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PREGAME: Rd 22 vs Carlton

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2 hours ago, old55 said:

I think there's 3 broad alternatives this week, in addition to Oliver for JJ or Harmes which applies in all 3:

In: Grundy Out: Petty
Positives: Retains the extra mid we have and allows us to sub Grundy (Hibberd as sub)
Negatives: Relies on Max/Grundy forward

In: Tomlinson or Hibberd Out: Petty
Positives: Retains the extra mid we have (Tomlinson or Hibberd as sub)
Negatives: Relies on Smith forward (which may be better than Gawn/Grundy). Means JVR has to ruck significant minutes - he did 37% vs North.

In: Tomlinson/Hibberd and Grundy Out: Petty, JJ/Harmes (so both of them are out, one for Oliver and one for Grundy)
Positives: Gives us Gawn/Grundy and Smith forward
Negatives: We lose the extra mid (but would have JJ or Harmes as sub)

As you know, I'm for the third one.

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    2 hours ago, Young Angus said:

    I just want to see Smith back as sub because he was an amazing sub, Oliver for Harmes, Tomlinson for Smith and send down back, Grundy for Petty and just give it a shot again.  Plays forward, doesn't interrupt Gawn's game, is second ruck, how bad can it be he's a pretty decent footballer...just hope he can kick straight!

    Agree Smith is the perfect sub. He already jumps higher and uses his athleticism advantages really well. These strengths are even more pronounced against tired players late in a third or fourth qtr

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    17 hours ago, old55 said:

    #10 skip your notice fr_ap? He's been pretty handy.

    He’s been very very good in the middle. Amazing when Gus is playing well not many seem to praise him. When he makes an error or two like every other player he gets bagged constantly by the same ones.

    Last week’s electrifying performance, makes it two in the last four weeks.

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    I thought Goody normally does his presser at our main training session? It’s today isn’t it?

    20 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

    I thought Goody normally does his presser at our main training session? It’s today isn’t it?

    I can’t remember which reporter it was but they suggested that Goody would be doing his presser on Friday 

    Will edit post if I can dig it up


    8 minutes ago, Demonland said:

     

    I used to think the same of Ben Brown when at North. Which is why I wasnt that keen on getting him, as it turns out he is now a Dees premiership player.

    in 2018 he kicked 61 goals with 48 frees for.

    in 2019 he kicked 64 goals and got 44 frees for.

    I might be wrong, but I think in one of those years, he kicked 41 goals from free kicks.

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    3 minutes ago, SFebes said:

    I used to think the same of Ben Brown when at North. Which is why I wasnt that keen on getting him, as it turns out he is now a Dees premiership player.

    in 2018 he kicked 61 goals with 48 frees for.

    in 2019 he kicked 64 goals and got 44 frees for.

    I might be wrong, but I think in one of those years, he kicked 41 goals from free kicks.

    Without looking at any stats from his time at the Demons he seems to get more frees on average than any of our other key forwards but less than other forwards at other clubs and less than he used to get at North. 

    Obviously because he’s a Demon now and I am very one eyed. 

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    24 minutes ago, Demonland said:

     

    An awful lot of softies there.

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    49 minutes ago, John Crow Batty said:

    An awful lot of softies there.

    Melksham would have kicked 5 on the weekend if he was umpired the same way.

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    1 hour ago, Demonland said:

    Without looking at any stats from his time at the Demons he seems to get more frees on average than any of our other key forwards but less than other forwards at other clubs and less than he used to get at North. 

    Obviously because he’s a Demon now and I am very one eyed. 

    Confirmation bias thrives on blindness

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    Brown gets a lot of chopping the arms free kicks because he's tall and attacks the ball at the top of his reach.

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    Grundy should make a return to the seniors , I think he has the X-factor. Smith based on past game disposals would find it hard to get a game however he should play. 

    14 minutes ago, SFebes said:

    Did I just see Charlie Dixon is out for Port for 4wks with a foot fracture

    Yes according to C7

    Also they said in: Clarrie and Grundy

    out: Petty and Harmes 

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    36 minutes ago, SFebes said:

    Did I just see Charlie Dixon is out for Port for 4wks with a foot fracture

    That’s massive. 

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    24 minutes ago, spalding said:

    Yes according to C7

    Also they said in: Clarrie and Grundy

    out: Petty and Harmes 

    Great ins. Glad to see Grundy back (and the 🐐 as well of course).

    Where will we play Smith? I hope we put him forward, though it leaves May and Lever as our only tall defenders, making it harder for them to zone off...

    Thanks Chomper, all the best ❤️💙

    Oliver in for JJ or Harmes

    I reckon Grundy is in but under what system?  Gawn has to be the main man in the ruck unless we want to give him a breather prior to the finals

    At a guess it's Grundy to ruck 40% of the time, maybe 15% on the bench with 20% forward & 25% back

    Gawn 60% rucking, 25% forward & 15% on the bench

    Which means we might need another tall forward or Petracca plays forward more (with Clarrie back) And Smith can be used forward when applicable

    That will leave Brayshaw & Viney as being predominantly used on the ball (Brayshaw is in good form so why change his role?)

    We can always push Kozzie & Petracca into the middle when the any of the main 3 are having a spell.  Sparrow to be used sporadically at the stoppages as well

    Hibberd to be the sub again

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    I hope Gawn plays a fair bit forward and shows something when he's there. I understand he's a fantastic ruckman and is blowing teams out of the water in that area in Grundy's absence, but part of his role in the Gawn/Grundy partnership is to play forward as well, and he has underperformed in that just as much as Grundy has.

    They both need to lift their forward game if this is to work like it needs to over the next couple of months.

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    27 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

     

    Discarded ruckman?

    Where did they find him? Behind the couch?

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    6 minutes ago, binman said:

    Discarded ruckman?

    Where did they find him? Behind the couch?

    Good find that. I only find empty chip packets and dog hair behind my couch. 

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    7 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

    Good find that. I only find empty chip packets and dog hair behind my couch. 

    Does your dog eat chips?

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