POSTGAME: Rd 11 vs Walyalup

[buck_nekkid 5,553]

We reverted to a lot of ‘bad’ habits in the game.  Like forwards leading into the pockets.  Like kicking it onto the heads of out big forwards.

We were outnumbered at most stoppages (i counted +1 to Freo several times) and only once did I see our players really get on the move to maximise the tap.

These dinky handball chains with lots of underground handballs is not pretty, and is often a turnover source.

we had almost no overlap run and avoided the corridor like it had herpes.

Some good marking by Max and May. However support around them seemed weak.  If they missed these grabs, Freo had easy outs.

Goody talked about efficiency.  I see effort but a lack of cohesion.  Spargo cost us 3 goals by being selfish, and the simple shots missed cost us dearly.

End of the world? No.  Worrying? Yes

[loges 6,238]

11 hours ago, Roost it far said:

Every other team knows that we can’t take unrelenting pressure. We crack and our leader falls over under said pressure

Like most sides 

[dees189227 11,016]

13 hours ago, SPC said:

Not sure if it has been mentioned, cause I haven’t read every post.. but how bad was JVR taking a mark 45 out and Petracca pleading to him to pass it as we had players free forward and he wouldn’t turn around.. then proceeded to kick a point. Die by the sword.

I was screaming to pass it to Brodie. He was literally on his own with not one Freo player around him. I hope that's something that gets pointed out

[leave it to deever 16,172]

Just watched a some " highlights".

That free to Amiss against May in the first was one of the worst decisions I have seen this year . And I've seen a few. Fgs, Maysie was standing still, Amiss jumps on his back way too  early and somehow he gets the free.

It's like the umps are making it up as they go along sometimes. 

[Jaded No More 59,110]

1 minute ago, leave it to deever said:

Just watched a some " highlights".

That free to Amiss against May in the first was one of the worst decisions I have seen this year . And I've seen a few. Fgs, Maysie was standing still, Amiss jumps on his back way too  early and somehow he gets the free.

It's like the umps are making it up as they go along sometimes. 

I watched GC last night get throughly destroyed by the umpires. They still won. 

Yes the umpires were putrid, absolutely terrible. 
 

Welcome to every game in 2023. 

[layzie 29,758]

25 minutes ago, buck_nekkid said:

We reverted to a lot of ‘bad’ habits in the game.  Like forwards leading into the pockets.  Like kicking it onto the heads of out big forwards.

We were outnumbered at most stoppages (i counted +1 to Freo several times) and only once did I see our players really get on the move to maximise the tap.

These dinky handball chains with lots of underground handballs is not pretty, and is often a turnover source.

we had almost no overlap run and avoided the corridor like it had herpes.

Some good marking by Max and May. However support around them seemed weak.  If they missed these grabs, Freo had easy outs.

Goody talked about efficiency.  I see effort but a lack of cohesion.  Spargo cost us 3 goals by being selfish, and the simple shots missed cost us dearly.

End of the world? No.  Worrying? Yes

I agree we did get outnumbered at stoppage but looking at the stats we've beaten them in contested ball 157 to 141 and pretty much matched them in clearances. This is without our Mr contested possession Clarence of Oliver.

Something is not adding up, either it's a massive credit to our midfield unit for achieving those numbers without Clarry or we are doing gumball all when we get possession and our execution is to blame. Or both (yeah actually both)

 

[waynewussell 4,125]

I went yesterday.

Things I liked...

Kozzie's miracle

Salem showing strong signs that he is back

Fritta, not only maintaining brilliance with snap shots, but the one forward who spotted up loose teammates with bullet passes

Max treating Darcy and Jackson with disdain in the first

Sparrow kicking another clutch set shot

Langdon's ball carry & run in second half

Petracca 600+ metres gained

Brayshaw 500 metres gained (yes, more than his brother)

Grundy 320 metres gained (yes, more than Jackson)

Edited May 28, 2023 by waynewussell

[Dr. Gonzo 22,626]

13 hours ago, Redleg said:

Well as bad as some say we are, would you agree that if we kicked straight we would have won.

That is what in many respects makes it so infuriating.

And if Port kicked straight we get belted last week.

Even if we had have fallen over the line due to kicking straight it wouldn't change much. Falling over the line against a middle of the road (at best) interstate team on your home deck - I feel were just making up the numbers this year.

It's not about the results it's about how we're playing.

[Demonsone 1,666]

Including our straight finals exit in 2022 we have beaten 1 current top 8 team (dogs) in 13 games.  
Who’s fault is this Goody game plan picked apart or players/ culture drop off after climbing the mountain in 21???

