Admission of Tanking?

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,017]

22 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

The reason we were investigated was because Anderson was in charge while Demetriou was overseas. Notice Anderson didn't last too much longer after that. The AFL knows clubs tanked but don't want to admit it hence the investigations into Carlton went nowhere despite Libbas admissions (which he subsequently recanted - gee wonder why?)

If this was the case why does the club continue to use him as our defence lawyer?

Because he wrote some of the tribunal rules? 

Edited June 19, 2023 by YesitwasaWin4theAges

[Demonland 66,591]

8 minutes ago, Ugottobekidding said:

Any chance Freo can tank

No incentive 

[BAMF 3,812]

Brendan Favola also admitted that Carlton tanked. Nothing done.

I can also remember a story about Eddie McGuire saying on the footy show that the pies would be cheering for a loss when they got the priority pick for Daisy Thomas. I have never been able to verify that story though.

[Redleg 38,093]

8 hours ago, MT64 said:

I actually heard a story that the AFL increased our grant by $500k for us to pay them back. Unable to verify the story but my source was very bullish with their comments.

I heard something similar.

[Redleg 38,093]

4 hours ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

If this was the case why does the club continue to use him as our defence lawyer?

Because he wrote some of the tribunal rules? 

Do you think he is tanking his appearances for us?

He seems to have lost nearly appearance for the Dees at the Tribunal.

[beelzebub 22,373]

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

Do you think he is tanking his appearances for us?

He seems to have lost nearly appearance for the Dees at the Tribunal.

He is NOT our ally/friend. And he's fn useless.

Whoever is engaging him needs their head read. 

[Redleg 38,093]

51 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

He is NOT our ally/friend. And he's fn useless.

Whoever is engaging him needs their head read. 

Would guess it is Richardson.

[beelzebub 22,373]

57 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Would guess it is Richardson.

Needs talking too 😉

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,017]

6 hours ago, Redleg said:

Do you think he is tanking his appearances for us?

He seems to have lost nearly appearance for the Dees at the Tribunal.

Hasn't done us any favours in the past, don't understand why the club wouldn't know his history against us.

Absolutely baffling the club would continue with his services that are 💩🏠.

[layzie 29,783]

On 6/18/2023 at 12:31 PM, Dr. Gonzo said:

The reason we were investigated was because Anderson was in charge while Demetriou was overseas. Notice Anderson didn't last too much longer after that. The AFL knows clubs tanked but don't want to admit it hence the investigations into Carlton went nowhere despite Libbas admissions (which he subsequently recanted - gee wonder why?)

Unnecessary black mark on our history and made no sense right from the start. The misinformation this has spread throughout the league and opposition fans who like to remind you that ‘we got done for tanking’ is ridiculous. Not guilty of tanking but fined $500K, give me a spell. 

[Stiff Arm 4,415]

Given the AFL stuck their head in the sand over the Hawthorn racism accusations, there is a bazillion x zero chance they will get involved in another tanking drama. Their core business is to promote the game at all costs, regardless of right or wrong

[old55 21,699]

7 hours ago, layzie said:

Unnecessary black mark on our history and made no sense right from the start. The misinformation this has spread throughout the league and opposition fans who like to remind you that ‘we got done for tanking’ is ridiculous. Not guilty of tanking but fined $500K, give me a spell. 

Are you suggesting that we didn't tank? Give me a spell.

Edited June 20, 2023 by old55

[layzie 29,783]

1 hour ago, old55 said:

Are you suggesting that we didn't tank? Give me a spell.

Paraphrasing extordinaire Old55 is in the house! Good to have you on the show.

[Great Northern Summer 689]

On 6/18/2023 at 11:47 AM, Demon Disciple said:

To hell with that. We were fined 500k by the AFL. If they do nothing on this latest fiasco, they should give us that money back

We all know that money goes around in a circular direction. They may have 'fined' us, but they basically gave it back to us later in an annual distribution (which isn't the same for all clubs). It was all for theatre (i.e. to appear they were doing something).

