On 21/07/2023 at 02:10, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Are you referring to Casboult beating Tomlinson? I don't believe Tomo played that day.

He did get a hiding against the Essendon forward line in Adelaide.

Yeah, I think Casboult gave Turner a touch up.

  On 21/07/2023 at 20:57, dazzledavey36 said:

If Tomlinson leaves, I presume we'll target an experienced defender as depth.

Agree.  We would have to. Daniel Turner is promising but doesn’t have the size and is more of a backup for Lever.  Adams and Kye Turner are very raw and skinny. At least 2 years away.  Tomlinson provides cover for Petty and May.  He’s done well when played this year and would attract attention on the market if we decided to move him on.  If so, we would have to get another mature bodied big defender as a backup with May being 32 at start of next year and Petty picking up a few injuries this year.  

  On 21/07/2023 at 22:03, Roger Mellie said:

Yeah, I think Casboult gave Turner a touch up.

Not surprising with probably 20kgs heavier and about 7 cms taller, plus a lot of AFL experience.

  On 20/07/2023 at 03:20, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Is is it possible we and the media overrated his performance against Collingwood?

At the time it appeared as though it was one of the stiffest omissions of recent memory. Maybe the coaches weren't satisfied with his performance and didn't have the confidence to continue with him irrespective of Petty who was injured at the time.

He'd slot in really well at North as one of their key defender if he's got the stomach to digest a 3 to 5 win season.

It's not possible that Tommo's form  was overrated on KB.

Yes it was I believe his best all round game for us as we got drive from his game not just defence. 83,000 plus saw his game and he is at the moment after that and at Casey at the top of his game.

Not a great selection decision to drop him ( one of Goody's worst in fact) and Petty should have been eased back in with a Casey game and CHF on his and our minds! Where has thjs experiment gone without a full blown chance of success? And why ?

Therefore Tommo commands consideration as an AFL standard defender great back up and up there with May Rick and Petty as he can handle a key position say on Hawkins, Lewis if need be and perhaps Casboult.

Unfortunately Disco can't play that role but is Levers back up or a HB flanker intercepting. Try he Suns game proved that even though it appears harsh on Disco at this stage.

One of the posters here has said he wouldn't lose any SLEEP if Tommo was not with us next year. Well I think most thinking Dees fans know he would need replacing especially if we want Petty to still try as a forward. For the very reasons above Tommo is needed when we are serious about our depth and a quality defender available. Name who can replace him?

No one whether you are awake or asleep!!!  Jed Adams May in 12 mths time if he builds his frame but not this year at this stage of his development.

So it's great that Tommo is back and actually I won't lose ANY sleep if he is asked to mind one of the Crows talls but I sure would if we didn't have him.

PS Joel Smith in certain circs May be up to it but I don't think we can be sure yet to rely on him on the bigger KP giants that are looking for goals.
 

  On 21/07/2023 at 20:57, dazzledavey36 said:

If Tomlinson leaves, I presume we'll target an experienced defender as depth.

We would be looking for someone like Tomlinson.

I think that's why he stays.

  On 22/07/2023 at 00:11, rjay said:

We would be looking for someone like Tomlinson.

I think that's why he stays.

and about 5 years younger

I'm not convinced the club has closed the door on Petty forward and Tomlinson back. Lets see how JVR and BBB go over the next fortnight before locking anything away.

Package Tomlinson, Grundy and pick four to west coast for pick 2

  On 22/07/2023 at 23:39, Ugottobekidding said:

Package Tomlinson, Grundy and pick four to west coast for pick 2

What have Tomlinson and Grundy done to deserve this career death sentence? 

  On 22/07/2023 at 23:48, Jaded No More said:

What have Tomlinson and Grundy done to deserve this career death sentence? 

Tomlinson would get a game every week and Grundy can get number one ruck and we could get Harley 

  On 23/07/2023 at 01:32, Ugottobekidding said:

Tomlinson would get a game every week and Grundy can get number one ruck and we could get Harley 

Guess our looking at another defender is not such a big  deal if we snagged Harley Reid. Maybe Brodie could play CHB if needed!! Hold on we would need a replacement for both wouldn't we? 

