Has there been any revelations from Goody etc from our 2022 Season review? The consistent theme of how we lost all 7 games inc both finals in the same fashion, leading at 1/2 time and then losing, was it fitness in particular with Burgess leaving? was it mindset by the the players?

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Suspect they have done that and know that answers

 

Doubt they will air them publicly

The question will be whether the coaching staff change the game plan or continue with the same old same old that got them to second on the ladder

I hope they add variety because clubs have worked us out and the predictability killed us

8 x 90 pts or more scored against us vs 2021 only one did that happen.

Dysfunctional forward line I believe. 😂

14 minutes ago, McQueen said:

Dysfunctional forward line I believe. 😂

Dysfunctional connection between mids and forward line more specifically I would think.  
Or dysfunctional forward game plan rather than (all) the individuals. 

Why would the club publicly release this information? 

48 minutes ago, Spaghetti said:

Why would the club publicly release this information? 

They won't. Anyone thinking it will be is a fool.

18 hours ago, monoccular said:

Dysfunctional connection between mids and forward line more specifically I would think.  
Or dysfunctional forward game plan rather than (all) the individuals. 

I think this much has been publicly acknowledged by the club and was one of the key reasons stated for recruiting Lauchie Hunter.

Missed TMac.

delivery inside 50 too predictable

got our conditioning program wrong

Too many niggles and injuries at the wrong time 

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52 minutes ago, BDA said:

Missed TMac.

delivery inside 50 too predictable

got our conditioning program wrong

Too many niggles and injuries at the wrong time 

I agree.  The cats seemed to manage player loads far better than us to be healthy at the end of the season.

But I think it is part of a learning curve, it was the first time we made a GF in 20 years and how players are managed the following year was a new process for the club and as far as I'm aware the support staff as well. 

We'll be better for it in 2023. 

 

8 hours ago, BDA said:

got our conditioning program wrong

Another D'land furphy.

On 11/5/2022 at 1:41 PM, Demonsone said:

Has there been any revelations from Goody etc from our 2022 Season review? The consistent theme of how we lost all 7 games inc both finals in the same fashion, leading at 1/2 time and then losing, was it fitness in particular with Burgess leaving? was it mindset by the the players?

Recently bumped into a colleague who is chummy with one of the board members. When he spoke with him post season he mentioned that the players were over confident but that’s it. Doesn’t explain the lack of fitness and fade outs though.

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You probably won't hear anything until the eve of next season in a  short interview with a player or staff member and a couple of off the cuff lines about how we identified the issues and believed we have addressed them, this will be as good as it gets.

 

Why would the Club make that information Public, just so SEN and Slob.bo can talk about it ad Nauseum 

The main problem we had in 2022 was that TMac went down in Round 10 and could not return.Sam Weiderman sadly was not up to it as a replacement. 

There would be other problems, but unless one is inside the Footy Department, no one can make any definitive observation 

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22 hours ago, darkhorse72 said:

I agree.  The cats seemed to manage player loads far better than us to be healthy at the end of the season.

They did have a very easy run home which allowed them to do this.

On 11/5/2022 at 2:03 PM, jnrmac said:

Suspect they have done that and know that answers

 

Doubt they will air them publicly

The question will be whether the coaching staff change the game plan or continue with the same old same old that got them to second on the ladder

I hope they add variety because clubs have worked us out and the predictability killed us

8 x 90 pts or more scored against us vs 2021 only one did that happen.

I think the recruitment of Grundy will force a change in game plan for the better. No team will be able to match up on it, especially if we also get Van Rooyan (sp?) firing up forward. Interesting time ahead…

I think if May kicks out to the left after each point and we kick to a pack in the forward pocket we will smash it this year!

 

A mate spoke to a players father who said we had 11 injured players playing in the finals. We know quite a few of them like Lingers for instance carried injuries for a lot of the season. Injuries can limit how much they can train which in turn eventually effects their ability to run out games. Might explain a lot. More likely explanation than Cats got conditioning right and we got it wrong. 

