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14 minutes ago, YearOfTheDees said:

It's a crazy time of the year. Print what you like, you don't need any proof. Get one story right out of a thousand and claim you're a reporter. 

Same thing applies to a few posters on here who claim to be "in the know". Goodwindees is the only poster I trust.

 
9 hours ago, DubDee said:

Rory Lobb will be 31 by round 1

hes not great but we’d get him for a slab of CC and Dry

I wouldn’t waste the CC and dry on him

13 minutes ago, deespicable me said:

Well Clarries second half of the year was his poorest on record (in my opinion) and against a sensational last 4 years of great years. His return from injury and finals were underwhelming and I thought one of Goodwins tasks during the off season was to not only change the game plan or focus of our chaos ball attack, but to get Clarrie to buy in and get re-energised within the team. Not necessarily an easy thing to do.

Add to that Yze going, who the midfield team apparently loved and theres plenty of space for clubs and journos to see a chance of jamming a wedge into our fragile team ethos after straight set double exits. We can be guaranteed these sort of stories continuing to be shoved down our throat, just as sure as the feelgood stories will continue for the next 12 odd months about Collingwood. It will be MFC who will be held to account for Brayshaws concussion issues, not football hero Maynard. 

Finally Oliver has yet to become an adult. He might be off-side.

These are big issues for us going forward and Kate Roffey through to Goodwin and Max and the whole playing list need to spend time and energy healing, re-focussing and uniting into a strong and driven club. We are in for a wild off season.

Whether it's an unfounded rumour or not, it's our response that will count.  


The uh... second half of the season that he mostly missed due to injury?

Expert appraisal.

 
28 minutes ago, deespicable me said:

Well Clarries second half of the year was his poorest on record (in my opinion) and against a sensational last 4 years of great years. His return from injury and finals were underwhelming and I thought one of Goodwins tasks during the off season was to not only change the game plan or focus of our chaos ball attack, but to get Clarrie to buy in and get re-energised within the team. Not necessarily an easy thing to do.

Add to that Yze going, who the midfield team apparently loved and theres plenty of space for clubs and journos to see a chance of jamming a wedge into our fragile team ethos after straight set double exits. We can be guaranteed these sort of stories continuing to be shoved down our throat, just as sure as the feelgood stories will continue for the next 12 odd months about Collingwood. It will be MFC who will be held to account for Brayshaws concussion issues, not football hero Maynard. 

Finally Oliver has yet to become an adult. He might be off-side.

These are big issues for us going forward and Kate Roffey through to Goodwin and Max and the whole playing list need to spend time and energy healing, re-focussing and uniting into a strong and driven club. We are in for a wild off season.

Whether it's an unfounded rumour or not, it's our response that will count.  

Great post, agree. 

10 minutes ago, Mach5 said:


The uh... second half of the season that he mostly missed due to injury?

Expert appraisal.

Do not accuse me of being an expert Mach5. Those guys are idiots. Anyhow I apologise for not towing the company line of "it's all bulltish, bloody journos". 

Anyhow the weeks before Clarry came back into the team our midfield had adapted and was in good form. I think we struggled re-integrating him back into the midfield. That sets up all kind of scenarios.


3 hours ago, Nascent said:

Twomey just said clubs are enquiring about Oliver. No suggestion Melbourne would entertain it.

WHATTTTTTTT 😱

Finally Oliver has yet to become an adult. He might be off-side.

Really,

heresay, fact or just pure speculation!????

 
2 hours ago, Roost it far said:

Personally I’d prefer to upgrade our running players than sell the farm for a key forward like McKay. I also think we should be drafting the next May. Don’t get me wrong if we can get McKay for 2 first round picks outside the top 10 I’m ok with that. But pick 5, give me someone more dynamic and game breaking. 

Agree our game is built around the best defense.  You add a lumbering tall up forward and its one less player to race back to form the tight knit that doesn't allow holes.  Would rather groom a younger Jefferson to run back into that role.  Of course we still need someone to fill for Max if he goes down for insurance.  

