Your club's best 22

[WERRIDEE 5,471]

Your club's best 22 in 2023: Who's in, who's out, who's new (afl.com.au)

Not the team I'd have. I'd definitely have Bowey in the side ahead of Rivers but the rest is pretty close.

It's hard to see the Dees' line-up changing too dramatically but expect a few new faces in 2023. Melbourne brought in three seasoned players but it's unlikely all three will fit into its best 22. The injection of Brodie Grundy will fill the obvious second ruck void that Luke Jackson's departure left while also allowing Max Gawn to sit forward, or even be used as a marking option behind the ball. Lachie Hunter adds midfield depth but may struggle to break into the star-studded engine room, while Tom McDonald will return from the Lisfranc foot injury that sidelined him for the second half of the season. Although hampered by injury, Ben Brown was a long way off his best and will need to rediscover his mojo to keep his spot. Jacob Van Rooyen is knocking down the door after a sensational season in the VFL and would be expected to earn his spot as early as round one, while Bailey Laurie is another promising youngster waiting in the wings. Although his versatility allows him to play at either end, Josh Schache is unlikely to break into the 22 unless there's injuries, while Jake Melksham, Adam Tomlinson and James Jordon could also be unlucky as the team moves forward. – Alison O'Connor

B: Michael Hibberd, Steven May, Harrison Petty
HB: James Harmes, Jake Lever, Christian Salem
C: Angus Brayshaw, Clayton Oliver, Ed Langdon
HF: Kysaiah Pickett, Tom McDonald, Alex Neal-Bullen
F: Bayley Fritsch, Ben Brown, Max Gawn
Foll: Brodie Grundy, Christian Petracca, Jack Viney
I/C: Jacob Van Rooyen, Lachie Hunter, Trent Rivers, Tom Sparrow

Emerg: Jake Bowey, Charlie Spargo, Josh Schache, Bailey Laurie

[Guest]

19 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

Your club's best 22 in 2023: Who's in, who's out, who's new (afl.com.au)

Not the team I'd have. I'd definitely have Bowey in the side ahead of Rivers but the rest is pretty close.

Last week I saved this….

https://www.theinnersanctum.com.au/afl-your-clubs-way-too-early-best-23-for-2023/

… and was gonna ask you to tell us who you’d pick for best 22, but in every team, not just ours. Then I realised that’s a lot to ask of you. But if you do have a spare lifetime or two, I’d love to hear your thoughts. 

[WERRIDEE 5,471]

4 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Last week I saved this….

https://www.theinnersanctum.com.au/afl-your-clubs-way-too-early-best-23-for-2023/

… and was gonna ask you to tell us who you’d pick for best 22, but in every team, not just ours. Then I realised that’s a lot to ask of you. But if you do have a spare lifetime or two, I’d love to hear your thoughts. 

Yeah I'll have a look at it. Most are pretty spot on but I find it difficult to believe that Weideman couldn't get a game for basket case Essendon.

[WERRIDEE 5,471]

Hobbs and Grainger-Barass stiff to miss out also due to playing in very poor teams.

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

Hobbs and Grainger-Barass stiff to miss out also due to playing in very poor teams.

There was many different offerings in terms of every team’s best 22. They all differ of course but the core is basically the same. 

[58er 6,422]

17 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

Your club's best 22 in 2023: Who's in, who's out, who's new (afl.com.au)

Not the team I'd have. I'd definitely have Bowey in the side ahead of Rivers but the rest is pretty close.

My team is lining up differently

INS Bowey Turner 

OUTS   ANB Hibbo. 

Lever May Rivers

Brayshaw Turner Salem 

Langdon Pretracca  Hunter

Chandler  Petty  Fritsch

Pickett   Van Rooyen   T MacDonald. 

Gawn  Viney  Oliver

Int    Grundy Bowey Harmes Sparrow

Emerg     Neal-Bullen  Hibbard  Jordan Dunstan. 

Others   Schache  Laurie  Spargo Woewoden  Tomlinson  

Note  Very flexible lineup  if Goody only would use this to his advantage. 

    

 

[DemonWA 3,933]

18 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

Your club's best 22 in 2023: Who's in, who's out, who's new (afl.com.au)

Not the team I'd have. I'd definitely have Bowey in the side ahead of Rivers but the rest is pretty close.

I actually like that team IF fully fit. Not a bad effort by afl.com.au standards 

[Billy 2,529]

4 hours ago, 58er said:

My team is lining up differently

INS Bowey Turner 

OUTS   ANB Hibbo. 

