Deelectable 1,043 Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 Perfect time to play him. May out. Petty down back. No Casey game. Have a feeling it won't happen. Hope I'm wrong. 7 Quote
Ugottobekidding 1,244 Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 57 minutes ago, Sydee said: His stats might be a bit better if not for his poor technique and execution when kicking for goal - lots of OOTFs and not making the distance efforts I suspect This is an area of his game that needs a lot of work - that and his second efforts which to be fair seem to be improving slightly Should feel at home with his teammates in the senior side with his kicking. 1 Quote
DeeSpencer 26,690 Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said: Yep agree. JVR has been on record saying that those AFL games in his first year gave him the insight into how hard he needed to work in the off season in terms of his strengths and fitness. Pretty much said that getting a feel for senior bodies is what set him up for a strong pre season in terms of knowing here he had to get to compete against the bigger bodies. JVR on the record about something that didn’t exist? JVR kicked 36 goals from 18 vfl games in his first year and they deliberately held him back from a late season AFL debut so he had a big summer to get physically ready. Jeffo in year 2 is now right on pace for where JVR was in year one. There’s some risk and reward to playing him when he’s still not physically ready but it shouldn’t matter much either way. 8 Quote
Smokey 4,391 Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 Not sure Jeffo is ready. Jack Watts' debut still haunts me. 1 1 Quote
Sydee 4,684 Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 48 minutes ago, Ugottobekidding said: Should feel at home with his teammates in the senior side with his kicking. Hardly a compelling case for promotion then - but I’m sure the FD will determine the right time for Matthew It might be this season or it might not If it’s the latter I just hope PF can keep atleast one or two toys in the pram 2 1 Quote
Sydee 4,684 Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 8 minutes ago, Smokey said: Not sure Jeffo is ready. Jack Watts' debut still haunts me. I’m not sure he deserves a promotion yet but to be fair he is more physically ready than Jack Watts Atleast he has spent two seasons playing against seasoned bodies in the VFL If he does get a chance this season it would be wise to temper expectations regarding his output imo 2 1 Quote
dazzledavey36 56,347 Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said: JVR on the record about something that didn’t exist? JVR kicked 36 goals from 18 vfl games in his first year and they deliberately held him back from a late season AFL debut so he had a big summer to get physically ready. Jeffo in year 2 is now right on pace for where JVR was in year one. There’s some risk and reward to playing him when he’s still not physically ready but it shouldn’t matter much either way. His first year of playing AFL footy which was 2023 just to make it clear enough. 1 2 Quote
monoccular 17,760 Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 7 hours ago, Redleg said: I hope we don’t start rubbishing him if his first game is a poor one. He is showing a bit now and hopefully he and JVR can form a great key forward combo for us for years to come. Maybe IF he is going to be “gifted a game to give him a taste” it would be better were it the final round …. the harshest critics may have checked out by then and there would be a long time before he was offered another opportunity.. 1 Quote
monoccular 17,760 Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 3 hours ago, Sydee said: His stats might be a bit better if not for his poor technique and execution when kicking for goal - lots of OOTFs and not making the distance efforts I suspect This is an area of his game that needs a lot of work - that and his second efforts which to be fair seem to be improving slightly Sydee - I admit to not having seen him but seem to recall some commentary that he had excellent technique. I stand corrected. 1 Quote
Sydee 4,684 Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 9 minutes ago, monoccular said: Sydee - I admit to not having seen him but seem to recall some commentary that he had excellent technique. I stand corrected. Being a bit of a tragic I try and watch most Casey games either live or on replay His kicking technique needs work because imo he often gets too close to the man on the mark and as a result he is forced to kick the ball higher than he needs to. This means his kicks are more susceptible to being pushed offline due to any wind and they can lack penetration and fall shorter than would otherwise be the case I am not saying I’m an expert but I also think his ball drop looks a bit high which also may result in less consistent contact He isn’t terrible and I really think it’s a matter of making some small adjustments to get better results 1 1 Quote
Lexinator 1,931 Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 4 hours ago, whatwhat say what said: max gruzewksi ahead of him with 30.19 from 13 games You mean Gruzewski, comrade? 1 1 Quote
whatwhat say what 23,865 Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 22 minutes ago, Lexinator said: You mean Gruzewski, comrade? Souvent pour s'amuser les hommes d'equipage It's like talking to a stranger 2 Quote
