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3 hours ago, Winners at last said:

Hoskin-Elliott is the definition of a vanilla footballer.

It's incredible how he gets a game week after week, year after year. He's good for one (1) decent football act per match (eg. a contested mark, sometimes a goal). The rest of the time he just takes up space.

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    2 hours ago, Demon17 said:

    Can anyone explain to me the whole John Denver song thing at the Gabba.  West Virginia ,,  etc, etc, ?????

    Is it a Queensland thing only they would understand???

     

    They think we're Mexicans so clearly their grasp of geography is limited at best. Maybe they think they can see Russia from their front porches.

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    2 hours ago, Dwight Schrute said:

    I can't work out what can be taken from that game. you'd like to think there is a blueprint against the Pies but they blew a lot of chances. i suspect the slippery, dewy conditions at the Gabba at night have been an adjustment for the Dees and Pies 

    My thoughts exactly. On top of  no ruck, the pies also, as you point out, kicked for goal really poorly. eg nick daicos hits the post from direct in front  15 m on the run. Elliot kicks 3 behinds all of which he normally nails. If I was a pie Id be feeling pretty confident of the match up if it happens again. I also see no blueprint there of how to beat the pies. In fact watching that game, and how undermanned they were, only  makes me feel even more wary of them than I was before that game. 

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    3 hours ago, Winners at last said:

    Hoskin-Elliott is the definition of a vanilla footballer.

    Good set shot and that's it. Need to get him the ball lace out for anything to happen.

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    10 minutes ago, Wells 11 said:

    My thoughts exactly. On top of  no ruck, the pies also, as you point out, kicked for goal really poorly. eg nick daicos hits the post from direct in front  15 m on the run. Elliot kicks 3 behinds all of which he normally nails. If I was a pie Id be feeling pretty confident of the match up if it happens again. I also see no blueprint there of how to beat the pies. In fact watching that game, and how undermanned they were, only  makes me feel even more wary of them than I was before that game. 

    Thought the same. Pies were up and running in that last quarter by comparison to Lions who looked to be hanging on.

    Play that game again on the MCG it's probably a Pies win

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    4 hours ago, Kent said:

    oh you mean  the one with the voice like a chainsaw love that ear piecing sound at full volume 🤫

     

    Yes that's the one Kent...

    I literally take ear plugs now and use them at half time because of her.

    Not sure what happened to Robbo.  Wish he would come back.

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    41 minutes ago, BDA said:

    If I had to choose a post goal celebration tune, I’d go with "Angel of Death" by Slayer. Guaranteed to get the grandstand rocking.

    Give me Dead Skin Mask

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    4 hours ago, Winners at last said:

    Hoskin-Elliott is the definition of a vanilla footballer.

    Turns Neapolitan against us.

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    3 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

    Turns Neapolitan against us.

    Turns Noah's ark against us with 2 of every flavour! 

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    Anyone giving North a chance later? I know they’re short down back, would like to see them beat the Blues.

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    1 hour ago, BDA said:

    If I had to choose a post goal celebration tune, I’d go with "Angel of Death" by Slayer. Guaranteed to get the grandstand rocking.

    ANGELS OF DEATH BY HAWKWIND A MUCH BETTER VERSION

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    5 minutes ago, picket fence said:

    ANGELS OF DEATH BY HAWKWIND A MUCH BETTER VERSION

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    NEVER!!!!

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    2 hours ago, Clintosaurus said:

    Charlie Cameron used to have Baby Shark.

    Wonder if the media will go after their love child Nick Daicos for the dive and/or the massive squibbing of the hard ball?

    he might be a good player and excellent kick, but he is such an outside player. a great receiver.

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    15 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

    Anyone giving North a chance later? I know they’re short down back, would like to see them beat the Blues.

    I too would like to see it. 

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    3 hours ago, Dwight Schrute said:

    I can't work out what can be taken from that game. you'd like to think there is a blueprint against the Pies but they blew a lot of chances. i suspect the slippery, dewy conditions at the Gabba at night have been an adjustment for the Dees and Pies 

    I am no expert but will venture a couple of observations. 