Lever May Rivers

Brayshaw Turner Salem 

Langdon Pretracca  Hunter

Chandler  Petty  Fritsch

Pickett   Van Rooyen   T MacDonald. 

Gawn  Viney  Oliver

Int    Grundy Bowey Harmes Sparrow

Emerg     Neal-Bullen  Hibbard  Jordan Dunstan. 

Others   Schache  Laurie  Spargo Woewoden  Tomlinson  

Note  Very flexible lineup  if Goody only would use this to his advantage. 

    

 

Are you dropping Hibberd on his very good 2nd half of 2022 season or is it based on his age?

Do you understand ANBs role

Turner holding down CHB after 2 quarters played in 2022?

Not having a crack, just interested in your thoughts with these 3 players 

 

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23 minutes ago, Billy said:

Are you dropping Hibberd on his very good 2nd half of 2022 season or is it based on his age?

Do you understand ANBs role

Turner holding down CHB after 2 quarters played in 2022?

Not having a crack, just interested in your thoughts with these 3 players 

 

Backing Chandler in to do ANB’s role (and offer more when we are going forward).

Hibbo could be seen as stiff, but Bowey needs to find his way back in the team so we can add some tidy possession coming out of the back.

Turner in so we can see how well Petty could perform that Forward role we’ve desperately been trying to see. Also stiff on Turner - we have 3 Elite Keybacks so it was always going to be hard to find his way in. And his form at Casey has been superb. Backing him in to have a big preseason.

I don’t mind this team.

[old55 23,546]

23 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

Your club's best 22 in 2023: Who's in, who's out, who's new (afl.com.au)

Not the team I'd have. I'd definitely have Bowey in the side ahead of Rivers but the rest is pretty close.

It's hard to see the Dees' line-up changing too dramatically but expect a few new faces in 2023. Melbourne brought in three seasoned players but it's unlikely all three will fit into its best 22. The injection of Brodie Grundy will fill the obvious second ruck void that Luke Jackson's departure left while also allowing Max Gawn to sit forward, or even be used as a marking option behind the ball. Lachie Hunter adds midfield depth but may struggle to break into the star-studded engine room, while Tom McDonald will return from the Lisfranc foot injury that sidelined him for the second half of the season. Although hampered by injury, Ben Brown was a long way off his best and will need to rediscover his mojo to keep his spot. Jacob Van Rooyen is knocking down the door after a sensational season in the VFL and would be expected to earn his spot as early as round one, while Bailey Laurie is another promising youngster waiting in the wings. Although his versatility allows him to play at either end, Josh Schache is unlikely to break into the 22 unless there's injuries, while Jake Melksham, Adam Tomlinson and James Jordon could also be unlucky as the team moves forward. – Alison O'Connor

B: Michael Hibberd, Steven May, Harrison Petty
HB: James Harmes, Jake Lever, Christian Salem
C: Angus Brayshaw, Clayton Oliver, Ed Langdon
HF: Kysaiah Pickett, Tom McDonald, Alex Neal-Bullen
F: Bayley Fritsch, Ben Brown, Max Gawn
Foll: Brodie Grundy, Christian Petracca, Jack Viney
I/C: Jacob Van Rooyen, Lachie Hunter, Trent Rivers, Tom Sparrow

Emerg: Jake Bowey, Charlie Spargo, Josh Schache, Bailey Laurie

That's a pretty rubbish effort.

James Harmes has already failed at HB and won't be playing there.  The forward line is top heavy and there's at least one too many talls in the 22.  Lachie Hunter has arrived to play on the wing and Angus Brayshaw played HB and midfield last year.  Yes James Jordon is extremely unlucky not to make the best 26.

[DeeZone 9,821]

With the full list Fit and firing there are going to be 6-8 players that will need to be knocking the door down at Casey and that is not including who else we bring in during the draft.

Our regulars are-

May, Petty, Hibberd,  

Salem, Lever, Rivers    

Langdon, Petracca, Hunter 

ANB, TMac, Fritsch. 

Pickett, BB, Sparrow 

Gawn, Oliver, Viney.    

Grundy, Brayshaw, JJ, Harmes, Bowey

E: JvR, Spargo, Chandler, Turner, Dunstan, Melksham,Smith, Laurie, Schache, Tomlinson

if TMac and BB aren’t fit then JVR and Schache provide immediate cover. Turner and Tomlinson cover tall backs. Assumes that Hunter will take opposite wing to Langdon.

Edited October 23, 2022 by DeeZone
Hunter.

[radar 1,865]

Parkin said Premiership sides need to change by 5 for the next season. 
As much as we love our September heroes, we did seem to be trying to re-field our flag team each week. 
Pretty much our best team. 
 