Edited May 28, 2023 by Demonsone

[dazzledavey36 49,334]

Anyone know what the Gawn spray was directed at during the 3 qtr time break?

Was completely out of character..

[layzie 29,758]

27 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

I was screaming to pass it to Brodie. He was literally on his own with not one Freo player around him. I hope that's something that gets pointed out

Never ever walk back after a mark with your back to goal, one of the biggest cardinal sins in football.

[loges 6,238]

3 hours ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Genuine leg speed and an array of very pleasing reliabilities around goal. Capable of giving and taking a knock, too. Imagine his development now, had he been given the opportunities of rapidly tiring others - in operation with Clarrie, Tracca, Gawndy, Rivers, Fritta, JJ and Sparrow (the latter should be groomed as the mobile CHF lynchpin).

Bedford only played well in games where we were well on top. In harder more pressured games he was hardly sighted.

[Earl Hood 5,821]

11 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Serious? We were on the southern wing as always and bemoaned the fact they constantly play the members wing so we can't see anything.

Interesting. If you look at our heat map in the AFL map it clearly shows a concentration of play to one side for 3 quarters. Assuming the map is oriented so north is up then the majority of play is on the south side. But I could be reading the map wrong. 

[Fidelista 39]

17 hours ago, Sydee said:

Narrm aren’t much chop I’m afraid 

You do realise Narrm has the exact same paying kist as the Melbourne football club. 

[beelzebub 22,324]

1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

...........

It's not about the results it's about how we're playing.

Im reminded by this thought when looking at market trends etc.   Its seldom whats happening on the surface....though that is what you see and is often the relevant S.P. etc..   it's what's causing it...  the ebbs, the flows,  the depth to bids/offers... the volumes etc.  They create the substructure upon which it all revolves/evolves.

So too in a sense a game of footy.  Much about a game can be causal and that happens before the ball is bounced.

In market parlance ....we're trending down... we'd be a "sell" 

[beelzebub 22,324]

4 minutes ago, layzie said:

Never ever walk back after a mark with your back to goal, one of the biggest cardinal sins in football.

Unless you're 30m out directly in front...a strong maybe then...    but otherwise...agree 

[John Demonic 4,876]

Just now, beelzebub said:

Unless you're 30m out directly in front...a strong maybe then...    but otherwise...agree 

Unless you're Spargo from 30 out, then you should be looking for leads 

[beelzebub 22,324]

2 hours ago, adonski said:

We run like we're stuck in mud

Certainly stuck in 2021......

[Roost it far 6,240]

12 hours ago, A F said:

No team can take unrelenting pressure. There is nothing insightful about that as a take mate. That's essentially how you win any team sport and certainly AFL football...

Sure, but every time we come up against it by a lesser side such as Freo we should be able to withstand it and beat them. We don’t, we roll over and die, starting with Gawn. 

[titan_uranus 22,753]

1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

And if Port kicked straight we get belted last week.

Even if we had have fallen over the line due to kicking straight it wouldn't change much. Falling over the line against a middle of the road (at best) interstate team on your home deck - I feel were just making up the numbers this year.

It's not about the results it's about how we're playing.

This is still something I think is a massive problem with our supporter base. 

Too many on here have their expectations so high - it seems you expect us to not just beat, but dominate, all sides except, what, Collingwood, Brisbane and Port?

It doesn’t work like that. It never has. 

It’s a separate issue altogether to discuss the parts of our game that aren’t working but defining failure as small wins over mid-table sides sets you up for a season of disappointment. 

[waynewussell 4,125]

Some perspective on Goodwin's coaching and team performance 2021 -2023

MFC in top four 55 out of 57 rounds

MFC top of the ladder on 24 of those rounds

[Demonsone 1,666]

1 minute ago, waynewussell said:

Some perspective on Goodwin's coaching and team performance 2021 -2023

MFC in top four 55 out of 57 rounds

MFC top of the ladder on 24 of those rounds

Reality we have beaten 1 team in the current top 8 the dogs since our straight sets exit in the 2022  finals! It’s either our players have dropped off or Goodys game plan has been worked out! 

[waynewussell 4,125]

More perspective

After 11 rounds in 2022 Geelong had 7 wins, 4 losses and a percentage of 128.

[Sydee 3,668]

28 minutes ago, Fidelista said:

You do realise Narrm has the exact same paying kist as the Melbourne football club. 

And yet they can't beat anyone bar a rabble in Norf ? go figure 

[jnrmac 19,323]

Let's hope thats the end of that jumper and the God-awful song.

Its like a new curse we have brought on ourselves. Whats our record? 2 wins 6 games?