Big Col 1,356 Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 I'm on the Jeffo bandwagon. Don't exaggerate expectations and instead let's guarantee him 3 games so we can have a good look and he can be comfortable. We definitely should have a look at him before trade period when we might make moves on Waterman or Houston. 3 Quote
Deelectable 1,043 Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 Why not see what he's got? Imagine if he explodes onto the scene and kicks a bag in 3 games!! Wouldn't that then change our recruitment strategy/ thoughts? eg Jake Waterman. Agreed, small sample size but we have unearthed another key forward it could be a game changer. 4 Quote
layzie 34,528 Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 1 hour ago, Sydee said: Being a bit of a tragic I try and watch most Casey games either live or on replay His kicking technique needs work because imo he often gets too close to the man on the mark and as a result he is forced to kick the ball higher than he needs to. This means his kicks are more susceptible to being pushed offline due to any wind and they can lack penetration and fall shorter than would otherwise be the case I am not saying I’m an expert but I also think his ball drop looks a bit high which also may result in less consistent contact He isn’t terrible and I really think it’s a matter of making some small adjustments to get better results The thing about goal kicking is that if you think you're seeing these things with his routine then you probably are. 2 Quote
Lexinator 1,931 Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 44 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said: Souvent pour s'amuser les hommes d'equipage It's like talking to a stranger Gruzewski jest mój towarzysz. Gruzewski is my comrade. I always have to spellcheck for people for my funky names - sorry, force of habit 😁 1 Quote
monoccular 17,760 Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 2 minutes ago, Lexinator said: Gruzewski jest mój towarzysz. Gruzewski is my comrade. I always have to spellcheck for people for my funky names - sorry, force of habit 😁 Thanx Lexksinater 2 1 Quote
whatwhat say what 23,865 Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 3 minutes ago, Lexinator said: Gruzewski jest mój towarzysz. Gruzewski is my comrade. I always have to spellcheck for people for my funky names - sorry, force of habit 😁 the people united will never be defeated 1 1 Quote
Doug Reemer 1,208 Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 53 minutes ago, Deelectable said: Why not see what he's got? Imagine if he explodes onto the scene and kicks a bag in 3 games!! Wouldn't that then change our recruitment strategy/ thoughts? eg Jake Waterman. Agreed, small sample size but we have unearthed another key forward it could be a game changer. Even if he kicked a bag. I’d be going after Waterman. 2 Quote
Engorged Onion 10,226 Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 5 minutes ago, Doug Reemer said: Even if he kicked a bag. I’d be going after Waterman. Waterman = Lobb 1 1 Quote
Doug Reemer 1,208 Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 7 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said: Waterman = Lobb Either is something!! We have to get an exerienced KF while we have Tracc, Oliver, Gawn & May. 1 Quote
Deelectable 1,043 Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 30 minutes ago, Doug Reemer said: Even if he kicked a bag. I’d be going after Waterman. I would rather go to the draft and get the best midfielder. 4 1 Quote
Bates Mate 4,520 Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 5 hours ago, DeeSpencer said: JVR on the record about something that didn’t exist? JVR kicked 36 goals from 18 vfl games in his first year and they deliberately held him back from a late season AFL debut so he had a big summer to get physically ready. Jeffo in year 2 is now right on pace for where JVR was in year one. There’s some risk and reward to playing him when he’s still not physically ready but it shouldn’t matter much either way. We were top 4 on the ladder and heading into a finals campaign in jvrs first year. We are not making finals this year. So a game or two in the seniors will do him good 5 Quote
Deemania since 56 6,810 Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 14 hours ago, Ugottobekidding said: This is an area of his game that needs a lot of work - that and his second efforts which to be fair seem to be improving slightly It is all a representative benchmark for his progress and a strict regimen for his skills improvements ... let alone some realities of the big-time season ahead of him. Develop, develop and expose. 1 Quote
Little Goffy 14,970 Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 11 hours ago, whatwhat say what said: Souvent pour s'amuser les hommes d'equipage It's like talking to a stranger Wait; you stole a spoon from a novelty kitchen shop? Why tell us that? 10 hours ago, Lexinator said: Gruzewski jest mój towarzysz. Gruzewski is my comrade. I always have to spellcheck for people for my funky names - sorry, force of habit 😁 Keeping the standards high. As high as mount Kosciuszko. (I'm sure even when written, you felt a churning in your stomach knowing that it was inevitably mispronounced in my head) 2 Quote
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