5 minutes ago, Spargonicus said:

Hardwick: “we know the kind of football that beats Melbourne, we just needed to execute it for longer”

this is what worries me - sides have worked our main strategy out and we don’t have enough different ways to play…and don’t choke sides out like we used to…

don’t get me wrong, I’m enjoying watching our team play strong footy these days, but we’re not our once irresistible selves…

It’s a bit of a throwaway line. Everyone knows how to beat everyone if they can execute better for longer.. Sounds like a coach who knows their season is over. 

56 minutes ago, layzie said:

Whoever said JVR has played his last game in the 2nd quarter should be fired. 

Rooter me now!  Well i didnt say last game but yeh some work needed!

Edited April 24, 20232 yr by Demon Dynasty

24 minutes ago, DeelightfulPlay said:

Welcome back from the Kossie thread, Layz!  😊

Nah still no closer, must have been a broadcast thing!

1 hour ago, DutchDemons said:

Van Rooyen I love you.

You’ve gotta love the Dutch !!

if you can get your hands on one !!

8 minutes ago, Spargonicus said:

Hardwick: “we know the kind of football that beats Melbourne, we just needed to execute it for longer”

this is what worries me - sides have worked our main strategy out and we don’t have enough different ways to play…and don’t choke sides out like we used to…

don’t get me wrong, I’m enjoying watching our team play strong footy these days, but we’re not our once irresistible selves…

Me too. People wanted fast ball movement and flashy finesse. Sometimes I just want to slow the game and make the opposition idiots do all the running. 

People calling for BB to be promoted to push Petty back again are delusional 

Petty competes both on the ground and in the air - until TMac or BB start to show some strong form at Casey we have no choice but to leave Petty up forward 

if we want another tall back Disco Turner is playing well and could be an option 

6 minutes ago, pineapple dee said:

You’ve gotta love the Dutch !!

if you can get your hands on one !!

Except he's from Zimbabwe!

Just now, Sydee said:

People calling for BB to be promoted to push Petty back again are delusional 

Petty competes both on the ground and in the air - until TMac or BB start to show some strong form at Casey we have no choice but to leave Petty up forward 

if we want another tall back Disco Turner is playing well and could be an option 

He gave us enough of a contest. Neither of the others come back in for me.

Great last quarter but wowee do we [censored] ourselves in the D50 at the moment.  Panicked handballs, awful turnovers, blokes not knowing when to go up and when to stay down, blatant blocking frees and the list goes on.

Bereft of confidence down there, May is in poor form, Brayshaw so slow to get it on the boot.  We look sluggish and scared.

Kinda felt like we didn't deserve to win that, if they'd kicked straight in that 5 minute patch in the last I reckon we may have folded.

I reckon we just look like a 7th to 10th placed team this year. It was great to see the intensity lift in the last and grind out a win...but we just looked like we were attacking the contest in slow motion through the first 3.

Our defence was giving up around 18 scoring shots consistently a few years back...it seems to be more like 24ish now which is just too many to be a contender. Our pressure is nowhere near where it was back then. Mark Williams' goal kicking work is saving our skin right now.

Also Steven May seems to have similar issues to Tom McDonald. They play more like rookies than guys with 10 years' experience...so unusual for players with that much experience to have such a huge variation on performance. This is an issue we've had with senior players since forever...and there are a couple of others at the moment who aren't too dissimilar. 

That was a brilliant game, all those dismissing it are not crediting Richmond who really brought the heat. Richmond won the 1st quarter and then our team went to work. Exactly the sort of effort you want to see. JVR, haven't been as excited about one of our forwards since Schwarz in 1995! McVee is playing like Jarred Rivers did on debut, just so bloody reliable and clutch. Quickly becoming my favourite player, he's one of those guys that doesn't drop his head, just goes every time, not a confidence player, just a player and will get a RS this year. It was a hard game to watch because it was close, we are too used to perfection, but we won, we are still a team you can trust.

Jack Viney, people can go punch themselves in the heads when they bag him, you just don't understand football, it's not ice dancing. I honestly feel like he is one of the reasons (along with N.Jones) that we got through the dark years. Did you see the way he barreled in when JVR was getting kneed? (shout out to Grundy as well), provided pressure but didn't give away a silly free, tell me that you don't walk taller with the way the team back each other.

Our defense is so much better with Lever and Hibberd in it, and I am still firmly in the Petty forward camp, feel like today was proof. He stretched Richmond and Fritsch was unlucky to not get off the leash. Time and again he provided body and protection.

Gawn, welcome back, our rucks managed to swing the game after we arrested the early damage. Brayshaw super reliable, another huge team man, ran all day, huge km, likewise Langdon, just got where he needed to be, great efficiency lovely goal. This ruck combination, if fit, will clean up this season.

