JvR Free!!!

[GM11 782]

Hard to think of a top level sport  that is as badly adjudicated, on and off the field, as AFL football.

 

[demon3165 2,805]

AFL new football gear being sold in all outlets now...

[Jaded No More 68,974]

If we don’t appeal this, it will be the first time in many many years that I will be deeply disappointed with the club. We haven’t put a foot wrong IMO in a long time. I was very happy to accept the Kosi penalty, but if we don’t defend a kid who plays the game with good intent and bravery, I would be incredibly upset. 
JVR deserves better and if we accept this suspension we are telling him 6 games in, that he has to spend the rest of his career second guessing if he should attack the contest or not. 
I would hate to lose that side of his game because it is a big part of what makes him so special. 

[layzie 34,014]

6 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

If we don’t appeal this, it will be the first time in many many years that I will be deeply disappointed with the club. We haven’t put a foot wrong IMO in a long time. I was very happy to accept the Kosi penalty, but if we don’t defend a kid who plays the game with good intent and bravery, I would be incredibly upset. 
JVR deserves better and if we accept this suspension we are telling him 6 games in, that he has to spend the rest of his career second guessing if he should attack the contest or not. 
I would hate to lose that side of his game because it is a big part of what makes him so special. 

I'm confident we'll do the right thing. I'm starting to get pretty irritated by the discipline being handed out to players doing the right thing and playing the game in a spirit that we love. The Chandler incident against West Coast last year was a real shame and was unfair to make an example out of him in that moment. 

It's a hard game to play as it is, let's not keep throwing brain candy at these guys. 

[chookrat 4,268]

2 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

If we don’t appeal this, it will be the first time in many many years that I will be deeply disappointed with the club. We haven’t put a foot wrong IMO in a long time. I was very happy to accept the Kosi penalty, but if we don’t defend a kid who plays the game with good intent and bravery, I would be incredibly upset. 
JVR deserves better and if we accept this suspension we are telling him 6 games in, that he has to spend the rest of his career second guessing if he should attack the contest or not. 
I would hate to lose that side of his game because it is a big part of what makes him so special. 

Jaded, fully agree with this. I was fully comfortable with the two weeks for Kossie but to accept the JVR suspension would mean not backing in our players to play the game in the right way. If we appeal and lose I'd expect the club to issue a statement that we will continue to encourage our players to contest the ball. This approach is consistent with Goody stating the bump is dead in reference to the Kossie bump, where in this case were stating the contest is not dead and if the Tribunal intends to suspend players for this then we will back in our players.

[Deebauched 1,220]

9 minutes ago, layzie said:

I'm confident we'll do the right thing. I'm starting to get pretty irritated by the discipline being handed out to players doing the right thing and playing the game in a spirit that we love. The Chandler incident against West Coast last year was a real shame and was unfair to make an example out of him in that moment. 

It's a hard game to play as it is, let's not keep throwing brain candy at these guys. 

Yep   re Chandler suspension. Hawkins did an almost identical tackle in the same round. No report no citing by MRO,.... nothing to see here   play on. I wouldnt be surprised if the broken TV  commentators applauded his powerful tackle.

AFL is run by amateurs. This Dillon bloke better be good.   Gill McLacklan set the AFL back years to the point where a non entity like NRL have caught up by default.

[Kick_It_To_Pickett 3,293]

How long have we got to wait before we announce an appeal?

[Jaded No More 68,974]

6 minutes ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

How long have we got to wait before we announce an appeal?

I assume we are trying to put a case together first. That will take a little bit of time. 
I have no idea when the cut off is to accept or challenge but I suspect it’s today as the tribunal will likely sit tomorrow or Wednesday. 

[Kick_It_To_Pickett 3,293]

Dermott Brereton in support of JVR on SEN. Reckons it was genuine spoiling attempt. accidental contact. Says the decision must be changed, otherwise it has the ability to drastically change the game. Reckons Christian is being directed by higher powers to suspend players based on outcomes, to satisfy improved optics amongst fans (and lawyers - although that was what I inferred, not directly stated). 

[daisycutter 29,743]

15 minutes ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

How long have we got to wait before we announce an appeal?

seem to remember they have till 11am today, but don't quote me

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

5 minutes ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

Reckons Christian is being directed by higher powers to suspend players based on outcomes, 

Kane Cornes?

[Jaded No More 68,974]

13 minutes ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

Dermott Brereton in support of JVR on SEN. Reckons it was genuine spoiling attempt. accidental contact. Says the decision must be changed, otherwise it has the ability to drastically change the game. Reckons Christian is being directed by higher powers to suspend players based on outcomes, to satisfy improved optics amongst fans (and lawyers - although that was what I inferred, not directly stated). 

Except the outcome wasn't even a problem here, as Ballard suffered neither a neck injury nor a concussion in the end.

We are now punishing players because a doctor made a call to get a stretcher on the ground out of an abundance of caution?

 

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,708]

It might have been said earlier on in the thread and i didn't come across it, if we don't challenge this we will come across as a weak as water football club.

How can Carlton [censored] Football Club challenge the unchallengeable with Cripps last year and get off and MFC just continue to just be bent over a barrel with no lube and take whats coming to them.

Show some back bone MFC and lawyer up we have the financial resources now so we don't bend on this one like others before.

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,708]

23 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

seem to remember they have till 11am today, but don't quote me

We got 15 minutes to grow a set and lawyer up.

Big clubs challenge this will show me if our powerbrokers think and know we are a big Football club now.

Perceptions are everything in the AFL.

Edited May 8, 2023 by YesitwasaWin4theAges

[RedLegs23 940]

Sam Edmund confirming that we will contests!

[Mickey 4,731]

We're appealing

 

Edited May 8, 2023 by Mickey

[forever demons 2,232]

JVR spoiled from front on,why did Ballard grab the back of his head as if hit there or was that from the previous knock he got

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

Appeals process and deadlines outlined here

2023-AFL-Tribunal-Guidelines.pdf

[Deeoldfart 8,065]

2 minutes ago, RedLegs23 said:

Sam Edmund confirming that we will contests!

Thanks MFC!  That is the first critical step.  The next is for the Tribunal to exercise some common sense and clear JVR.  The alternative will (van) ruin our great game, which has withstood the test of time.

[FearTheBeard 1,223]

Why are we surprised by Christian being a [censored]? He hates us and always has, look at Hogan and Lewis getting three weeks in 2017 against Carlton when Carlton lied about Cripps' broken jaw. Hope this is the shortest tribunal case of all time. 

[McQueen 17,867]

[Deeoldfart 8,065]

11 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Appeals process and deadlines outlined here

2023-AFL-Tribunal-Guidelines.pdf 7.4 MB · 2 downloads

Thanks WWS.  Maybe this pdf should be permanently pinned somewhere on Demonland.

[Jaded No More 68,974]

The last line in the article from the website regarding the appeal is good... I assume GC will send in a medical report to back this up

"The club has reached out to the Gold Coast Suns, and pleasingly Ballard has recovered well and is expected to play this week."

 

 

[YearOfTheDees 3,266]

1 hour ago, demon3165 said:

AFL new football gear being sold in all outlets now...

But a 360 Spin is holding The ball.

[YearOfTheDees 3,266]

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