21 hours ago, Stiff Arm said:

So you're claiming Richo said that "Kossie deserves 650-700k" and that "May, Lever and Gawn are on north of  that" in 2024? And he said we may not be able to re-sign Kossie because of the Tracc, Clarrie and Gus deals???

Wow, if true he should be sacked immediately 

May, Lever and Gawn have all been reported at relevant and various stages to be on more than that figure.

Richo didn't say Kozzie deserved that, that is the 'industry talk' based on what current deals are and what I think Kozzie is worth (I don't think anyone on here with half a brain would disagree with that). 

He didn't say that we wouldn't be able to re-sign Kozzie because of those deals: he said that it makes for conversation that clubs work out whether they want their premium top-liners to be rewarded (Trac, Clarry, Gus - all done last year) which makes it more difficult to retain the next tier (Luke Jackson case and point - and now the conversation turns to Kozzie).

Does that help you?

FEARS GROWING PICKETT WILL LEAVE DEMONS THE LONGER HE REMAINS UNSIGNED

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/02/26/fears-growing-pickett-will-leave-demons-the-longer-he-remains-unsigned/

Whilst I'm in the GONE camp the clown on SEN knows absolutely nothing other than he's heard the same unsubstantiated [censored] we've all heard. I shake my head at the fact these [censored] muppets get paid real money and not monopoly notes.

 

Joy erupting as each day is another day closer to Pickett re-signing...

Edited February 27, 20232 yr by rjay

On 2/25/2023 at 6:29 PM, AzzKikA said:

No more recruiting from interstate, just not worth it. 

You want the best players at your football club so you still have to recruit the best even if they're from interstate and even if they leave you get good draft picks in return 

I don’t really think this is going to be about money. I trust our list management to have left enough in the budget to satisfy Kossie. The talk of him leaving came up early in last years trade period before we signed Hunter and Grundy. I’m not sure we sign the former if we don’t think we would have enough left in the kitty for Kozzie. 
Also Kozzie would probably double his current salary this year if he signed now. 

While the above article from SEN tells us nothing we don’t already know it is right about one thing and that’s the longer he doesn’t sign the more of a media circus there will be. 
Kossie strikes me a a person that would rather not have all  that attention which leaves me very fearful that he may not be hear after this season. Hope I'm wrong. 

6 minutes ago, Colm said:

I don’t really think this is going to be about money. I trust our list management to have left enough in the budget to satisfy Kossie. The talk of him leaving came up early in last years trade period before we signed Hunter and Grundy. I’m not sure we sign the former if we don’t think we would have enough left in the kitty for Kozzie. 
Also Kozzie would probably double his current salary this year if he signed now. 

While the above article from SEN tells us nothing we don’t already know it is right about one thing and that’s the longer he doesn’t sign the more of a media circus there will be. 
Kossie strikes me a a person that would rather not have all  that attention which leaves me very fearful that he may not be hear after this season. Hope I'm wrong. 

So, if he planned on leaving wouldn't he be better to simply say now that is his intentions. then all the media circus is done - zero reason for speculating about will he or wont he  

The media speculation wont let up until he signs. Very destabilising for the club.

I met him at the Family Day. He's a very quiet, polite, charming, reserved young man.

I agree with the comments that he'd be hating the attention he's getting. 

Even though he told me he'd be staying, I suspect he's far from making a decision.

14 minutes ago, Sydee said:

So, if he planned on leaving wouldn't he be better to simply say now that is his intentions. then all the media circus is done - zero reason for speculating about will he or wont he  

I’d imagine it would be difficult to play a season for a club when you have pledged your future to another club. Never really happens does it. If he did that lots of fans would be calling for him to play at Casey and give  minutes to players who are sticking around. 

1 hour ago, Winners at last said:

I met him at the Family Day. He's a very quiet, polite, charming, reserved young man.

I agree with the comments that he'd be hating the attention he's getting. 

Even though he told me he'd be staying, I suspect he's far from making a decision.

If I was in his position, that is what id say even if I knew I was leaving too. The alternative is a long uncomfortable discussion, that nobody would want to have with a fan. 

Mid-season trading anyone?