Petracca and Oliver got into the game, Oliver looked to really think his way through disposals today, and that 2nd qtr goal was class under pressure. Trac did thing that I take for granted and shouldn't, great presence.

Chandler another tribute to our recruiting and craft brining young men on.

ANB provided huge defensive pressure and run, easily tracking for best season so far.  Carlton can take their beauty queen bunch of a team, I will take the ANB's and Chandlers that just do a power of work to get the best out of themselves and play a role perfectly in a team game.

May needs a reset, he's riding the wrong emotions in game, needs to get his head right, am worried he's NQR 'cos his calf isn't right for explosive movements feel like he's going to cost us a free or two in critical moments. Bowey is still a bit off but after a booboo he laid a smother that Bradley Hill would've been proud of, was pleased he kept his head in the game, but at the moment if Salem is fit, Bowey is who I would drop.

Umps sucked, but our class is such we didn't drop our heads. Loved the Crowd, we match Richmond for Noise, well done @WCW and others.

More to say but am dealing with Sudan right now, this is the first time off I've had in seven days, 18hr days, 3 colleagues killed, after distributing rations to refugees, another three shot (one of who we couldn't extract for 3 days, a good friend kidnapped, and dear friends still trapped inside. That and I've lost everything I own, clothes, photos/HD, blah blah, but seriously seeing the stress of friends who cannot get out of a warzone is emotionally tough, my french colleague was in Cairo for weekend and her kids were trapped for a week, one 10yo son with a family in Amarat, the 8yo daughter in Riyad with the nanny and noone else, they only just made it to Djibouti yesterday, mum is going insane. I needed today, thanks Dees.  

Just on another tack, here's my chat with my ever curious yet unwilling to offer her own interpretation mum…

Edited April 24, 20232 yr by Chook

25 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Take the win for sure, still so much work to do. Seriously need to work out what our best forward mix and build it around JVR.

Just on JVR, there was some Seriously embarrassing comments from supporters in the game day thread. Same ones are now praising him? C'mon..

Brodie Grundy was nearly the clincher for me. I thought he really changed the momentum for us. I know this comment won't be well received, but I think I prefer Grundy rucking more then I do with Gawn. Grundy just places its beautiful to our mids where as Gawn can be really hit and miss. And that's no disrespect to Gawn because I think he's more potent up forward. Was certainly good to have big skip back.

Glad Viney was awarded BOG

Bad: Hibberd, Oliver and May were absolutely howlers tonight. 3 senior heads who continued to cough up the ball in crucial times of the game. May's form is a worry and Oliver has gone back to just throwing the ball on the boot with zero awareness. 

Take the 4 points, recover well and move on to next Saturday. 

May has not looked right in the last. few games.

15 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

It’s a bit of a throwaway line. Everyone knows how to beat everyone if they can execute better for longer.. Sounds like a coach who knows their season is over. 

It's the kind of thing you say as a rebuilding side that doesn't have enough mature players to run out a game yet.

1 hour ago, Tom Dyson said:

Kade Chandler stepped up in that third quarter when we needed a spark, great endeavour and fight to get us back into it. 

Our intercept game started to come back in that second half too, our defensive structure certainly looked a lot better closing out the game (which i think is drastically aided by Max's inclusion).  

 

28 minutes ago, deva5610 said:

 

But he wasn't outside 5 metres behind the mark, hence the free kick. If he had stayed 5 metres out there wouldn't have been a free paid.

To be absolutely clear - The protected area extends 5 metres behind the player on the mark, and 10 metres either side.

And yet this never ever ever gets paid. Until tonight. 

10 minutes ago, rufus said:

I reckon we just look like a 7th to 10th placed team this year. It was great to see the intensity lift in the last and grind out a win...but we just looked like we were attacking the contest in slow motion through the first 3.

Our defence was giving up around 18 scoring shots consistently a few years back...it seems to be more like 24ish now which is just too many to be a contender. Our pressure is nowhere near where it was back then. Mark Williams' goal kicking work is saving our skin right now.

Also Steven May seems to have similar issues to Tom McDonald. They play more like rookies than guys with 10 years' experience...so unusual for players with that much experience to have such a huge variation on performance. This is an issue we've had with senior players since forever...and there are a couple of others at the moment who aren't too dissimilar. 

May's been consistent for two full years till the last two or three matches. Let's remember he's coming off a calf.

Reckon the FD are just managing him with light duties to make sure its fully healed and/or get a managed "off" week into him if we can get say Disco in to cover and Pettty back.

There are so many things we are unaware of that go on inside the four walls.

Watching him at the Captain's run on Friday there appeared to be a genuine attempt to keep him out of any heavy contact work in the defensive drills.