    The Wobbles were caught out on the counter with no players able to get back quickly. 

    Their defence is not very good with really only one quality back, Moore. 

    The Bears seemed to take the corridor away either by matching numbers or blocking the area. Compared to other games they seemed o be forced around the boundaries more than other games.

    And yes Daicos should have ben reported for staging and did shirk a couple of times. I hope Harmes is available when we play them or at least Viney  that will sort him out. He needs clean space, clarry on the other hand works in the middle often with several hanging off him. 

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    3 minutes ago, Robbie57 said:

    I am no expert but will venture a couple of observations. 

    The Wobbles were caught out on the counter with no players able to get back quickly. 

    Their defence is not very good with really only one quality back, Moore. 

    The Bears seemed to take the corridor away either by matching numbers or blocking the area. Compared to other games they seemed o be forced around the boundaries more than other games.

    And yes Daicos should have ben reported for staging and did shirk a couple of times. I hope Harmes is available when we play them or at least Viney  that will sort him out. He needs clean space, clarry on the other hand works in the middle often with several hanging off him. 

    I think their defence is better than that. They just don't protect it well when they turn it over in the middle because every is forward of the ball. 

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    Prisencolinensinainciusol

    by Adriano Celentano. Unpronounceable title,  make up your gibberish lyrics and arguably a pre curser of rap music would be a great football song 

     

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    23 minutes ago, layzie said:

    I think their defence is better than that. They just don't protect it well when they turn it over in the middle because every is forward of the ball. 

    Agree with that, I think my point is that Moore seems able to get back and anticipate whilst the others are struggling to do so but I accept its an exaggeration on my part. I think my  point is their gameplan is not built on defence first. Clearly there is way to disrupt how they like to play.  

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    4 hours ago, Mister Ed said:

    All things considered, Brisbane have lucked out in both of their home games this year.

    Round 2 - Max goes down in the opening minutes giving them the ruck advantage as well as playing against a disorganized Melbourne lineup for most of the night.

    Round 4 - No Collingwood rucks at all.

    Could easily be 0 and 4.

     

     

    True but I also think they also get a massive advantage from the conditions of the ground and weather. 

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    4 hours ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

    Apparently it’s Charlie Cameron’s favourite song, hence they play it after he scores a goal. 
     

    The real story here is they were playing the ‘Frozen’ soundtrack after Smokin Joe’s second goal. 
     

    Torturous stuff, perhaps it’s cunning psychological warfare. Or maybe the fan engagement team at BLFC are completely cooked. 

    This lists the goal celebration song of choice for the Lions players. 
    https://www.neds.com.au/blog/2022/05/brisbane-lions-player-songs-ranked/

    You don’t hear some of these songs since it’s only when a goal is kicked by that particular player.

    As for Joe Daniher, his choice is Let it go from the movie Frozen. My guess is that this might be a tongue-in-cheek choice. Reason being, he actually has awesome taste in music. He’s very much into alternative/non-mainstream music. I’m guessing he was told it had to be a well-known song that everyone can sing along to and that pretty much rules out most of what he likes.

    Or he simply likes that song. What would I know? 😁

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    You only realise the value of a good ruckman when you haven't got one

    There are many ways to create scoring opportunities but taking one aspect out (taps to advantage with clean possession forward) is not one that clubs can do without ongoing.  Certainly not if a club is a true contender

    So it's not so much being prepared to try and shark the opposition taps (that's quite do-able) it's the advantage that a good ruckman can bring with taps to advantage

    But the main reason the Pies lost last night was the Lions all over the ground pressure.  The Pies couldn't deal with it

    Under pressure the Pies turned the ball over.  The Lions had the game won early in the 3rd quarter and played very well in the process

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    Very little was surer than Collingwood losing a game despite the AFL media's "how do you beat them?" rhetoric, than the AFL media asking if they've been "worked out" now that they've lost.

    Brisbane applied great pressure and Collingwood wilted. It was also at the Gabba where Brisbane is on a streak of something like 39-7 over the last 4 years. 

    Collingwood can be exposed with the way they press their defence up the ground, but it requires strong pressure and strength at contest to avoid them playing in their front half.

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