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PREGAME: Rd 11 vs Walyalup

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1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

His time on ground is substantial but even when TMac is not playing at Casey they have to give forward time to Joel Smith and Jefferson. My guess is that it's between 70 and 80%

70s is Low TOG for key position players.  So id say they are managing him and he may even have a week off at some stage

 
2 hours ago, binman said:

We beat the dogs in round one by 50 points.

Narrative - maybe the dogs are not contenders this year, asterix on that win.

Dogs get beaten the next week by the Saints, who at that point are tipped to finish bottom 3 by many, and certainly not considered the serious finals contender they are now.

Narrative - the dogs are struggling, are not a top 8 team, double asterix on the dees round win.

Round 3 the dogs beat now top of the table Lions, but at that point their round one drubbing by Port still has pundits questioning where they are at, their victory of the dees notwithstanding.

Narrative: the double asterix remains on the dees round one win

Cut to round 10 and the dogs smashes a team in the top 8, everyone's favorite bolter, the crows, for their 5th win on end, and cement their spot in the top 8 on the same number of wins as us (albeit with 30% less percentage - a massive number for two teams on equal wins). Pundits are starting to wake up to the fact that the dogs are a serious team.

Narrative - the double asterix remains on the dees round one win because it is too long ago for the media fishbowl to compute.

 

When we beat Sydney Round 3 and at that time they were at full strength and considered contenders

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    15 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

    When we beat Sydney Round 3 and at that time they were at full strength and considered contenders

    And yet at the time were 2-0 and still playing with a full squad AND many pundits had top 4.. They mention we may have got the Dogs at a good time, but fail to mention we go the Swans at a bad time (for us) and ran the game out 50 pts winners... didnt fit the narrative = doesnt get mentioned. 

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    The pundits and naysayers really do forget that these teams like Sydney and the Bulldogs are/were struggling because we contributed to their loss column. Chicken and egg argument. 

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    4 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

    And yet at the time were 2-0 and still playing with a full squad AND many pundits had top 4.. They mention we may have got the Dogs at a good time, but fail to mention we go the Swans at a bad time (for us) and ran the game out 50 pts winners... didnt fit the narrative = doesnt get mentioned. 

    The pundits were saying the Dogs' 4 pronged tall attack would rip us to shreds.

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    12 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

    When we beat Sydney Round 3 and at that time they were at full strength and considered contenders

    Yep. in fact, that win is probably a better example than the dogs win for the point i'm trying to make.

    The Swans game is swept up the narrative that the dees haven't beaten anyone, eg 'who have the dees beaten - the dogs, who were poor, the swans who are big sliders, the tigers who are 14th, the underachieving Suns and competition easy beats, the Hawks, Roos and Eagles' blah blah blah.

    When in reality, the Swans and Dogs wins were both impressive and the Tiger's and the Suns brought serious pressure and heat, played super well and our performance in those games was also very impressive. Even the Hawks and Eagles brought heat.

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    On 5/24/2023 at 9:29 AM, A F said:

    That's not really what David King means though. We backed our players to get the job done. 

    As I've said elsewhere, Butters had 8 possessions in the last quarter, 4 of them were ineffective. We led at the 3/4 time break by effectively 2 goals, after playing 1 quarter. 

    It's this sort of over simplistic analysis that is the very reason many find King to be a nuff nuff.

    Really.  A game is 120 Minutes and Butters damage in the first 3 quarters meant he could put the cue away a bit. He prevented us prospering further as did his mate Rozee.

    Who drove the Power to grab a sizeable lead in the second 1/4.  ?

    It IS a simple game as Alan Jeans remarked.  I guess he knew what he was talking about?

    King's quote, and not original, emanated from NBA coach Brett Brown's theory.  Probably where Kingy pinched it from.

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    Fremantle coach Justin Longmuir reckons he has the best ruck combination in the AFL with Fremantle sitting No.1 in both hitouts (52 per game) and hitouts to advantage (15 per game) this season

     

    I am hopeful Max and Grundy read his comments. All duck no dinner!

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    6 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

    Fremantle coach Justin Longmuir reckons he has the best ruck combination in the AFL with Fremantle sitting No.1 in both hitouts (52 per game) and hitouts to advantage (15 per game) this season

     

    I am hopeful Max and Grundy read his comments. All duck no dinner!

    We do seem to be blind to a lot of our shortcomings . 

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    19 minutes ago, Demon17 said:

    Really.  A game is 120 Minutes and Butters damage in the first 3 quarters meant he could put the cue away a bit. He prevented us prospering further as did his mate Rozee.

    Who drove the Power to grab a sizeable lead in the second 1/4.  ?

    It IS a simple game as Alan Jeans remarked.  I guess he knew what he was talking about?

