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PREGAME: Rd 16 vs GWS

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2 hours ago, A F said:

They need to hit the scoreboard, no doubt, but the last two weeks, we're +24 for inside 50 tackles, so they are doing brilliant work defending and maintaining territory for us.

JJs problem is with the addition of Hunter, JJ can no longer fill in on a wing, which means when he's not playing midfield, he's basically on the bench, because he's not great at half forward.

Last word on this AF. I have done a bit more digging into the stats. I know that they can really tell you whatever you want them to but in the last 4 games we have laid 57 tackles in our forward 50. Of those 57 Chandler has laid 5 and Spargo 3.

For reference, in the same 4 games JVR laid 6 tackles, ANB 8 and Fristch 4. 

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    24 minutes ago, CHF said:

    Last word on this AF. I have done a bit more digging into the stats. I know that they can really tell you whatever you want them to but in the last 4 games we have laid 57 tackles in our forward 50. Of those 57 Chandler has laid 5 and Spargo 3.

    For reference, in the same 4 games JVR laid 6 tackles, ANB 8 and Fristch 4. 

    Chandler's actually laid 8 in the last 4 games. But he had zero in the Carlton game.

    Since then, he's stepped up and he's also had 4 shots on goal for 4 behinds. He needs to improve his accuracy, but if he kicks straight the last two games, we're talking about him very differently.

    It's a game of margins and I'd prefer to back the work rate of Chandler, which is also helping our forward half IMO.

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    After last week's effort I think we beat the giants and beat them comfortably. 

    It's the following week that I'm more concerned about.

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    Key to this game is stopping GWS clearance game. If we can nullify this, we win this comfortably (assuming we kick somewhat accurately)
     

     


    11 hours ago, Superunknown said:

    Out - fumbly players

    In - sure footed confident ball grabbers as sticky handed as a burro on the side of a Bolivian mountain boulevard !

     

     

    So any players not using grippo...OUT ....those willIng to use it...IN

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    1 hour ago, A F said:

    Chandler's actually laid 8 in the last 4 games. But he had zero in the Carlton game.

    Since then, he's stepped up and he's also had 4 shots on goal for 4 behinds. He needs to improve his accuracy, but if he kicks straight the last two games, we're talking about him very differently.

    It's a game of margins and I'd prefer to back the work rate of Chandler, which is also helping our forward half IMO.

    Yep. you are right.... 8 tackles inside 50 in the last four and a total of 17 tackles in the same period.

    I like Chandler and think he has done well this season but I see him as out of form and I would prefer to see him gain form at Casey.

     

    11 hours ago, ElDiablo14 said:

    Who in the VFL list could provide those skills? Lawrey, Woewodin?

    Yes and you could add Dunstan (great hands most of the time and pretty clean, kicking is a 50/50 proposition) Howes and of course Bowey

     
    9 hours ago, Cyclops said:

    As I see it Alex Neal-Bullen is not playing well and may even be a momentum crusher. I would replace ANB with Harmes. Harmes can play a role, is a strong mark and is a good kick for goal.

    BBB is no longer able to play at AFL level especially at crunch time of the season.

    I see Chandler as an important link, he is just not kicking to goal as he should although he has shown that he can be accurate early in the season.

    This could be proven correct.

    However, prior to going out he was (and still is) our highest goal kicker on averages and has yet to be given another block of games to prove whether he still has it in him or not.

    After being in the top two or three at Casey on Friday and playing out the entire game at a VG level, if he doesn't get picked this week then we may have seen the last of him at the highest level.

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    16 minutes ago, CHF said:

    Yep. you are right.... 8 tackles inside 50 in the last four and a total of 17 tackles in the same period.

    I like Chandler and think he has done well this season but I see him as out of form and I would prefer to see him gain form at Casey.

     

    So who are you replacing him with? Keeping in mind, the modern game is a slingshot affair that requires blokes that can bring lots of pressure and get the job down at ground level.


    9 minutes ago, A F said:

    So who are you replacing him with? Keeping in mind, the modern game is a slingshot affair that requires blokes that can bring lots of pressure and get the job down at ground level.

    Either Laurie or Jordon as I believe that we have to few rotations for the midfield.

     

    This is the team I would put out against GWS.

    B:     Bowey         May         Lever

    HB:   Salem         Petty/Tomlinson        McVee

    C:     Langdon     Viney       Hunter

    HF:   ANB            Petty/Brown    Pickett

    F:      Fritsch      Van Rooyen        Grundy

    R:      Gawn      Petracca       Sparrow

    Int:    Rivers       Laurie      Jordon     Brayshaw

    Sub:  Melksham

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    12 minutes ago, CHF said:

    Either Laurie or Jordon as I believe that we have to few rotations for the midfield.

     

    This is the team I would put out against GWS.

