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6 hours ago, Redleg said:

You have obviously never heard or seen the Doobie Brothers, who are the greatest band ever. Steely Dan the best studio band ever.

Getting back to the thread, I would love a smashing of Carlton and see the in fighting start in earnest.

Both were up there for sure.

Steely still in very high demand.  Recently listed their Ozzy 1977 'AJA' Vinyl LP on eBay which had 5 different bidders.

Condition was ok but not all that great either (clearly described as such) but it still went off!

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19 hours ago, Redleg said:

I am 71, have loved the game and especially the MFC, since I was about 5 and I am now at the stage, where I only want to go to games, to be with my kids and grandkids.

I detest what I see happening to the game, which is run imo purely for money.

People are ripped off at every turn by the AFL.  AFL members are forced to pay $10.00 on top of membership for a seat at the G, for many games, instead of just being allowed to walk up.

The fixturing is completely unfair and of its own, makes the whole competition a compromised sport.

The umpiring is inconsistent.

The MRO and Tribunal are a joke.

The media because of accreditation are sycophants, too scared to report honestly.

Everything is a deal, or fixed by a deal.

Players now are unsure how to play the game and as an example, against Freo, I watched Melbourne players actually hesitate before going for the ball or tackling.

Games being played on school nights, so families are denied the ability of attending.

Blasting music so loud you can’t talk to people next to you.

Excessive Politicising of the game.

My love of the game has been severely diminished by its administrators, who couldn't run a BBQ without giving everyone food poisoning.

I detest the direction of the game, that these people have taken it in and I am not referring to efforts to make it safer.

Yes they have improved the viewing facilities, with some new grounds and refurbishments, but they have imo achieved little else.

At least I have my memories of hard, tough,skillful footy, umpired reasonably, with penalties at Tribunals that were pretty consistent and people loving the game and actually living for it.

I nominate this as the BEST POST OF THE YEAR!!!!!

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7 minutes ago, old dee said:

I will second that.

And me. The AFL has no faith in its product  so they keep trying to “improve” it; most steps are backwards. I mean, really: why can’t we have peace during the breaks so you can discuss the game with your companion?

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4 minutes ago, Ollie fan said:

And me. The AFL has no faith in its product  so they keep trying to “improve” it; most steps are backwards. I mean, really: why can’t we have peace during the breaks so you can discuss the game with your companion?

No you want to hear average music turned up on average speakers. Ahhhh, the serenity 

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2 hours ago, D Rev said:

Am assuming that May will go to McKay, which may be a waste, but will make sure that he doesn't get off the chain / break loose.

The question then is who goes to Curnow?  I don't think Lever can go with him athletically, so maybe Hibbo?  Gives up height, but can run and has enough strength to compete?

Im not too worried about their midfield, I think we have the advantage there, particularly with our rucks.

The big issue will be our forwards; we should be able to create more space for targets, but can they take marks and convert, or will it be back to the backyard sprinkler?

Curnow is a very tricky one - my thoughts are to play May on him. Charlie is an overhead and  man on man beast and I feel May has the spoil,aggression and overhead capacity to at least challenge him. I'd bring Thommo back to sit McKay, send Spargo or Chandler back to Casey and move Bowey to half forward. - the bloke can kick straight Lever can float as is his best role. Fair chance it's going to be slippery, so lots of ground ball for our smaller forwards who ought be under strict instructions to leave the overhead work to Tmac,JVR and Fritta. Gawn and Reg Grundy to drift back behind the play and  bolster defence.

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20 hours ago, Redleg said:

I am 71, have loved the game and especially the MFC, since I was about 5 and I am now at the stage, where I only want to go to games, to be with my kids and grandkids.

I detest what I see happening to the game, which is run imo purely for money.

People are ripped off at every turn by the AFL.  AFL members are forced to pay $10.00 on top of membership for a seat at the G, for many games, instead of just being allowed to walk up.

The fixturing is completely unfair and of its own, makes the whole competition a compromised sport.

The umpiring is inconsistent.

The MRO and Tribunal are a joke.

The media because of accreditation are sycophants, too scared to report honestly.

Everything is a deal, or fixed by a deal.