    King's quote, and not original, emanated from NBA coach Brett Brown's theory.  Probably where Kingy pinched it from.

    The first three quarters are irrelevant given we were ahead at three quarter time...

    25 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

    Fremantle coach Justin Longmuir reckons he has the best ruck combination in the AFL with Fremantle sitting No.1 in both hitouts (52 per game) and hitouts to advantage (15 per game) this season

     

    I am hopeful Max and Grundy read his comments. All duck no dinner!

    Well, I'd like to think they have plenty of motivation to perform well without this prod but I do hope it stings them a little bit

    Great chance to make a statement - I haven't forgotten last years performance vs Flogmantle love the tables to be turned.

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    51 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

    Fremantle coach Justin Longmuir reckons he has the best ruck combination in the AFL with Fremantle sitting No.1 in both hitouts (52 per game) and hitouts to advantage (15 per game) this season

     

    I am hopeful Max and Grundy read his comments. All duck no dinner!

    He makes pretty good case to be honest (noting that Maxy missed three games, so those numbers are a little misleading).

    Darcy is a fantastic ruck. 

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    Find it hard to see us winning this game. No Oliver and tall forwards that cannot get a kick in  football factory. It grieves me to say it but the guy who went home to mum has started to show some ability. He will be busting to play well against us. The last two weeks we have been carrying Chandler and Spargo needs to fire up he did little last week of note. At present I just see too many players playing well below their best. 

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    2 minutes ago, old dee said:

    Find it hard to see us winning this game. No Oliver and tall forwards that cannot get a kick in  football factory. It grieves me to say it but the guy who went home to mum has started to show some ability. He will be busting to play well against us. The last two weeks we have been carrying Chandler and Spargo needs to fire up he did little last week of note. 

    Its tempting to roll out the old cliche but to treat this gane with anything shy of trepidation may result in gross disappointment. 

    Going back to this notion of trust...   Im sorry,  ive very little trust in out brand.   Blokes yes, game... no.

    Can we win ....yes

    Could we lose.... yes...

    Lose this and its a very slippery slope.... and we'll have little adhesion. 

    Go Dees 

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    3 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

    Tomorrow morning in Fed Square a group of us DA members will be packing parcels of dry goods to be sent to disaster zones, namely Ukraine, Syria and Turkey. The aim is to have 100,000 boxes packed in one day. This has nothing to do with footy; the organisers contacted Sophie, one of our leaders, because it’s well known in ‘charity circles’ that when it comes to volunteering the DA will always help. This is not an indulgent trumpet-blowing sesh, just wanted y’all to know that you happen to barrack for a team whose cheer squad is THE BEST. Okay, a little bit of trumpet blowing there. 🤭

    Good on ya WCW

    Good to see the umpire that paid holding the ball on TMac instead of the dangerous tackle has been punished.

    Yep, sure enough, he's been given our game again this week.

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    4 minutes ago, BigBadBustling said:

    Good to see the umpire that paid holding the ball on TMac instead of the dangerous tackle has been punished.

    Yep, sure enough, he's been given our game again this week.

    Maybe he will award Tmac extra frees this week to say sorry.... yeah right!

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    9 minutes ago, BigBadBustling said:

    Good to see the umpire that paid holding the ball on TMac instead of the dangerous tackle has been punished.

    Yep, sure enough, he's been given our game again this week.

    Just adds ammo to a conspiracy 

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    5 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

    Tomorrow morning in Fed Square a group of us DA members will be packing parcels of dry goods to be sent to disaster zones, namely Ukraine, Syria and Turkey. The aim is to have 100,000 boxes packed in one day. This has nothing to do with footy; the organisers contacted Sophie, one of our leaders, because it’s well known in ‘charity circles’ that when it comes to volunteering the DA will always help. This is not an indulgent trumpet-blowing sesh, just wanted y’all to know that you happen to barrack for a team whose cheer squad is THE BEST. Okay, a little bit of trumpet blowing there. 🤭

    Reminds me of my old Rotaract days.

    You're a credit to yourself and the jumper 👍😉👏👏👏

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    Our record as Naarm is not good. We are yet to win a game. Any chance we are tanking to get a priority pick for the best indigenous talent in the next PSD? 

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    I do wonder what happened to our 3 tall backs setup that seemed to dominate. Petty forward has impacted Lever’s role in my opinion. Maybe Disco should be in. (Even Tommo.). No idea who would come out.

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    27 minutes ago, DeeMee said:

    I do wonder what happened to our 3 tall backs setup that seemed to dominate. Petty forward has impacted Lever’s role in my opinion. Maybe Disco should be in. (Even Tommo.). No idea who would come out.

    The clever teams stopped lobbing it in.

    Neutered us

     
    15 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

    The clever teams stopped lobbing it in.

    Neutered us

    We haven’t played with that set up this year

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