Ben McKay and one of the DeKonings looks alright! No Worries! Plus Harley. 

  On 23/07/2023 at 01:32, Ugottobekidding said:

Tomlinson would get a game every week and Grundy can get number one ruck and we could get Harley 

Neither of those guys would ever entertain going to West Coast. They are both at the stage of their careers where they want success. 

  On 21/07/2023 at 15:07, DemonWA said:

Given Barass seems to be open to leave WCE I'd be surprised to see Thommo get much more interest than last year 

u know the ruck merry-go-round. well now we have the Key defender merry-go-round and the inside mid go round

Barrass, Sav, Clurey, Tomlinson, Doedee, BMckay, Himmelberg, DGB all floated as available or on the move in some capacity

Crouch, DevRobertson, Mathieson, Dow, Macrae, Shiel, Parfitt, EHollands, Harmes, JJ

all move for opportunity and then fill the spot of someone else to be depth elsewhere, tommo will leave but someone will come in to replace him in the squad unless they back in Smith, Adams and KTurner

Tomlinson held us together at times and was pretty calm under fire. I thought he was in our best six.

May did not play with his normal purpose and steely focus ,same with Lever, although the latter improved a bit in the second half.

Good on Adam yesterday l would be sorry if he goes. When called to step us he usually does the job.

 

 

  On 22/07/2023 at 23:39, Ugottobekidding said:

Package Tomlinson, Grundy and pick four to west coast for pick 2

You gotta be kidding Ugottabekidding. 

could be adelaide bound now with murray joining doedee in the acl club late on

  On 24/07/2023 at 22:45, Turner said:

could be adelaide bound now with murray joining doedee in the acl club late on

it would suit him perfetly imo that backline.

 

 

  On 23/07/2023 at 22:58, layzie said:

You gotta be kidding Ugottabekidding. 

Sorry meant pick one

  On 23/07/2023 at 22:44, Dockett 32 said:

Tomlinson held us together at times and was pretty calm under fire. I thought he was in our best six.

May did not play with his normal purpose and steely focus ,same with Lever, although the latter improved a bit in the second half.

Good on Adam yesterday l would be sorry if he goes. When called to step us he usually does the job.

 

 

Absolutely.  I had Tomlinson in my votes. Solid. Made the right decisions.  Only one fumble but otherwise surely handling.  Bodied out Fogarty in many marking contests who just him twice on the lead when we had turnovers.  

I think the Crows would be an option for him if he decides to leave. They’d be interested in someone of his experience. 

I have no issue if he stays in the side for the rest of the year.

We are undefeated since round 1 2021 with the May/Lever/Tomo combo. Yes you didn't read that incorrectly. Undefeated.

Can we trust Petty to get through a final without getting injured? He's definitely one of the more injury prone players on our list.

With that being said, I think it's pretty obvious that Petty will be replacing Tomlinson at the earliest chance.

Surely after Sunday he stays!! He is contracted and we should hold him to it and PLAY him! Apart from anything else, in a team where our disposal is iffy, his is a real plus 90% of the time. I love the idea of him, Salo, McVee all distributing out of the backline.

  On 25/07/2023 at 01:11, Bring-Back-Powell said:

We are undefeated since round 1 2021 with the May/Lever/Tomo combo. Yes you didn't read that incorrectly. Undefeated.

that's an amazing stat

Keep him, Petty is somewhat overrated on this site, still being judged on 2021 form, has dropped off somewhat also keeps getting injured.

If Ben McKay is worth first round compensation, then that's what Tomlinson would be worth too if he was to leave. Fact is he's achieved more, is in better form and is more durable than McKay. I'm being sarcastic obviously, but also shows the insanity that Ben McKay is worth anything more than third round compo. Legitimate lunacy he's being considered worth first round compo. 

Tommo has been really good this year. He was again our best tall defender on the weekend. We seem to play better with him in the team as opposed to Petty. Lever and May are able to free themselves more when Tommo is there. Perhaps he makes them walk taller or feel more confident take risks.

Petty has obviously struggled with injury, but Tommo has outperformed him in every way and deserves to stay in the team. Petty needs to earn his spot through the VFL now as he's been poor this year and is being stubbornly selected off past reputation at this point.