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NON-MFC: Rd 01 2023

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  On 19/03/2023 at 08:12, Return to Glory said:

There was a fair bit of that as last year progressed. May rue his decision to leave. Was playing with the best ruckman and two of the best midfielders of the last decade (at least)

He only won a flag and a rising star because who and what surrounded him. Some players have no idea how lucky they are. 

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      On 19/03/2023 at 08:11, Jaded No More said:

    Jackson had no idea how incredibly lucky he was to have absolutely no pressure playing under Gawn. 
    Good luck playing with zero intensity at Freo after they spent so much on you. 

    I reckon the Freo mob will start to get stuck into him after today’s performance, he showed nothing to justify the money and draft capital they spent on him.

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    Massive inefficient disposal numbers in that match for very little outcome ... Saints 395 to Freo 435.

    Fremantle 65 inside 50s for 7 goals.

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      On 19/03/2023 at 08:05, Jaded No More said:

    They screwed us. They deserve that karma. 

    Also why is Peter Bell on the bench? Is he also coaching now? 🫠

    he was looking for some feathers he misplaced

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      On 19/03/2023 at 08:15, Gawndy the Great said:

    I reckon the Freo mob will start to get stuck into him after today’s performance, he showed nothing to justify the money and draft capital they spent on him.

    From their bigfooty post-mortem thread. No-one was spared btw. Except Ross Lyon.

    Jackson sucks, Fyfe is too old, we don't have a forward line, Treacy can't play football and Ethan Hughes is on an AFL list

    Melbourne must be celebrating today, genuine shot at a top 10 pick all of a sudden

    Jackson can't mark to save his life.

    I kicked more goals in a ******* sim than Fyfe and Hackson combined. Typo but I’ll leave it.

    Hope Melbourne enjoy our 1st rounder

    0 marks to Jackson is a bad stat line by itself, but he was out bodied and out read every time the ball went near him in a marking contest. And he added very little more at ground level.

    I thought Jackson overall was poor. And yet he started so brightly with that neat handball to Freddy for our first goal. But it was summarized by his lazy boneheaded kick around the body shot for goal that missed the lot. And that basically characterized the afternoon.....sigh!

    I'll get howled down for this, but I thought Jackson showed some glimpses and I think - provided we straighten this structural cluster* out - he will be worth it in the long run. At least he was contesting 100 per cent.

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    Sad to see Fyfe after a preseason still look cooked

    has any player ever crashed harder from 2 brownlows? he was a champ. 

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      On 19/03/2023 at 10:16, DubDee said:

    Sad to see Fyfe after a preseason still look cooked

    has any player ever crashed harder from 2 brownlows? he was a champ. 

    Yep, for mine during that Brownlow period he was unbelievably good

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      On 19/03/2023 at 10:16, DubDee said:

    Sad to see Fyfe after a preseason still look cooked

    has any player ever crashed harder from 2 brownlows? he was a champ. 

    Cripps may experience the same fate, their career trajectories are almost identical. Even down to the injuries and Brownlow.

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      On 19/03/2023 at 07:59, Little Goffy said:

    Bombers have Suns Saints and Giants to come. If round 5 Demons - Dons is a top of the table clash and we completely derail their season in the space of a couple of hours, it'll be worth it.

    Temple of Doom scene where the guy has his heart pulled out and shown to him before he is lowered screaming into the lava. 

    Yep and looking forward to the look on Scotts face.

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    Dear lord Fremantle fans should be livid. St Kilda has a bottom 6 list and was missing a stack of best 22 players, Fremantle is supposed to be in flag contention and was missing I think just Walters. Should have been a comfortable 5 goal win, not a loss.

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    Since 1995, the team that has ended up 1st on the ladder after R1 has only missed finals once (Lions 2007)

    Over to you Essendon.

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      On 19/03/2023 at 21:04, Dee Zephyr said:

    Since 1995, the team that has ended up 1st on the ladder after R1 has only missed finals once (Lions 2007)

    Over to you Essendon.

    Quite a stat isn't it! 

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    I've never seen anything from Mr Treacy to suggest he'll be a decent forward. 

    Edited by layzie

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      On 19/03/2023 at 21:04, Dee Zephyr said:

    Since 1995, the team that has ended up 1st on the ladder after R1 has only missed finals once (Lions 2007)

    Over to you Essendon.

    Mmmmmmmmmmmm ... this is going to be delicious.

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      On 19/03/2023 at 06:40, DubDee said:

    Bombers will win the day but I back Mitchell to fare better than Scott in the long run.  First year taking over a big club... don't overachieve.  Rutten snuck into finals and then they expected top 4 and he was sacked. Logic doesn't come into it

    Mitchell will play kids, tinker with game plans and has already traded a lot of senior players (tank). will pick up high draft picks.  when Hawks win 8-10 games next year it will be seen a success for him

    Meanwhile Scott will be under pressure

    Some clubs end up at ground zero by circumstance but the Dorks have gone there through deliberate action, which is a high risk strategy.  This sstrategy is fine provided you win games.  If you dont you get sacked.

