Death Riding Fremantle 2023 - Feathered Cap Edition

[layzie 34,148]

Chips to the middle of the table 

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,464]

Just read Darcy and Fyfe will miss remainder of the season.

[adonski 12,611]

3 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Just read Darcy and Fyfe will miss remainder of the season.

The tank is on!

[Deebauched 1,220]

28 minutes ago, adonski said:

The tank is on!

Freo gave away their draft picks. No point tanking.  Their cupboard  is bare.  I hope Jacko was worth it.

[sue 9,151]

5 minutes ago, Deebauched said:

Freo gave away their draft picks. No point tanking.  Their cupboard  is bare.  I hope Jacko was worth it.

With my tinfoil hat on, maybe they plan to do a deal with MFC.  They sink as low as possible and in return we give them something.   (Yes, joking.)

[adonski 12,611]

12 minutes ago, Deebauched said:

Freo gave away their draft picks. No point tanking.  Their cupboard  is bare.  I hope Jacko was worth it.

[Sydney_Demon 1,175]

20 hours ago, ChaserJ said:

Absolutely.  We were able to extract Freo's 2nd rounder for this exact reason.  They begrudgingly relented to our demand and gave us the pick because all parties believed Freo would be much higher on the ladder and that 2 picks in the teens would not have been a fair price for Jacko.

They bet on improving (or at worst holding steady) and now we're getting better than expected value. A win for us, but how big won't be known for a while yet.

I'm surprised the 2023 2nd Round Pick would have sweetened the deal much. Based on a Top 4 finish for Freo this year it would have been about Pick 35 even before dilution from Academy & Father/Son picks, Free Agency Compensation, North Special Compensation etc. etc.  

[Dee Zephyr 19,269]

21 hours ago, layzie said:

Chips to the middle of the table 

[Supreme_Demon 3,903]

6 hours ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Just read Darcy and Fyfe will miss remainder of the season.

They're screwed!

Draft pick 4# in the 2023 AFL Draft is ours!

 

[Demonland 73,266]

13 hours ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Just read Darcy and Fyfe will miss remainder of the season.

 

[Redleg 41,757]

7 hours ago, Supreme_Demon said:

They're screwed!

Draft pick 4# in the 2023 AFL Draft is ours!

 

As long as Suns smash Roos in last round. Dockers will belt Eagles and lift % and then could beat Hawks.

 

[Jaded No More 68,974]

2 minutes ago, Redleg said:

As long as Suns smash Roos in last round. Dockers will belt Eagles and lift % and then could beat Hawks.

 

Freo’s percentage should get worse with games against Geelong in Geelong, Brisbane and Port. 
 

[Redleg 41,757]

7 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Freo’s percentage should get worse with games against Geelong in Geelong, Brisbane and Port. 
 

That’s true. I suppose win over Eagles just has to be less than combined losses to the 3 you named and hopefully lose to Hawks. Then it’s done and with a win by Suns over Roos franking it.

None of us would have seen pick 4 coming, on top of Jefferson pick and improved Freo 2nd rounder.

TBH Jacko has really played no better than in 2022, other than a couple of very good games.

Edited July 24, 2023 by Redleg

[layzie 34,148]

15 hours ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Just read Darcy and Fyfe will miss remainder of the season.

Gotta put that good karma out into the world! 

Edited July 24, 2023 by layzie

[rpfc 28,843]

15 hours ago, adonski said:

The tank is on!

[Demonland 73,266]

 

[Jaded No More 68,974]

Freo supporters digging their heels in and reckon the Jackson trade has been worth it.

Such a bunch of cute delusional purple idiots 

[dazzledavey36 55,458]

Come to us pick 4..

[Demonland 73,266]

 

[ElDiablo14 5,011]

22 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Freo supporters digging their heels in and reckon the Jackson trade has been worth it.

Such a bunch of cute delusional purple idiots 

I hope they think the same in 4 years when their salary cap is cooked and they are still a middle of the pack team with no aspirations. 😁

[Bring-Back-Powell 15,065]

If Ben McKay leaves North, would they not get pick 3 as free agency compo? The pick after their pick 2.

It's no different to us receiving pick 3 for Frawley in 2014.

[Nascent 9,299]

3 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

If Ben McKay leaves North, would they not get pick 3 as free agency compo? The pick after their pick 2.

It's no different to us receiving pick 3 for Frawley in 2014.

Ultimately it comes down to contract price, length and some unknown formula the afl uses that factors in age and god knows what else. Since those are secret, they can disguise draft assistance with a first round compensation pick quite easily.

I will say that Frawley had played nearly twice the amount of games and earned himself an AA jacket. McKay is not the same quality and hard to see a team spending upwards of 800k per year on him.

[daisycutter 29,799]

3 minutes ago, Nascent said:

Ultimately it comes down to contract price, length and some unknown formula the afl uses that factors in age and god knows what else. Since those are secret, they can disguise draft assistance with a first round compensation pick quite easily.

I will say that Frawley had played nearly twice the amount of games and earned himself an AA jacket. McKay is not the same quality and hard to see a team spending upwards of 800k per year on him.

agree. ben mckay is not worth a 1st round pick. The very best would be an end of 1st round pick and even that is doubtful.

his value is not based on his skill or form but more that he fills a niche that not many do, plus a lot of wishful thinking re his "potential".

Of course norf would want a 1st round pick, but i'm surprised how many media pundits are claiming or pushing for it. makes for good click-bait i suppose or maybe the afl have been doing some whispering to their acolytes in the media.

given the afl "magic ingredients" formulae in such trades anything outrageous is possible. But instead of looking for some sneaky way to give norf a compensation pick, just outright give them a compensation pick, but not pick 3 as there is already too much draft distortion at the top end with rfas, academy and father/son guarantees.

[Bring-Back-Powell 15,065]

1 hour ago, Nascent said:

Ultimately it comes down to contract price, length and some unknown formula the afl uses that factors in age and god knows what else. Since those are secret, they can disguise draft assistance with a first round compensation pick quite easily.

I will say that Frawley had played nearly twice the amount of games and earned himself an AA jacket. McKay is not the same quality and hard to see a team spending upwards of 800k per year on him.

Agreed with all that, but this could be the AFL's opportunity to help North out in a major way.

Hope I'm wrong.

[Nascent 9,299]

1 minute ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Agreed with all that, but this could be the AFL's opportunity to help North out in a major way.

Hope I'm wrong.

Absolutely it could. 

Also discussion around North getting the ability to pre-list Sanders and Callinan.

I think it will be one or the other.