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3 minutes ago, Tom Dyson said:

I think there is serious merit in questioning whether Mark Stafford is up to it as a forwards coach, people who defend him point to our excellent percentage which really has only been built off the back of beating rubbish bottom teams by large margins early in the season. 

We look so unbelievably impotent going inside forward 50 and our conversion is just shocking. 

Can't defend stafford in the slightest while our forward line is operating like it is. 

It's been like this for the last 2 years, nothings changed.

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3 minutes ago, Redlagged said:

You actually look forward to Goodwins press conferences? I've defended his coaching. But his public utterances are utterly predictable and as dreary as bat [censored]. 

No, I'm hoping the journos ask the tough questions. 

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8 minutes ago, Wodjathefirst said:

We were competitive and in the game for three quarters and obviously dropped off big time in the last. It was shocking weather and it was against a very good side at their home ground.

Not a good outcome but it is not the end of the world. Looking forward to how we respond next week.

Yes it is top 4 gone now 9 wins 5 losses is not a top 4 side.  Will be lucky to make 8.    We lose to gws away Northern Territory  next week.  St Kilda at marvel is a loss.  Face it the good times Zte over for years.  Had our gd 2 years.  It’s over

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26 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Honestly the forward line worked for 3/4’s.

JJ subbed off his job on Stewart was a disaster. It put Smith on to Stewart which didn’t work and simultaneously took Smith away from finding some space and the ball 

Midfield then gave up a few clearances to start the last, and forward line blew big chances in the worst possible way.

Our forward line had issues all night culminating in the Cats breaking away in the last quarter

Forwards played from behind, our crumbing was non-existent and we kicked poorly at goal

And you're saying it worked for 3/4s?

No it didn't work otherwise we would have kicked a winning score

I don't know what you're are watching but your comments are bizarre and clearly wrong

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Just now, gregdemon said:

Yes it is top 4 gone now 9 wins 5 losses is not a top 4 side.  Will be lucky to make 8.    We lose to gws away Northern Territory  next week.  St Kilda at marvel is a loss.  Face it the good times Zte over for years.  Had our gd 2 years.  It’s over

That’s the spirit!

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52 minutes ago, BW511 said:

I know ANB gives a lot to our game plan with his running but he’s the ultimate ‘almost’ man. 
 

Almost has a decent game, almost kicks a goal, almost picks the ball up, almost gets rid of the ball in a tackle, almost takes a mark. 

 

Almost makes me spew.

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7 minutes ago, layzie said:

How about Rohan in the middle after prior being held up in the tackle for ages and then just throwing it out to someone (Duncan maybe) for play on. 

That was just after Viney was called for hand balling as a throw.

Commentators said to cover it up, the umpire was blind sided both times. What about the other three?

Then a Cat's player is caught with the ball and they call sling tackle.

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3 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Not sure it is his fault we have kicked 24-46 in our last few games.

I don't think he coaches them to miss from dead in front close to goal.

Kick straight for goal and we could have barely lost a game this year.

He is also not picking the side.

Choco was meant to be the kicking guru.

Well we are the worst kicks in the AFL, for goal and all over the ground.

I agree in part, but i think its also interesting to note that in the last quarter, geelong only had 1 extra f50 entry and yet outscored us 6 goals to 2, skill errors and inaccuracy are always going to be the fault of the players but our forward structure and the way we deliver the ball seems so incongruous with the personnel we are working with. 

Maybe i'm barking up the wrong tree, just so frustrating that with the list we have we dish up performances like that way more often than we should. 

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47 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

Spargo and Chandler lucky to get games at present. Was Chandlers purple patch a moment in the sun. I hope not but he's gone very quiet.

I love Trac but I don't think a player with his skill hits the scoreboard enough.

As for the Grundy Gawn combo scoring effort, We are still waiting.

Shut down Fritta and we can't score.

Smith's 2 early goals were good but We need ANOTHER tall simon. How can you not see this?

Based on the available evidence, a total disaster on so many levels. Completely [censored] Max.

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One thing I will say is that Geelong held on and scragged our players all night and got away with it. Gawn was manhandled in every ruck contest. They get a bloody good go that mob. 

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1 minute ago, gregdemon said:

Yes it is top 4 gone now 9 wins 5 losses is not a top 4 side.  Will be lucky to make 8.    We lose to gws away Northern Territory  next week.  St Kilda at marvel is a loss.  Face it the good times Zte over for years.  Had our gd 2 years.  It’s over

We’ll make the 8, and should (should!) still make top 4. Our biggest blessing is that no one else is any good either. Pies and Port are clear top 2 but we’ve beaten the Pies, got close to Port and would probably beat them at the G if we put 4 quarters together.

We’ve got the list to win this flag, I just don’t think we will as we can’t get our mids to kick it anywhere near our forwards and can’t get our forwards to lead and/or get out of each others’ way

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1 minute ago, Redleg said:

That was just after Viney was called for hand balling as a throw.

Commentators said to cover it up, the umpire was blind sided both times. What about the other three?

Then a Cat's player is caught with the ball and they call sling tackle.

Yeah what was that blindsided BS all about? Really need to start muting the tv.

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2 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Yet last week was a masterclass from Goody and was recognised by many.

Yes Goodwin isn't  recognised as a top coach. Possibly the suspicion is that he isn't capitalising on the talent at his disposal. (Personally I disagree with this...we have talent unevenly spread, and rather too many B graders.)  But maybe the real reason is his public profile. He is so bland and talks in cliches. Never says anything slightly risky. Like his coaching come to think of it.

 

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46 minutes ago, Demonsone said:

What’s the point of 2 gun rucks …zero goals between them ..  fwd line expecting Jvr & smith to kick a winning score???   

When people were worried getting Grundy would keep us as a long ball team, this was the kind of game they were worried about.

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9 minutes ago, A F said:

One thing I will say is that Geelong held on and scragged our players all night and got away with it. Gawn was manhandled in every ruck contest. They get a bloody good go that mob. 

Been happening to Gawn since the beginning of time. God created the heaven, the earth and the holding on Gawn for no free kick. 

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'No doubt there tackle pressure and contest work were critical in the last,' if it is so clearly critical and obvious to you now, then why not address the players at 3qt time and stress the urgency of ramping up pressure in the last, from memory geelong had laid 8 tackles in the last before we laid our first. 

Is anyone else getting annoyed by Goody's press conferences, deflects questions about our flaws focusing on what we did well for however short a time, praises the other team while stating we knew the contest would be tough, identifies learnings to work on for the next game even though they've been the same learnings we've needed to work on for 18 months and haven't really gotten discernibly consistent at executing. 

Just about every d-lander i reckon knows how these pressers will go before they happen. Just seems like all talk. 

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