez we need his kicking skills and I50 delivery. Worth a punt, i think.

[spirit of norm smith 14,877]

Team selection 

unavailable ❌ Petty. Melksham.

definitely out - Brayshaw (WWE elbow move by Maynard)  JVR (suspended) 
 

potentials.  Grundy. Tomlinson  Schache.  JJ. Woey jnr.  Spargo. Turner. Harmes. AMW 
 

question marks - 1  Tmcd slow and slower  but needed as JVR out and no alternative 2- out of form Chandler.  Salem.  Need to lift. 3- lost in space -Laurie …he’s out for sure 
 

Considerations. 1- Blues two key forwards - Curnow and Mckay. (Need Tomlinson or Smith to go back into Curnow)  2- blues Mids are stronger with Cerra and Walsh in (need Rivers to run with Cerra imv) 3- need to not ALLOW Weitering or Kemp to mark every ball inside 50. (Need grundy in to contest against Weitering) 
 

suggested changes. 
out - Brayshaw (concussion )  JVR (suspended) Laurie sub omitted. 
In - Grundy, Tomlinson , JJ (sub) 

Mcvee Tomlinson Lever 

Salem May Bowey

Lingers Viney Hunter

ANB Grundy Sparrow

Kozzy Tmcd Fritsch

Gawn Trac oliver 

int.  Rivers Hibberd Chandler J.Smith 

sub. JJ 

emerg. Spargo. Woey jnr Schache Turner

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,197]

13 minutes ago, Nascent said:

Carlton will match us in the centre and have a much more even inside 50 count. We surely need to play with three key tall defenders, even with McKay out.

I think we need to maintain that structure for the rest of the year.

[Kent 2,829]

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

He wasn't there to take Nibblerd spot bin.

Right now he'd be competing with Chandler and Spargo. On form alone this year he's ahead of both.

He's the number 1 rated small forward in the competition for defensive tackling and pressure. Something we're actually lacking right now.

True true dazzle  I would have been happy if they had played him more games

[Kent 2,829]

3 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

I think we need to maintain that structure for the rest of the year.

I would love to see Rivers take Brayshaws role

[Abyssal 434]

1 hour ago, drysdale demon said:

Like other players from all clubs, he was peed off because he didn't get enuff games last year, quite sure if he stuck around he most likely would have been a regular this year. I was just reminding Kent that we didn't give him away. 

Hope that satisifies YOU

No it doesn’t.

It doesn’t explain why the Club didn’t identify his true talent and nurture it, instead of favouring others who had received many more chances and clearly had less up side.

Having Bedford now would have substantially improved our Premiership chances.

[layzie 32,576]

7 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Are you saying there are no ferals within the Carlton army? I have experienced both Carlton and Collingwood and are, in my view, at a similar level.

I went to plenty of games at Princes Park back in the day, while it was intimidating at times it was mostly a tame environment. I also went to plenty of games at Victoria Park, I don't remember one time where there wasn't some kind of issue and leaving the ground was never easy as an oppo fan. 

There isn't one game I go to where I feel I need to have my wits about me as much as Collingwood games. In comparison going to a Carlton game is a walk in the park. 

[DubDee 24,113]

T Mac stays in. missed 3 months and came in for a fierce contest. he’ll come good

Trac to play 80% fwd plus Fritsch will have to do.