I cannot fathom how a trade gets done with Port. Their first pick is in the 30s. There's only one player on their list you'd consider trading for and there's a snowflake's chance in h*ll they'll trade him. The rest of their kids wouldnt even get a game in our 1sts.  At that point you may as well play hard ball and let him walk to the PSD. 

Adelaide has a top 5 pick but given they just lifted Rankine, its unlikely. Freo, no draft currency. West Coast have a top 5 pick, but not sure that's their most pressing need right now.

Leaving this year is going to be a major stress point for everyone, primarily him. He should re-sign for another 2 years, bank a few more finals and then reassess the landscape. His value wont have receded. 

 

Edited February 27, 20232 yr by Jjrogan

3 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

FEARS GROWING PICKETT WILL LEAVE DEMONS THE LONGER HE REMAINS UNSIGNED

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/02/26/fears-growing-pickett-will-leave-demons-the-longer-he-remains-unsigned/

SEN create drama to pay the bills and stay on air. 
that article says nothing except the obvious 

IF the Koz leaves we will be given high draft picks/players 

I hope he stays of course, but player movement is here to stay. 
 

We have him this year. Let the Star shine

1 hour ago, Winners at last said:

I met him at the Family Day. He's a very quiet, polite, charming, reserved young man.

I agree with the comments that he'd be hating the attention he's getting. 

Even though he told me he'd be staying, I suspect he's far from making a decision.

I'd take him at his word, If he says he's staying then he's staying.

3 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

FEARS GROWING PICKETT WILL LEAVE DEMONS THE LONGER HE REMAINS UNSIGNED

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/02/26/fears-growing-pickett-will-leave-demons-the-longer-he-remains-unsigned/

Not having a go at you personally @dazzledavey36 but...

SEN; FEARS GROWING THAT PEOPLE WILL NO LONGER TUNE IN TO OUR MIND-NUMBING DRIVEL

7 minutes ago, TRIGON said:

I'd take him at his word, If he says he's staying then he's staying.

thank you, tom

To keep the MFCSS cortisol levels pumping though - Trent Rivers. Out of contract and the Eagles have the draft currency.

2 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

thank you, tom

Anytime Kane.

Well, yeah. The longer he's unsigned the more chance he is to leave, that's fairly obvious isn't it? 

I do wonder if he wants to stay what would the holdup be on just signing a contract and having it out of the way given he may dislike attention and constant media harassment.

His management would have put what they want long ago, the club would agree or counter offer, negotiate, agreement reached and all done.

Only possible reasons I can think of:

1. Wait until part way through season when great form increases value but this is offset by possible bad form or injury.

2. Negotiators on one side or the other can not read or send emails.

3. He genuinely does not know if he wants to stay or not - seems unlikely by now surely.

4. Club holding off announcing for a maximum impact time - increase members sign up - seems cynical manipulation.

4. He knows he wants to go so will wait until end of season.

I cannot think of any other scenarios so fear he may be gone next year.

On 2/26/2023 at 8:50 AM, Red and Blue Flame said:

May, Lever and Gawn have all been reported at relevant and various stages to be on more than that figure.

Richo didn't say Kozzie deserved that, that is the 'industry talk' based on what current deals are and what I think Kozzie is worth (I don't think anyone on here with half a brain would disagree with that). 

He didn't say that we wouldn't be able to re-sign Kozzie because of those deals: he said that it makes for conversation that clubs work out whether they want their premium top-liners to be rewarded (Trac, Clarry, Gus - all done last year) which makes it more difficult to retain the next tier (Luke Jackson case and point - and now the conversation turns to Kozzie).

Does that help you?

Yes, conjecture it is!

🤣

45 minutes ago, layzie said:

Well, yeah. The longer he's unsigned the more chance he is to leave, that's fairly obvious isn't it? 

Or.... the longer he waits, especially if he had a great start to the year, the higher his price might be. If he was offered 4 x $500k at the end of last year, he might kick 30 goals by mid year and then be asking MFC for 5 x $650k. Just guessing, of course

Edited February 27, 20232 yr by Stiff Arm

Feels like we've had these conversations a few times before 🤔