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  On 02/05/2023 at 08:44, Gawndy the Great said:

Couldn’t find the best place to plant this but given this is the main thread in the lead up to game day though I’d share.

Hoiney (spelling?) from CD tonight on SEN mentioned our #1 PF scoring is a bit misleading on the quality of our footy. Good kicking is good footy I know, but I think the message is that we aren’t flying as the top 2 position might represent and that we come back a little on the ladder if we were afl avg in set shot accuracy.

 Similarly the Pies are abysmal  in the turnover scoring game. They didn’t really talk about our downside atm  but given there was nothing glaring is a good sign that we are just not in the best form - which you don’t want to be I. April / May. 

A real fake news item really. We have won by 50 50odd 62 and 90.  And our accuracy has been a large part of those results. What it does say is when we play well out footy is in good shape as we are getting the ball to the front of goals plus getting goals on the run from close in. 

Tigers Was a 50/50 potential result but instead of kicking the game away like them we again kicked well and the 3 goal margin reflected that again. 

I am sure many Dees fans can recall over the 50 years especially when we had poor teams we would play like the Tigers well and bravely but we were our worst enemy with conversion and eventually good teams would overrun us with pressure and extra class. Now it's our turn to repay those results and reflect our skill and new found accuracy. Long May it last. 

They are not looking for Pies downsides just marvelling at their skill etc in close finishes even without more shots as the Crows kicked away the game on Sunday. 
 

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      On 01/05/2023 at 12:11, titan_uranus said:

    Have you heard about the circle of parity? You can run through all 18 clubs by saying "A beat B, but B beat C, but C beat D" and so on until you get back to where you started.

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      On 02/05/2023 at 08:44, Gawndy the Great said:

    Couldn’t find the best place to plant this but given this is the main thread in the lead up to game day though I’d share.

    Hoiney (spelling?) from CD tonight on SEN mentioned our #1 PF scoring is a bit misleading on the quality of our footy. Good kicking is good footy I know, but I think the message is that we aren’t flying as the top 2 position might represent and that we come back a little on the ladder if we were afl avg in set shot accuracy.

     Similarly the Pies are abysmal  in the turnover scoring game. They didn’t really talk about our downside atm  but given there was nothing glaring is a good sign that we are just not in the best form - which you don’t want to be I. April / May. 

    I noticed someone calling himself @binman messaged in to ask Hoiney about team fitness statistics - there couldn't be two binman's who follow AFL could there?

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      On 02/05/2023 at 10:55, Willmoy1947 said:

    Just while i'm talking i do think that another Club other than GC might be up and about a bit more this year and could end up vying for seven and eight along with TWSNBN and now Sydney and that CLUB is GWS. 

    If they knock off the Dogs this week they they’d have to be in finals calulations.

    I’m heading down the M1 for the game, I’m also taking my 7 year old to his first AFL game, I certainly hope we’re switch on at the first bounce, the game at the Gabba wasn’t a great outing for Demons supporters (especially those that cracked the [censored] and left when the lights went out……)

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      On 02/05/2023 at 08:40, D4Life said:

    We’ve played 7 danger games this year, winning 5 losing 2!

    Tigers came out hot against the Demons and had an extra four players umpiring for them! Looked ordinary in comparison last week, kicked badly for goal, Demons would have handled comfortably in that form.

    Miller out hurts GC, Demons should control midfield and be too strong for GC but won’t be easy!

    We also use the space at the G really well and won't have this ability playing away. 

      On 30/04/2023 at 01:38, Roost it far said:

    It’s bad management to drop Schache after one game

    I’d bring in Spargo for Jordan

    Petty for Hibberd

    Rinse and repeat

    Shackey is apparently injured

     
      On 02/05/2023 at 11:58, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    If they knock off the Dogs this week they they’d have to be in finals calulations.

    Two narrow and almost on final siren wins over Hawks and a depleted Swans is a good reward for GWS. 

    But it does not alter the fact that it's list is still in the very much " work in progress" mode. Especially without Sam Taylor on the injured list for a large part of the season. 