Is it better to kick an extra 3 goals or allow opposition to kick 5.

6 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

I think the Dogs would pay half of Lobb's contract and offload him for a token pick.

no need for a token pick, just give them schache back


On 9/30/2023 at 10:38 AM, Redleg said:

This thread should hot up from monday, but it may not be great news for us.

 

Gee @Redleg, you might have been on to something without even realising. You’ve gone and manifested Clarry trade rumours!

Clayton is a required player. But it's not unconditional. 

He has to decide if he wants to be a walk up hall of famer or a bloke who was very good at footy for a while.

His choice.

1 minute ago, Chook in Perth said:

Clayton is a required player. But it's not unconditional. 

He has to decide if he wants to be a walk up hall of famer or a bloke who was very good at footy for a while.

His choice.

Oohh boy, now it’s real. 

Chook has arrived. 👌

Anything else for us, @Chook in Perth? Please and thank you. 

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12 minutes ago, Chook in Perth said:

Clayton is a required player. But it's not unconditional. 

He has to decide if he wants to be a walk up hall of famer or a bloke who was very good at footy for a while.

His choice.

Welcome back


So if Brandon zerk thatcher is worth a first rounder, the only club with the collateral to make a clarry offer has to be north. Sheezel, larkey and pick 2. Hard to say no at that point. Although could be haggled down to pick 3 instead of 2. 

If North think they’re getting Reid and an Oliver deal is in the offing then Sheezel could be part of the deal. I still can’t see it happening. 


33 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Finally Oliver has yet to become an adult. He might be off-side.

Really,

heresay, fact or just pure speculation!????

Speculation of course. I only get news from here or I speculate Picket.

But a lot of people have a story about Oliver being out and about drunk. I know I have. Not to say he shouldn't be of course. Perfectly normal behavior for a young man. Not necessarily for a full time professional sportsman though who has to run 15 km every week and is at the coal face of most contests. He is being asked to sacrifice and compromise and personally I see it as an issue for him at this point in his short life. 

Compare him to Trac and Viney, both married, comfortable in their own skin and settled down. Again not to knock Clarry at all. He just has a bit of growing up to do. And part of growing up is deciding whats right for you and how you would like to go about it.  I think his second half of the year reflected that.

The club is playing with fire if they are open to listening to offers for Clarry. We need to nip it in the bud ASAP.

Clarry may not have been at his best when he came back from injury, but that's understandable considering the setbacks he had during his rehab. He's been injury free since he started, so coming back from injury was new to him.

If he is allowed to look elsewhere, the only club with the currency is North. If he chooses another club, that limits what we can expect in return. Sure, we can hold him to his contract should trade talks break down, but we would then need to mend the fence with Clarry.

Clarry is a recent 2 time Coaches Award winner. That puts him in the top 10 players in the comp. MFC needs to shut this nonsense down.

 

 

Realistically only about 3 teams have the currency to get this done, it would be one of the biggest trades of all time. i kind of want it to happen just to see a deal on that scale. 

I'd be wanting a top 5 pick and a player, or a top 5 pick and a top 10 pick to even start the conversation 

18 minutes ago, deespicable me said:

Speculation of course. I only get news from here or I speculate Picket.

But a lot of people have a story about Oliver being out and about drunk. I know I have. Not to say he shouldn't be of course. Perfectly normal behavior for a young man. Not necessarily for a full time professional sportsman though who has to run 15 km every week and is at the coal face of most contests. He is being asked to sacrifice and compromise and personally I see it as an issue for him at this point in his short life. 

Compare him to Trac and Viney, both married, comfortable in their own skin and settled down. Again not to knock Clarry at all. He just has a bit of growing up to do. And part of growing up is deciding whats right for you and how you would like to go about it.  I think his second half of the year reflected that.

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