Based on age - Hibberd, TMac and BB would be out. Unfair, I know but ol Father Time has first call. 
 

Who replaces those three? JVR would be one I imagine. Two more

Grundy for Jackson is easy. 
Who comes in,  who goes out as fifth?
X Factor? 
 

[adonski 12,057]

2 hours ago, radar said:

Parkin said Premiership sides need to change by 5 for the next season. 
As much as we love our September heroes, we did seem to be trying to re-field our flag team each week. 
Pretty much our best team. 
 

Based on age - Hibberd, TMac and BB would be out. Unfair, I know but ol Father Time has first call. 
 

Who replaces those three? JVR would be one I imagine. Two more

Grundy for Jackson is easy. 
Who comes in,  who goes out as fifth?
X Factor? 
 

Players who didn't play in the finals who would be expected to be best 22:

Grundy
Hunter
Bowey
JVR
Jordon

With Disco & Chandler the smokies 

Edited October 24, 2022 by adonski

[MadAsHell 4,212]

FB: Lever, May, Bowey

HB: Hibberd, Petty, Salem

C: Langdon, Petracca, Hunter

HF: Neal-Bullen, McDonald, Spargo

FF: Fritsch, Brown, Pickett 

FOLL: Gawn, Viney, Oliver 

INT: Brayshaw, Grundy, Harmes, Sparrow

EMERG: Jordon, Rivers, Turner, Van Rooyen

 

Pressure on the likes of Brown, Neal-Bullen and Spargo to hold their spots with the emergencies as well as Laurie, Howes, Dunstan and Pick 13 (Hollands??) keeping the pressure on for spots.

[spirit of norm smith 16,441]

21 hours ago, MadAsHell said:

FB: Lever, May, Bowey

HB: Hibberd, Petty, Salem

C: Langdon, Petracca, Hunter

HF: Neal-Bullen, McDonald, Spargo

FF: Fritsch, Brown, Pickett 

FOLL: Gawn, Viney, Oliver 

INT: Brayshaw, Grundy, Harmes, Sparrow

EMERG: Jordon, Rivers, Turner, Van Rooyen

 

Pressure on the likes of Brown, Neal-Bullen and Spargo to hold their spots with the emergencies as well as Laurie, Howes, Dunstan and Pick 13 (Hollands??) keeping the pressure on for spots.

I agree with this team.
 

Surely ANB and Spargo couldn’t have another poor year.  They had some glimpses but overall were very disappointing.   Goodie’s favourites so I agree they are likely to start round 1, but pressure should come from Chandler and Laurie for these 2 spots. 

[buck_nekkid 5,857]

I hope we are all surprised by the 22.  Given how formulaic and predictable we were i hope we see an upbeat addition to our generally sound style, with skills and speed added on every line. This would mean different talents used in different ways.  Our core remains, but i hope to see some new and younger faces demanding selection around the edges.  Only then will we keep up in ‘23.

[NeveroddoreveN 1,034]

FB: Lever, May, Rivers

HB: Salem, Turner, Brayshaw

C: Hunter, Oliver, Langdon

HF: Chandler, Van Rooyen, ANB

FF: Pickett, Petty, Fritsch

FOLL: Gawn, Viney, Petracca

INT: Grundy, Jordon, Bowey, Harmes

E: Sparrow, Spargo, Brown, McDonald, Hibberd

The type of team we would not realistically see round One....Hopefully at some stage during the year!

It "should" be a new year and all spots up for grabs. I expect Goodwin will stick with some of his faves, but will be forced into changes through some very ordinary performances from my listed emergencies.

There has to genuine pressure on all players to perform, i think after last year we will not wait so long "hoping" player X gains form. Injured or beaten up players to be rested.  Changes to winning sides is allowed!

[WERRIDEE 5,471]

Rolling 44

B: Lever, May, Hibberd

HB: Salem, Petty, Brayshaw

C: Langdon, Petracca, Hunter

HF: Neal-Bullen, McDonald, Pickett

F: Fritsch, Brown, Gawn

FOLL: Grundy, Oliver, Viney

IC: Harmes, Sparrow, Melksham, Bowey

EMERG: J.Smith, Jordon, Spargo, Chandler

 

Casey

B: D.Smith, Turner, J.Smith

HB: McVee, Tomlinson, Rivers

C: Howes, Dunstan, Woewodin

HF: Chandler, van Rooyen, Laurie

F: Moniz-Wakefield, Schache, Spargo

FOLL: Farris-White, Jordon, N\A

IC: N\A, N\A, N\A, N\A 

[titan_uranus 24,997]

I'm quite doubtful we'll go into any game next year with all of Gawn, Grundy, Brown, TMac and Van Rooyen playing (alongside May, Lever and Petty).

