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And Bradley Hill could be best 22 at the Dees, I’m almost wondering if Weitering could be a replacement for May when he retires, and Jacob is looking to play in a successful team.

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14 hours ago, BDA said:

St Kilda will play finals and give top 4 a nudge. They are very fit and well drilled.

 

14 hours ago, YearOfTheDees said:

It's April, lets see them keep this up all season.

 

14 hours ago, BDA said:

I think 6 games is a large enough sample to make a reasonable call. Their defensive structure and game plan holds up. Their fixture is kind playing Lions, Suns, Hawks, North, Tiges and Carlton twice. I'm pretty confident they'll play finals.

They have played and won two of the double up games (GCS and Carlton).  Even if we count Lions games as losses that leaves eight very winnable games giving them a total of 13 wins at EOS.  They will most likely win a few others especially when their better players return and they are yet to play the Eagles.

Agree they will be nudging top 4. 

As an side, I'm not fond of the Saints but they are far from my most disliked team.  If we don't win the premiership I'm ok if they do.

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2 hours ago, DEE fence said:

And Bradley Hill could be best 22 at the Dees, I’m almost wondering if Weitering could be a replacement for May when he retires, and Jacob is looking to play in a successful team.

The problem is if you have a generational defender you don't usually give them up. I'm a big fan of Weitering though and would have him in a heartbeat. 

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22 hours ago, Demonsone said:

What can you say about the free agency& trade rules when a team like the cats have been in the premiership clock for a decade can get the best full forward in Cameron & after winning a flag get gifted with a top 10 pick in Bowes & a pick 7.. Understand Dees got lever & May but we were not playing finals, gave up Hogan to get May…

Where's the cap space gone??? <Insert Travolta's Pulp Fiction meme>

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Just now, Neil Crompton said:

Haha I didn’t think there was a lot of value in what was presented.

Yes, but those steak knives look good 🙂

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12 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

I don't think the fact that some of their opponents were top 4 at the time of playing them means a whole lot in the first 6 weeks.

Right now Fremantle and Carlton don't look like finals sides. So their wins over the Dogs and Essendon look good. But even then, I'm not sure Essendon will keep it going all year.

Plus they're yet to play a non-Gather Round interstate game.

Collingwood IMO is miles in front of any other side for flag favouritism. Geelong's beaten two (not even) VFL-quality sides and a Sydney side missing its back and forward lines. St Kilda see above. I'm unsure on Essendon keeping their form for another 18 weeks. Sydney's depth is non-existent and unlike previous years they're going to need it in 2023. Brisbane will win enough H&A games but they still don't defend well and have to get better away from the Gabba. Adelaide struggled to beat Hawthorn and strike me as a massive flash in the pan style side. Port Adelaide are hot/cold. Carlton have problems all over the place.

As for us? Well, I don't know. But I know we're not as good as Collingwood.

The other thing about St Kilda is they started this way last year too and were flying at 5 wins 2 losses (one loss by a point) until they met us in Round 8 and it all fell apart after that.

I think it's a little early, but given their defensive start (points conceded and what they're doing with their zone), they're definitely in the top 4 or 5 IMO.

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19 minutes ago, Orion said:

A lot of people would be surprised to know that St Kilda at the same point last year were 5-1

With a very different draw last year.  Teams played twice:  Finalists:  Cats (GF), Lions (PF), Swans(GF), Freo (SF) and Hawks.  All played at least once in the second half and Swans twice in the second half.  This year's double games:  Lions, Suns, Hawks, North, Tiges and Carlton.

Now the fixture shouldn't make that much difference but sadly it does.  Finish low and get rewarded:  Saints 2022/23.  Finish high get penalised:  Freo 2022/2023.

But the Saints are a much better team this year.  Wouldn't underestimate them.

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Personally Carlton are/were teetering.

Cripps BLM getting picked up more than twice for throwing in one game.

Umpire favourites for week.

Paying short passes of less than 15 mtrs.

Actually paying marks.

 

 

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5 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

 

 

As an side, I'm not fond of the Saints but they are far from my most disliked team.  If we don't win the premiership I'm ok if they do.

Undoubtedly they beat the other possible alternatives in Pies, Cats, Bombers, Brisbane etc 

They’ve seen so little success, I would be really happy for their fans if they won it. I just despise Ross Lyon. 

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4 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Undoubtedly they beat the other possible alternatives in Pies, Cats, Bombers, Brisbane etc 

They’ve seen so little success, I would be really happy for their fans if they won it. I just despise Ross Lyon. 

Good chance this would be true for 80% or more AFL fans.  He really isn't that likeable, but choosing St Kilda over nearly every club except your own is quite easy. 

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The optimist in me says that one of them will lose, and that makes me happy.

The pessimist in me says that one of them will win, and that makes me unhappy.

Best result, then, is a draw I suppose with both teams and their supporters disappointed.

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4 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

The optimist in me says that one of them will lose, and that makes me happy.

The pessimist in me says that one of them will win, and that makes me unhappy.

Best result, then, is a draw I suppose with both teams and their supporters disappointed.

nope, that'd push us from 3rd to 4th!

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Did we all enjoy Augie March playing during the pregame? They’re arguably the most underrated Australian band ever. I guess they had to sing I was only 19 as it’s fitting, but their original music is quite something else. 

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On 4/21/2023 at 11:21 PM, kev martin said:

I understand your description, and will look more closely at JVR's method next time.

Had a bit of a look at JVR's marking method, @demon3165

You were right, he kind of has his wrist turned back and opens his palm towards the ball.

The balls energy seems to be absorbed by his elbow movement, which if he has freedom from opponents works well to bring the ball in. If he gets it a bit wrong, out it pops, off those palms. It doesn't pop out too far, as there is some cushioning. Would prefer his wrist to be part of the give. Also noticed that Brody has a similar technique (palms of the hand are turned forward).

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28 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

Can  anyone at the game last night give a guestimate of the Dees v tigers fans?

I’d say it was 2:1 Dees to Tigers. The Melbourne supporters came, and they really brought the noise. The booing at the umpiring early was only out done by the cheering in the last.

I thought we sounded great last night. Was a really proud night for the footy club and it’s supporters.

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