Players now are unsure how to play the game and as an example, against Freo, I watched Melbourne players actually hesitate before going for the ball or tackling.

Games being played on school nights, so families are denied the ability of attending.

Blasting music so loud you can’t talk to people next to you.

Excessive Politicising of the game.

My love of the game has been severely diminished by its administrators, who couldn't run a BBQ without giving everyone food poisoning.

I detest the direction of the game, that these people have taken it in and I am not referring to efforts to make it safer.

Yes they have improved the viewing facilities, with some new grounds and refurbishments, but they have imo achieved little else.

At least I have my memories of hard, tough,skillful footy, umpired reasonably, with penalties at Tribunals that were pretty consistent and people loving the game and actually living for it.

My thoughts exactly Mr. Leg

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20 hours ago, Redleg said:

I am 71, have loved the game and especially the MFC, since I was about 5 and I am now at the stage, where I only want to go to games, to be with my kids and grandkids.

I detest what I see happening to the game, which is run imo purely for money.

People are ripped off at every turn by the AFL.  AFL members are forced to pay $10.00 on top of membership for a seat at the G, for many games, instead of just being allowed to walk up.

The fixturing is completely unfair and of its own, makes the whole competition a compromised sport.

The umpiring is inconsistent.

The MRO and Tribunal are a joke.

The media because of accreditation are sycophants, too scared to report honestly.

Everything is a deal, or fixed by a deal.

Players now are unsure how to play the game and as an example, against Freo, I watched Melbourne players actually hesitate before going for the ball or tackling.

Games being played on school nights, so families are denied the ability of attending.

Blasting music so loud you can’t talk to people next to you.

Excessive Politicising of the game.

My love of the game has been severely diminished by its administrators, who couldn't run a BBQ without giving everyone food poisoning.

I detest the direction of the game, that these people have taken it in and I am not referring to efforts to make it safer.

Yes they have improved the viewing facilities, with some new grounds and refurbishments, but they have imo achieved little else.

At least I have my memories of hard, tough,skillful footy, umpired reasonably, with penalties at Tribunals that were pretty consistent and people loving the game and actually living for it.

Can you add gambling to the list?

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54 minutes ago, Diamond Tim said:

Curnow is a very tricky one - my thoughts are to play May on him. Charlie is an overhead and  man on man beast and I feel May has the spoil,aggression and overhead capacity to at least challenge him.

She'll be right mate.  Maysie will push Curnow off the drop off the ball before the umpires are watching.

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20 hours ago, Redleg said:

I am 71, have loved the game and especially the MFC, since I was about 5 and I am now at the stage, where I only want to go to games, to be with my kids and grandkids.

I detest what I see happening to the game, which is run imo purely for money.

People are ripped off at every turn by the AFL.  AFL members are forced to pay $10.00 on top of membership for a seat at the G, for many games, instead of just being allowed to walk up.

The fixturing is completely unfair and of its own, makes the whole competition a compromised sport.

The umpiring is inconsistent.

The MRO and Tribunal are a joke.

The media because of accreditation are sycophants, too scared to report honestly.

Everything is a deal, or fixed by a deal.

Players now are unsure how to play the game and as an example, against Freo, I watched Melbourne players actually hesitate before going for the ball or tackling.

Games being played on school nights, so families are denied the ability of attending.

Blasting music so loud you can’t talk to people next to you.

Excessive Politicising of the game.

My love of the game has been severely diminished by its administrators, who couldn't run a BBQ without giving everyone food poisoning.

I detest the direction of the game, that these people have taken it in and I am not referring to efforts to make it safer.

Yes they have improved the viewing facilities, with some new grounds and refurbishments, but they have imo achieved little else.

At least I have my memories of hard, tough,skillful footy, umpired reasonably, with penalties at Tribunals that were pretty consistent and people loving the game and actually living for it.

Yeah the whole afl is depressing. The emperor has no clothes, the afl say black is white and nobody calls them out.

says a lot that Craig Hutchinson now has power and influence over afl decisions, far in excess of his capacity for a thoughtful contribution.

After hearing the Cerra outcome and the contents of the buried press conference last night, I’m feeling more and more like the fool.