    It's team as usual has its stars but most are not at the standard of 2019 except Toby Greene and now Coniglio has returned to near his best. Whitfield ( injury) Kelly ( form) Haynes ( form) are shadows of their previous best IMO. Himmelberg is good but spasmodic and Flynn promising a bright career in the future. 

    They have holes in each line and on ball is very up and down with the other Greene possibly the most reliable each week. 

    Admittedly Jesse Hogan has strengthened the forward line and Bedford may replace Hill in time. 

    They have a chance vs Dogs but won't want to be four goals down again and expect to win. They are not the Pies. And they probably won't kick 17.5 again and Tony may not be BOG to give them a chance with his super talent up against a better back line than the depleted Swans. 

      On 02/05/2023 at 23:04, 58er said:

    Two narrow and almost on final siren wins over Hawks and a depleted Swans is a good reward for GWS. 

    But it does not alter the fact that it's list is still in the very much " work in progress" mode. Especially without Sam Taylor on the injured list for a large part of the season. 

    It's team as usual has its stars but most are not at the standard of 2019 except Toby Greene and now Coniglio has returned to near his best. Whitfield ( injury) Kelly ( form) Haynes ( form) are shadows of their previous best IMO. Himmelberg is good but spasmodic and Flynn promising a bright career in the future. 

    They have holes in each line and on ball is very up and down with the other Greene possibly the most reliable each week. 

    Admittedly Jesse Hogan has strengthened the forward line and Bedford may replace Hill in time. 

    They have a chance vs Dogs but won't want to be four goals down again and expect to win. They are not the Pies. And they probably won't kick 17.5 again and Tony may not be BOG to give them a chance with his super talent up against a better back line than the depleted Swans. 

    Toby not Tony sorry !! 


    Where are you Qld members sitting if using your freebie tickets with the membership for this game. I used mine up at Lions and going to book tickets. Looking to sit in a area with fellow Demon supporters. Cheers 

      On 02/05/2023 at 22:51, picket fence said:

    Shackey is apparently injured

    Schache is available:

    https://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/1321419/rd-8-injury-report?videoId=1321419&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1682990802001

    Goody was non-committal about the team make-up this weekend in today's presser. Unfortunately Luke Dunstan has an MCL and will out for 4-6 weeks: 

    https://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/1321659/rd-8-media-conference-simon-goodwin?videoId=1321659&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1683072865001

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    Without reading Goodwin's mind, it sounds like Schache will be dropped and will play for Casey.

    Petty a direct replacement for Schache I'm assuming.

    He was confident that Spargo will be selected.

    He mentioned that tough calls will be made for this weekend, which will no doubt mean Jordon will get the wrong end of the stick despite being a perfectly capable AFL player.

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    I have this gut feeling that the strategy of banging it long to King (impressive as he is) or Mr Loquacious isn't going to hold up against us. Their only true crumber is Ainsworth, who is fine but he's not Pickett or Chandler and I'd pick Nibbler ahead of him, too. A couple of their midfielders occasionally pop up for a couple of goals, but the overall scoring power is very weak.

    As I see it, there are just four players we need to put special attention to and we'd reduce the Suns to running in mud. King, Anderson, Witts, and Lukosius. The rest deserve normal AFL respect but these four are the key to the Suns being dangerous.

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      On 02/05/2023 at 23:04, 58er said:

    Two narrow and almost on final siren wins over Hawks and a depleted Swans is a good reward for GWS. 

    But it does not alter the fact that it's list is still in the very much " work in progress" mode. Especially without Sam Taylor on the injured list for a large part of the season. 

    It's team as usual has its stars but most are not at the standard of 2019 except Toby Greene and now Coniglio has returned to near his best. Whitfield ( injury) Kelly ( form) Haynes ( form) are shadows of their previous best IMO. Himmelberg is good but spasmodic and Flynn promising a bright career in the future. 

    They have holes in each line and on ball is very up and down with the other Greene possibly the most reliable each week. 

    Admittedly Jesse Hogan has strengthened the forward line and Bedford may replace Hill in time. 

    They have a chance vs Dogs but won't want to be four goals down again and expect to win. They are not the Pies. And they probably won't kick 17.5 again and Tony may not be BOG to give them a chance with his super talent up against a better back line than the depleted Swans. 