Have faith and add a bit of time plus maybe a 'managed' week off and i reckon he'll come good again at some stage.

Edited April 24, 20232 yr by Demon Dynasty

8 minutes ago, dee-tox said:

Except he's from Zimbabwe!

All the great Dutchmen are

I thought Chandler turned the game when we didnt look like winning with assistance Langers and Viney

 

Just listened to the JVR interview on fox footy after the game. Kid's a ripper. 

Jonathan Brown huge wraps on him as well.

We have a real talent on our hands. Another JT special.

Surprised they didn't give best on to umpire number 8, was Richmond's best by a country mile!! 🤣

4 minutes ago, DEE fence said:

That was a brilliant game, all those dismissing it are not crediting Richmond who really brought the heat. Richmond won the 1st quarter and then our team went to work. Exactly the sort of effort you want to see. JVR, haven't been as excited about one of our forwards since Schwarz in 1995! McVee is playing like Jarred Rivers did on debut, just so bloody reliable and clutch. Quickly becoming my favourite player, he's one of those guys that doesn't drop his head, just goes every time, not a confidence player, just a player and will get a RS this year. It was a hard game to watch because it was close, we are too used to perfection, but we won, we are still a team you can trust.

Jack Viney, people can go punch themselves in the heads when they bag him, you just don't understand football, it's not ice dancing. I honestly feel like he is one of the reasons (along with N.Jones) that we got through the dark years. Did you see the way he barreled in when JVR was getting kneed? (shout out to Grundy as well), provided pressure but didn't give away a silly free, tell me that you don't walk taller with the way the team back each other.

Our defense is so much better with Lever and Hibberd in it, and I am still firmly in the Petty forward camp, feel like today was proof. He stretched Richmond and Fritsch was unlucky to not get off the leash. Time and again he provided body and protection.

Gawn, welcome back, our rucks managed to swing the game after we arrested the early damage. Brayshaw super reliable, another huge team man, ran all day, huge km, likewise Langdon, just got where he needed to be, great efficiency lovely goal. This ruck combination, if fit, will clean up this season.

Petracca and Oliver got into the game, Oliver looked to really think his way through disposals today, and that 2nd qtr goal was class under pressure. Trac did thing that I take for granted and shouldn't, great presence.

Chandler another tribute to our recruiting and craft brining young men on.

ANB provided huge defensive pressure and run, easily tracking for best season so far.  Carlton can take their beauty queen bunch of a team, I will take the ANB's and Chandlers that just do a power of work to get the best out of themselves and play a role perfectly in a team game.

May needs a reset, he's riding the wrong emotions in game, needs to get his head right, am worried he's NQR 'cos his calf isn't right for explosive movements feel like he's going to cost us a free or two in critical moments. Bowey is still a bit off but after a booboo he laid a smother that Bradley Hill would've been proud of, was pleased he kept his head in the game, but at the moment if Salem is fit, Bowey is who I would drop.

Umps sucked, but our class is such we didn't drop our heads. Loved the Crowd, we match Richmond for Noise, well done @WCW and others.

More to say but am dealing with Sudan right now, this is the first time off I've had in seven days, 18hr days, 3 colleagues killed, after distributing rations to refugees, another three shot (one of who we couldn't extract for 3 days, a good friend kidnapped, and dear friends still trapped inside. That and I've lost everything I own, clothes, photos/HD, blah blah, but seriously seeing the stress of friends who cannot get out of a warzone is emotionally tough, my french colleague was in Cairo for weekend and her kids were trapped for a week, one 10yo son with a family in Amarat, the 8yo daughter in Riyad with the nanny and noone else, they only just made it to Djibouti yesterday, mum is going insane. I needed today, thanks Dees.  

Not sure I agree with your call on Oliver thinking his way through his disposals.. He had a game high 9 clangers tonight and was noticeably hacking it blind like his early days.  Unfortunately we're not blessed with a midfield who can kick.

Viney and Max really lifted us in the third.

Bowey had a great second half.

Chandler is really making the most of it. Congrats to the lad. Showed Kozzy how it's done tonight.

Hilarious that Goody said they had JVR ready to be subbed when he kicked that first goal.

Great shut down game by pig.

What's happened to our defensive game in the forward line? Goody used to bang on about it all the time. I think there were 6 mins left in the second before we applied a good tackle inside our 50 and Petty goaled.

The ball has just been rebounding out for far too long now.

Is May a bit crook?

Lots to work on but a fantastic game.

Well done to everyone who showed up. Great crowd.

Has the MFC ever officially complained about umpiring? I can't remember a time in the past 40 years. Geez it was suss tonight.

What did you guys think of the umpiring?

Sorry Van Rooyen. I had you back at Casey next week. 

I was secretly hoping you could do something in the final quarter but boy you did more than that