    B:     Bowey         May         Lever

    HB:   Salem         Petty/Tomlinson        McVee

    C:     Langdon     Viney       Hunter

    HF:   ANB            Petty/Brown    Pickett

    F:      Fritsch      Van Rooyen        Grundy

    R:      Gawn      Petracca       Sparrow

    Int:    Rivers       Laurie      Jordon     Brayshaw

    Sub:  Melksham

    I always thought Melksham was the perfect sub; but, for Casey last week I didn't see anything defensive from him. Despite his numbers I thought he was lazy and not what I would like to see in the firsts. For what it's worth I also thought Spargo looked frustrated and out of touch. Needs some time to regain composure.

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    I actually like Joel Smith for the sub. Can do a job forward or back, and in either scenario we have the flankers that can move into midfield if it's a midfielder getting subbed out. 

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    Neal Bullen has always fumbled even in 2021. 

    but he plays his role

    chance of being dropped?

    Zero

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    Unseasonably cold this Sunday in Alice Springs with temperatures ranging from a 1 degree minimum to a max of 11 degrees with some chance of rain.


    You don't risk playing your good players into being out of form. That's what we are doing with Petty forward for marginal gains.

    Set Petty to play CHB and forget. Like May at FB.

    McVee    May.    Lever

    Salem.    Petty.    Bowey

    Langford  Viney.  Hunter

    ANB.        JVR.      Picket

    Fritsch.     BBB.     Chandler

    Gawn Trac  Harmes

    Brayshaw. Rivers  Sparrow  Grundy

    Melksam/Smith

    Midfield rotations is the key, with Trac, Viney to play forward as part of this. Rivers play midfield. Harmes is defensive mid.

    Though If Dunstan is fit he plays instead of McVee and Rivers then goes to Greene

    1 hour ago, Ungarieboy said:

    You don't risk playing your good players into being out of form. That's what we are doing with Petty forward for marginal gains.

    Set Petty to play CHB and forget. Like May at FB.

    McVee    May.    Lever

    Salem.    Petty.    Bowey

    Langford  Viney.  Hunter

    ANB.        JVR.      Picket

    Fritsch.     BBB.     Chandler

    Gawn Trac  Harmes

    Brayshaw. Rivers  Sparrow  Grundy

    Melksam/Smith

    Midfield rotations is the key, with Trac, Viney to play forward as part of this. Rivers play midfield. Harmes is defensive mid.

    Though If Dunstan is fit he plays instead of McVee and Rivers then goes to Greene

    There is precisely 0% chance McVee is dropped.

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    9 hours ago, DubDee said:

    Neal Bullen has always fumbled even in 2021. 

    but he plays his role

    chance of being dropped?

    Zero

    I would say except for 2021

    On 6/25/2023 at 8:41 AM, picket fence said:

    Inns.. Clarrie (if fit), BBB, Bowser, Melksham

    Outs..Chandler, Spargo, Hibbo, JVR ( managed) 

    Possibly Thommo in as well, Nibbler extremely lucky if he stays in

    Re Spargo.

    It is only an out in cases where you were in.

    He was out against Geelong so, if he is out against GWS , he is not an out. However, if selected he will be an in.

    I trust that clears that up.

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    1 hour ago, Bystander said:

    Re Spargo.

    It is only an out in cases where you were in.

    He was out against Geelong so, if he is out against GWS , he is not an out. However, if selected he will be an in.

    I trust that clears that up.

    AOK SOO IN THROUGH THE OUT DOOR AND OUT THE SAME WAY!!


    12 minutes ago, picket fence said:

    AOK SOO IN THROUGH THE OUT DOOR AND OUT THE SAME WAY!!

    You've nailed it.

    i want some serious lineup experiments this week... gws off their bye so it may be our last chance to experiment until norf.

    hoping for jordon/spargs/hibberd/jvr/chandler out for reasons below and BBB/bowey/tomo/melksham/woewodin in

    jordon/spargs omitted, hibberd injured, jvr/chandler need rests, BBB in for jvr, petty up forward for chandler, bowey in for hibberd, tomo where petty was, woewodin for jordon and melksham sub

    big changes but i think we need them

    20 hours ago, CHF said:

    Either Laurie or Jordon as I believe that we have to few rotations for the midfield.

     

    This is the team I would put out against GWS.

    B:     Bowey         May         Lever

    HB:   Salem         Petty/Tomlinson        McVee

    C:     Langdon     Viney       Hunter

    HF:   ANB            Petty/Brown    Pickett

    F:      Fritsch      Van Rooyen        Grundy

    R:      Gawn      Petracca       Sparrow

    Int:    Rivers       Laurie      Jordon     Brayshaw

    Sub:  Melksham

    I'd swap Smith for Jordon and keep Petty at CHF and not play Brown as he doesn't work hard enough defensively

     

    Just for [censored] and giggles.

     

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