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8 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

I’m loath to mention that lest I be berated for derailing the thread. But since you asked nicely, an Icelandic band called Sigur Rós. The best band ever there was since the dawning of mankind and even a couple of aeons before that. 😁

I am very glad Lagwagon are playing in Bris the night before my bday this year and I don’t have to miss a game because sorry Dees, the neighbours will be stoooooked

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Carlton will be up and about this week, after the blowtorch being applied to them. And I think they will win. Unless the following can happen:

Petracca can have another 40 possession game and kick a few

Max can start dominating around the ground and forward when he goes there

Lever can be that intercept beast that we once knew

Pickett can play four quarters, instead of four minutes

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Here's one thing I'd love to see. 

Players to keep their feet. 

May to keep his feet when the ball is on the ground in dispute. 

Is that too much to ask? 

I've never seen a big guy flop on the ground as often as him and he has allowed countless goals eventuate because of this. 

Would also like our captain to keep his feet more often instead of dropping to the ground playing for frees. Sure he gets whacked etc but I'd much rather he just keep playing ball and let the frees come when they come. 

 

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4 hours ago, Winners at last said:

*Isn't it ironic that the word 'phonetic' is not spelt phonetically? It should be spelt 'fonetic' ? 

Too much information perhaps but "p" run into "f" does sound a bit like "f".  It was the best that the ancient Greeks could do a couple of thousand years ago last Tuesday, when the "f" sound came back into use in their language.  The dedicated letter of diagamma had disappeared due to lack of use.  Phono-etc words come from the Greek words φωνή (phonē, 'sound' or 'voice').  Hence the odd spelling.

Similarly, the naughty frenchies spelled the Anglo-Saxon "ch" sound as "tch"  i.e. catch, hatch. They ran together the "t" sound with the "sh" sound that they rendered as "ch" e.g. chalet, mon petit chou.

 

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19 minutes ago, JimmyGadson said:

Here's one thing I'd love to see. 

Players to keep their feet. 

May to keep his feet when the ball is on the ground in dispute. 

Is that too much to ask? 

I've never seen a big guy flop on the ground as often as him and he has allowed countless goals eventuate because of this. 

Would also like our captain to keep his feet more often instead of dropping to the ground playing for frees. Sure he gets whacked etc but I'd much rather he just keep playing ball and let the frees come when they come. 

 

Seems there's a simple formula in operation. 

May + Lever  less capable 3rd = Struggle Street

May +Lever+ Petty...  =sweet

May works much better when he can seemingly bark the ideas...as does Lever...  but they need the "polishers" to make it look truly pretty.

Salem and Petty do this well.   Salem was ( in that Big Dance that mattered) the 'pilot' of the back 50. He's been missed ( imho )

Salem makes much better decisions coming out of defence.

I believe  Lever and May like having the cool calm Salem to sweep the ball into rebound.

I think May is unsettled without that 3rd and 4th wheel.

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22 minutes ago, redandbluemakepurple said:

Too much information perhaps but "p" run into "f" does sound a bit like "f".  It was the best that the ancient Greeks could do a couple of thousand years ago last Tuesday, when the "f" sound came back into use in their language.  The dedicated letter of diagamma had disappeared due to lack of use.  Phono-etc words come from the Greek words φωνή (phonē, 'sound' or 'voice').  Hence the odd spelling.

Similarly, the naughty frenchies spelled the Anglo-Saxon "ch" sound as "tch"  i.e. catch, hatch. They ran together the "t" sound with the "sh" sound that they rendered as "ch" e.g. chalet, mon petit chou.

 

What we understand as Phonetics...is modern Phonetics..  kinda came into play early 19th century..   a little late for the Greeks to be worried.  

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2 hours ago, beelzebub said:

What we understand as Phonetics...is modern Phonetics..  kinda came into play early 19th century..   a little late for the Greeks to be worried.  

I imagine that the Ancient Greeks did not give a stuff, with Constantinople having fallen on April 29, 1453.  (Yes, desperate but certainly not dateless).   

However, the educated class in the 19th Century, was mad for Ancient Greek (as well as Latin).  They coined new words based on the Ancient Greek language, e.g. phonogram, telephone, phoneme, saxophone. 

The alternative explanation that those were just the letters that came out of the scrabble bag, seems rather far-fetched.

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