On 11/6/2022 at 12:11 PM, BDA said:

Missed TMac.

delivery inside 50 too predictable

got our conditioning program wrong

Too many niggles and injuries at the wrong time 

Agreed. There was also an unfortunate, quite inadequate 'blooding' of players performing well at Casey, as well; this may have relocated (on the field) some of the under-performers to a different role ... or replaced them depending on how well the adaptation of younger players might have been ... but just the same, we were static so often across the season and towards the last few rounds, had no options for the injuries, drops in form, game plan modifications. Cripples, we were, physically, mentally and psychologically. Goodwin, get onto it before 2023 is a disappointment, as well.

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1 hour ago, Its Time for Another said:

A mate spoke to a players father who said we had 11 injured players playing in the finals.

Add to this the sense that 21 just rolled into 22 without enough of a break, both physically and mentally. Not to mention missing key players, especially McDonald and (effectively) Salem. But it was clear that players like Gawn, Langdon and Lever were carrying something, at least for the last part of the season.

It all adds up.

4 hours ago, Dees2014 said:

I think the recruitment of Grundy will force a change in game plan for the better. No team will be able to match up on it, especially if we also get Van Rooyan (sp?) firing up forward. Interesting time ahead…

Hmm, I see Grundy as a better short term option than Jackson so it might be that Goodwin is licking his lips saying 'now I can really see our strategy working'. He is to me quite stubborn so it wouldn't surprise if he tries to keep the same game plan but with better personnel.

And that would be a worry because teams picked apart our game plan this year. 9 times teams kicked more than 90 pts against us vs once in 2021

We were stagnant and predictable this year. Everyone knows we were beaten the same way. And if teams don't kick it long to Lever and May we aren't very good at defending.

Our record against Coll and Syd are atrocious.

I think it would be a big mistake not to evolve our game plan and introduce some flexibility into it. Grundy will give us options and I hope we build a suite of options for different scenarios

4 hours ago, Its Time for Another said:

A mate spoke to a players father who said we had 11 injured players playing in the finals. We know quite a few of them like Lingers for instance carried injuries for a lot of the season. Injuries can limit how much they can train which in turn eventually effects their ability to run out games. Might explain a lot. More likely explanation than Cats got conditioning right and we got it wrong. 

And that’s the coach and selectors fault. All year they refused to play Casey players. Goodwin and co cost us massively in the second half of the year. We looked flat, we looked crud yet nothing changed. It was dumb and must have been deflating for Casey players in form watching the seniors struggle.

1 hour ago, Gorgoroth said:

And that’s the coach and selectors fault. All year they refused to play Casey players. Goodwin and co cost us massively in the second half of the year. We looked flat, we looked crud yet nothing changed. It was dumb and must have been deflating for Casey players in form watching the seniors struggle.

The frustrating thing was Casey lost 1 game yet no changes made after losing our first final , Bedford sent a message 

On 11/6/2022 at 9:28 PM, Gawndy the Great said:

Recently bumped into a colleague who is chummy with one of the board members. When he spoke with him post season he mentioned that the players were over confident but that’s it. Doesn’t explain the lack of fitness and fade outs though.

Through no fault of the club due to lockdowns etc the December mcg celebrations just felt  as though the sesame just dragged on for too long 

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3 hours ago, Gorgoroth said:

Goodwin and co cost us massively in the second half of the year.

Yes, because playing players who had consistently failed at senior level was a sure-fire recipe for success.

1 hour ago, Demonsone said:

Through no fault of the club due to lockdowns etc the December mcg celebrations just felt  as though the sesame just dragged on for too long 

I’m of the same thought now - we never looked right all year. I suppose the upside is we still finished 2nd despite the clear fitness and injuries.

Heres hoping for a better preseason and renewed vigour and focus for 2023.