[whatwhat say what 19,744]

3 hours ago, Glorious Day said:

We all know that money goes around in a circular direction. They may have 'fined' us, but they basically gave it back to us later in an annual distribution (which isn't the same for all clubs). It was all for theatre (i.e. to appear they were doing something).

didn't they fine us $500k and the next week give us close to $2m so that we could pay out coaching staff, hire pj, hire roos?

[layzie 29,783]

7 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

didn't they fine us $500k and the next week give us close to $2m so that we could pay out coaching staff, hire pj, hire roos?

That's right, the masters of the theatrical 'deal'.

Would be lucky to get a better deal at Eastside Mitsubishi.  

[daisycutter 28,700]

17 hours ago, old55 said:

Are you suggesting that we didn't tank? Give me a spell.

what are you talking about, old55? 😗there is no and has never been any tanking in the afl. Demetriou and mclachlan have made this clear on many occasions.

[DeeZone 7,981]

17 hours ago, old55 said:

Are you suggesting that we didn't tank? Give me a spell.

No more than Eagles, Hawks & Roos over the past couple of years, wouldn’t be surprised if Hawks received a rocket this year came good all of a sudden.!!!

[Dr. Gonzo 22,637]

On 6/20/2023 at 9:42 AM, layzie said:

Unnecessary black mark on our history and made no sense right from the start. The misinformation this has spread throughout the league and opposition fans who like to remind you that ‘we got done for tanking’ is ridiculous. Not guilty of tanking but fined $500K, give me a spell. 

Going back over old ground but the idea that tanking is bad is ridiculous in itself. The club would've been derelict in their duties not trying to do everything in their power to get the 1 and 2 picks in 2009 especially after being out-tanked by the Blues in 2007.

[Satan 2,786]

On 6/19/2023 at 12:43 PM, BAMF said:

Brendan Favola also admitted that Carlton tanked. Nothing done.

I can also remember a story about Eddie McGuire saying on the footy show that the pies would be cheering for a loss when they got the priority pick for Daisy Thomas. I have never been able to verify that story though.

Tony liberaratore made a comment on open mike About carlton tanking  next minute nothing

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/tony-liberatore-tells-fox-footys-open-mike-he-punched-matthew-knights-and-carlton-tanked-in-2007/news-story/c71952e9f443933886ddd53e6a6794a4

Edited June 21, 2023 by Satan

[Tony Tea 2,792]

We won the 2021 flag because of everything that happened back then

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,017]

On 6/20/2023 at 9:12 AM, layzie said:

Unnecessary black mark on our history and made no sense right from the start. The misinformation this has spread throughout the league and opposition fans who like to remind you that ‘we got done for tanking’ is ridiculous. Not guilty of tanking but fined $500K, give me a spell. 

Absolutely Laughable at what West Coast are currently doing?

[jnrmac 19,328]

On 6/18/2023 at 5:15 PM, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

Pretty sure Tony Liberatore admitted to Carlton tanking in an interview too - was never investigated. We were an easy target. He was an assistant coach at the time 

 

Libba on Open Mike: Liberatore said "he was interviewed by the AFL’s Rod Austin but learned through the newspapers the league would not follow up the tanking claims."

Rod Austin - ex Carlton player!!! You can't make up this stuff. Stinks. oh and an ex-Carlton player was Chief Commissioner of the AFL - Fitzpatrick!!

[layzie 29,783]

6 minutes ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

Absolutely Laughable at what West Coast are currently doing?

The thing that leaves a bad taste is that it was an 'almost' conviction. Not guilty of tanking related charges but Bailey and Connolly guilty of acting in a prejudicial manner to the interests of the competition. No loss of future draft picks which would have sent a strong message but a nicely wrapped fine which was subsequently given back to us. 

I don't doubt that we tanked and I'm not arguing that we didn't, but there's a photo of us in the dictionary under the definition of tanking when so many teams did it. They were just looked after. 

[Willmoy1947 3,814]

On 6/19/2023 at 4:43 PM, Redleg said:

Would guess it is Richardson.

As we get closer to the Finals hopefully this could become more and more relevant. I think we could issue a few smarten up SMS's