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      On 19/03/2023 at 22:13, Jontee said:

    Some clubs end up at ground zero by circumstance but the Dorks have gone there through deliberate action, which is a high risk strategy.  This sstrategy is fine provided you win games.  If you dont you get sacked.

    Please please please bring an expansion club (Tasmania) into the AFL whilst Hawthorn are bottoming out.

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      On 17/03/2023 at 12:47, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    Collingwood to make a grand final at the minimum. I was on their wagon last year and nothing tonight would suggest otherwise.


    They have absolutely mastered the art of playing at the MCG as indicative of winning 14 of their last 17 games there.
    I think they play 14-15 games there this year and always play well in WA and SA for some interstate wins.

    (To argue against myself I’d be interested to see how this rematch goes in the cold and heavy MCG track in July with Geelong more conditioned)

    I only hope our boys can start mastering our home ground. That will go a long way to us contending this year. 

    I was interested in this stat about Collingwood at the G so I had a look.

    You're right, they've won 14 of their last 17 at the G stretching back to the start of 2022. But of the 14 wins, only 4 of them were against sides of any note: us twice last year, the semi final against Fremantle, and this week vs Geelong. The other 10 wins last year were against sides which missed the finals, whilst the three losses were to Geelong twice and Richmond.

    In the same period we're 9-6 at the G. The 9 wins included the Dogs, Richmond and Brisbane last year (all finalists) and the Dogs this year (we'll see if they're any good). The losses were to Fremantle, Sydney twice, Collingwood twice and Brisbane - all 2022 finalists.

    So our recent fixtures at the G have been harder than theirs, and we've still won the same number of games in that time against good sides as Collingwood has. The difference is we had far more games at the G last year against finalists and didn't win them all.

    I'm therefore not convinced Collingwood has some sort of knack for playing at the G that we don't have.

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      On 20/03/2023 at 11:10, titan_uranus said:

    I was interested in this stat about Collingwood at the G so I had a look.

    You're right, they've won 14 of their last 17 at the G stretching back to the start of 2022. But of the 14 wins, only 4 of them were against sides of any note: us twice last year, the semi final against Fremantle, and this week vs Geelong. The other 10 wins last year were against sides which missed the finals, whilst the three losses were to Geelong twice and Richmond.

    In the same period we're 9-6 at the G. The 9 wins included the Dogs, Richmond and Brisbane last year (all finalists) and the Dogs this year (we'll see if they're any good). The losses were to Fremantle, Sydney twice, Collingwood twice and Brisbane - all 2022 finalists.

    So our recent fixtures at the G have been harder than theirs, and we've still won the same number of games in that time against good sides as Collingwood has. The difference is we had far more games at the G last year against finalists and didn't win them all.

    I'm therefore not convinced Collingwood has some sort of knack for playing at the G that we don't have.

    Good research there.

    The only thing I'd pick up from your post is that two of the three Collingwood MCG losses were recorded prior to round 9 last year where they were still finding their way under McCrae and started 4-5. Since then they've only lost 3 games and two of them were in Sydney.

    If Collingwood can finish top 2, I'm concerned (at the moment) that they'll waltz into a GF with a minimum of fuss.

    We had a very good start to our MCG slate of games on the weekend. I'd be very interested to see how we go against Sydney and Collingwood. 

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    Sam Weideman may have encountered more bad luck.  He was moving very gingerly after Sunday's game as this photo shows and a Bomberbliz poster has reported that he is wearing a moon boot.

     

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      On 20/03/2023 at 23:33, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    Good research there.

    The only thing I'd pick up from your post is that two of the three Collingwood MCG losses were recorded prior to round 9 last year where they were still finding their way under McCrae and started 4-5. Since then they've only lost 3 games and two of them were in Sydney.

    If Collingwood can finish top 2, I'm concerned (at the moment) that they'll waltz into a GF with a minimum of fuss.

    We had a very good start to our MCG slate of games on the weekend. I'd be very interested to see how we go against Sydney and Collingwood. 

    True. Since it clicked, Collingwood has been very tough to beat.

    Everyone expects them to regress. Who knows if, or when, that might happen. There's no sign of it happening any time soon, although they did get Geelong without a number of defenders (Kolodjashnij and Henry missed, Stewart down early) which helped them outscore Geelong's 103.

    I predict Collingwood will put Port back in their box this weekend but it will be interesting to see how that game plays out, if Port can bring a similar level from the Brisbane game then who knows.

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      On 22/03/2023 at 02:55, titan_uranus said:

    True. Since it clicked, Collingwood has been very tough to beat.

    Everyone expects them to regress. Who knows if, or when, that might happen. There's no sign of it happening any time soon, although they did get Geelong without a number of defenders (Kolodjashnij and Henry missed, Stewart down early) which helped them outscore Geelong's 103.

    I predict Collingwood will put Port back in their box this weekend but it will be interesting to see how that game plays out, if Port can bring a similar level from the Brisbane game then who knows.

    Ignoring our game and death-riding Freo, Collingwood and Port is the most intriguing game of the round, followed by Cats and Blues.  

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