    Why are you posting this on the pregame v gold coast


      On 03/05/2023 at 02:03, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    Without reading Goodwin's mind, it sounds like Schache will be dropped and will play for Casey.

    Petty a direct replacement for Schache I'm assuming.

    He was confident that Spargo will be selected.

    He mentioned that tough calls will be made for this weekend, which will no doubt mean Jordon will get the wrong end of the stick despite being a perfectly capable AFL player.

    Well, you are actually attempting to read Goodwin's mind because he didn't give any indication any of this will be happening. I'm not saying your predictions are going to proved incorrect. Time will tell.

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      On 03/05/2023 at 04:17, Sydney_Demon said:

    Well, you are actually attempting to read Goodwin's mind because he didn't give any indication any of this will be happening. I'm not saying your predictions are going to proved incorrect. Time will tell.

    He was pretty effusive that Spargo's back in.

    He sounded like he was being kind to Josh Schache in terms of his performance last week and that the fact that he said he'll play at either Casey of MFC, suggests to me that he won't be in the senior side.

    I must have heard it differently to you, but I'm confident of those 2 selections.

     

      On 02/05/2023 at 10:25, Deemania since 56 said:

    Yes, that really seems like a fair assessment. Wellsy: Do you notice the primary similarities between the Honourable Greg Wells (No.11) and the up and coming fast learner - Chandler?

     

    Both favour bib ‘n brace overalls?

      On 03/05/2023 at 07:15, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    He was pretty effusive that Spargo's back in.

    He sounded like he was being kind to Josh Schache in terms of his performance last week and that the fact that he said he'll play at either Casey of MFC, suggests to me that he won't be in the senior side.

    I must have heard it differently to you, but I'm confident of those 2 selections.

     

    I think Schache's performance has gotten off lightly in most appraisals on here and have no doubt he would be back at Casey.

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      On 03/05/2023 at 00:28, Docs Demons said:

    Where are you Qld members sitting if using your freebie tickets with the membership for this game. I used mine up at Lions and going to book tickets. Looking to sit in an area with fellow Demon supporters. Cheers 

    Section 215 is where we were allocated tix….

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      On 02/05/2023 at 08:44, Gawndy the Great said:

    Couldn’t find the best place to plant this but given this is the main thread in the lead up to game day though I’d share.

    Hoiney (spelling?) from CD tonight on SEN mentioned our #1 PF scoring is a bit misleading on the quality of our footy. Good kicking is good footy I know, but I think the message is that we aren’t flying as the top 2 position might represent and that we come back a little on the ladder if we were afl avg in set shot accuracy.

     Similarly the Pies are abysmal  in the turnover scoring game. They didn’t really talk about our downside atm  but given there was nothing glaring is a good sign that we are just not in the best form - which you don’t want to be I. April / May. 

    My understanding of that goalkicking thing is we are 11% above expected. If you subtract that from our scores our win/loss record remains the same.

    That said - all that matters during the season is winning 16 games and beating the other contenders. We are 0/1 in the latter. Looking forward to the Collingwood and Geelong games to see where we're at.

      On 02/05/2023 at 12:15, BrisbaneDemon said:

    I’m heading down the M1 for the game, I’m also taking my 7 year old to his first AFL game, I certainly hope we’re switch on at the first bounce, the game at the Gabba wasn’t a great outing for Demons supporters (especially those that cracked the [censored] and left when the lights went out……)

    Have a great time!

      On 03/05/2023 at 07:38, loges said:

    I think Schache's performance has gotten off lightly in most appraisals on here and have no doubt he would be back at Casey.

    You are right Loges - he certainly wasn't a match winner.

    However, he competed and put himself in the right spots. I would like him to get a follow up week just to make a better judgement of whether or not he can be a useful ( or better) contributor.

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    Will be interesting to see who goes out for Salem when he comes back in, probably around the Collingwood game.....(all things going well with his recovery).

      On 03/05/2023 at 10:22, Wadda We Sing said:

    Will be interesting to see who goes out for Salem when he comes back in, probably around the Collingwood game.....(all things going well with his recovery).

    In theory it will be Bowey...

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