2023 Mid-Season All Australian Team

[Demonland 74,460]

[Jaded No More 68,976]

Seems right to me from Melbourne’s perspective 

May and Lever could get there in the second half if they get back to their best

[Willmoy1947 4,261]

Petracca Captain probably by unanimous player vote, but by Media and AFL vote Moore who is a bighead

[Lord Travis 10,819]

14 minutes ago, Willmoy1947 said:

Petracca Captain probably by unanimous player vote, but by Media and AFL vote Moore who is a bighead

Love Trac, but Moore is captain of the team on top of the ladder. He’s definitely the logical and worthy captain for the AA team at this stage.

[Lil_red_fire_engine 11,387]

Pretty reasonable side. Only player inclusion I question is  Neales inclusion. That as well as the traditional lack of respect that wing is a specialist role and not just the place you extend the centre square mids you want to include to avoid tough decisions. 

[old55 23,864]

10 minutes ago, Lil_red_fire_engine said:

Pretty reasonable side. Only player inclusion I question is  Neales inclusion. That as well as the traditional lack of respect that wing is a specialist role and not just the place you extend the centre square mids you want to include to avoid tough decisions. 

And HF as well

[Bitter but optimistic 22,289]

Curnow didn't look very "All Australian" last night.

[Demonland 74,460]

2 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Curnow didn't look very "All Australian" last night.

Hard to under a May blanket

[The heart beats true 18,201]

I’d say Toby Greene as caption, judging by last years criteria - which was clearly to pick a captain that annoyed as many people as possible.

[Bang Bang Bang 5,875]

Trac and Clarry will be locks for the next few years. It's disappointing that nobody else has really put their hand up so far - Gawn, Salem, May, Lever, Fritsch, Pickett and Langdon were all in the conversation this time two years ago. That could potentially be a good thing in the back half of the year. Lots of very good players who can lift. 

Edited June 3, 2023 by Bang Bang Bang

[layzie 34,528]

That's about right. Two key forwards, didn't pull the Hawkins lever. I'm good with it. 

[YearOfTheDees 3,266]

Robbo had a go at this in today Hun. Could not find a spot for Oliver. 

[MrFreeze 2,055]

On 6/3/2023 at 11:51 AM, old55 said:

And HF as well

and half back, Jordan Dawson is a 247 inside mid imo. Not a HB flanker. 

[poita 3,945]

ESPN's 2023 (slightly early) mid-year All-Australian team:

FB: Ballard, Wilkie, Sicily
HB: Sinclair, Moore (c), N. Daicos
C: Dawson, Liberatore, Butters
HF: Petracca, C. Curnow, Greene
FF: Daniher, J. Cameron, C. Cameron
R: English, Oliver, Bontempelli
I/C: Darcy, De Goey, Neale, Anderson, Serong

[poita 3,945]

 

Robbo's All Australian Team

B: Charlie Ballard, Harris Andrews, Tom Stewart

HB: Nick Daicos, Darcy Moore, Jack Sinclair

C: Josh Daicos, Marcus Bontempelli, Nic Martin

HF: Jordan De Goey, Jeremy Cameron, Toby Greene

F: Charlie Cameron, Charlie Curnow, Brody Mihocek

Foll: Tim English, Christian Petracca, Zak Butters

Interchange: Lachie Neale, James Sicily, Zach Merrett, Jordan Dawson

[Willmoy1947 4,261]

The only reason Moore is in this side at all is because Petty went to the Forward line and Moore's old man demanded it.

A good tough mobile CHF would murder him. We have two at the moment coming up.

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

I’d love to see a stats based AA side that removes all ambiguity and bias.

1. most goals  + contested marks inside 50 = FF

2. most effective hit outs + clearances  + contested marks  + score involvements = Ruck

3. # Disposals + contested possessions + clearances + pressure acts = Rover

etc.

This can all be weighted based on opponents  played and other factors that give a more rounded assessment as opposed to Pies getting 5 players because they are on top. 

I think it’ll throw up some interesting results and we are likely to recognise a broader range of players and just favourites if the media (which make up most of the AA selection panel)  

[Bobby McKenzie 2,408]

10 hours ago, poita said:

 

Robbo's All Australian Team

B: Charlie Ballard, Harris Andrews, Tom Stewart

HB: Nick Daicos, Darcy Moore, Jack Sinclair

C: Josh Daicos, Marcus Bontempelli, Nic Martin

HF: Jordan De Goey, Jeremy Cameron, Toby Greene

F: Charlie Cameron, Charlie Curnow, Brody Mihocek

Foll: Tim English, Christian Petracca, Zak Butters

Interchange: Lachie Neale, James Sicily, Zach Merrett, Jordan Dawson

 

[Bobby McKenzie 2,408]

Lloyd and Robbo leaving Oliver out  is surprising given the form of Clarry and the fact that he is equal 6th to win the Brownlow. He is having another fine season. We will see how the final and official AA team ends up. 

[The Jackson FIX 3,512]

On 6/3/2023 at 12:14 PM, The heart beats true said:

I’d say Toby Greene as caption, judging by last years criteria - which was clearly to pick a captain that annoyed as many people as possible.

Also ticks the required box to have ‘beaten someone up with a crutch at Zagames’ before

[beelzebub 23,392]

Nic ..yes.. Josh ??   really ??

All a bit of fluff really...   imo 

[layzie 34,528]

7 hours ago, Bobby McKenzie said:

Lloyd and Robbo leaving Oliver out  is surprising given the form of Clarry and the fact that he is equal 6th to win the Brownlow. He is having another fine season. We will see how the final and official AA team ends up. 

I'd be leaving Serong out if anyone was the be left out. Has been getting a lot of it all season but it's only the last month he's really been doing anything with it and hurting opposition. He can be a bit of a crab handballing and kicking sideways often. 

[MrFreeze 2,055]

14 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

I’d love to see a stats based AA side that removes all ambiguity and bias.

1. most goals  + contested marks inside 50 = FF

2. most effective hit outs + clearances  + contested marks  + score involvements = Ruck

3. # Disposals + contested possessions + clearances + pressure acts = Rover

etc.

This can all be weighted based on opponents  played and other factors that give a more rounded assessment as opposed to Pies getting 5 players because they are on top. 

I think it’ll throw up some interesting results and we are likely to recognise a broader range of players and just favourites if the media (which make up most of the AA selection panel)  

All that would be is Champion data picked AA teams, how lifeless. 

[Turner 1,516]

Turners Mid Season AA Side

FB Wilkie Moore (vc) Docherty

HB NDaicos Sicily Sinclair

C Dawson Oliver Serong

HF Petracca JCameron Rozee

FF CCameron CCurnow Greene

R English Bontempelli (c) Butters

INT Neale Merrett Taranto Liberatore

Edited June 6, 2023 by Turner

[whatwhat say what 23,875]

mine...

B: Cal Wilkie - Darcy Moore (C) - Charlie Ballard
HB: Nick Daicos - Harris Andrews - Jack Sinclair
C: Josh Daicos - Christian Petracca - Nic Martin
HF: Jordan de Goey - Jeremy Cameron - Connor Rozee
F: Brody Mihocek - Charlie Curnow - Charlie Cameron
Foll: Tim English - Marcus Bontempelli (VC) - Zac Butters
I/c: Scott Pendlebury - Joe Daniher - Zac Merrett - Clayton Oliver