At least one of Brown/TMac/Van Rooyen misses.

[Caligula's cohort 1,014]

1sts

FB: - M.HIBBERD (186cm), - S.MAY (193cm), - J.LEVER (195cm)

HB:  - C.SALEM (183cm), - H.PETTY (197cm), - A.BRAYSHAW (187cm)

C: - E.LANGDON (182cm), - C.OLIVER (187cm), - L.HUNTER (182cm)

HF: - A.NEAL-BULLEN (182cm), - M.GAWN (208cm), - C.SPARGO (173cm)

FF: - B.FRITSCH (188cm), - T.McDONALD (194cm), - K.PICKETT (170cm)

RR: - B.GRUNDY (203cm), - C.PETRACCA (186cm), - J.VINEY (178cm)

INT: - B.BROWN (200cm), - J.MELKSHAM (186cm) , - J.HARMES (185cm), - T.RIVERS (188cm)

SUB: - T.SPARROW (182cm)

EMG: - J.VAN ROOYEN (194cm), - J.JORDON (186cm), - A.TOMLINSON (194cm), J.BOWEY (176cm)

 

2nds

FB: - J.McVEE (182cm), - A.TOMLINSON (194cm) , D.TURNER (192cm)

HB:  - J.BOWEY (176cm), - J.SMITH (191cm), - D.SMITH (179cm)

C:  - T.WOEWODIN (183cm), - L.DUNSTAN (184cm), - B.HOWES (190cm)

HF: - B.LAURIE (178cm), - J.SCHACHE (201cm), - (Draft pick)

FF: - A.MONIZ-WAKEFIELD (180cm), - J.VAN ROOYEN (194cm), - K.CHANDLER(174cm)

RR: - K. FARRIS-WHITE (206cm), - J.JORDON (186cm), - T.SPARROW (182cm)

INT: - (Draft picks or Delisted Free Agent x 4)

[deanox 9,912]

My best 22 here will all current listed players so you can see who is in or out.

I'm really not sure if they plan on starting both Gawn and Grundy on the field - they might but I would start one in the bench then bring on the other to create a mismatch. I also can't see us playing TMac, JVR and Brown with Gawn and Grundie in the team, so I've left Brown out to start.

Harmes is stiff, but he just doesn't have a position unless he is replacing Sparrow or Jordan (very possible). Spargo gets the nod over him as the only forward on the bench (especially with extra tall forwards, the flexibility is needed).

If there is a 5th on the bench I'm unsure if we'll go an extra tall (Brown) or a runner like Harmes.

We've got decent cover in most positions, but like most sides, 4-5 injuries will really test the quality of that depth.

 

 

B: Michael Hibberd, Steven May, Harrison Petty

HB: Angus Brayshaw, Jake Lever, Christian Salem

C: Lachie Hunter, Clayton Oliver, Ed Langdon

HF: Tom Sparrow, Tom McDonald, Alex Neal-Bullen

F: Bayley Fritsch, Jacob Van Rooyen, Kysaiah Pickett

Foll: Max Gawn, Christian Petracca, Jack Viney

I/C: Jake Bowey, James Jordan, Charlie Spargo, Brodie Grundy

 

Emergency from: Ben Brown, Kade Chandler, James Harmes, Trent Rivers, Jake Melksham, Daniel Turner, Joel Smith,

Development (potential games): Bailey Laurie, Blake Howes, Taj Wowoedin, draftees, 

Development Rookies: Kyah Farris-White, Andy Moniz Wakefield, Judd McVee, Deakyn Smith

Likely Backup Only: Josh Schache, Luke Dunstan, Adam Tomlinson

 

[Travy14 1,917]

FB:  Rivers,  May,  Bowie

HB:  Salem,  Petty,  Lever

C:  Hunter,  Brayshaw,  Langdon

HF:  Spargo,  T-Mac,  Pickett

FF:  Gawn,  Brown,  Fritsch 

Fol:  Grundy,  Oliver,  Petracca

Int:  Sparrow,  Viney,  Chandler,  ANB,  JVR*

* if interchange goes to 5

Emg:  Harmes,  Dunstan, Turner,  Hibbard

 

[Travy14 1,917]

On 10/30/2022 at 9:20 AM, titan_uranus said:

I'm quite doubtful we'll go into any game next year with all of Gawn, Grundy, Brown, TMac and Van Rooyen playing (alongside May, Lever and Petty).

At least one of Brown/TMac/Van Rooyen misses.

Agree, unless they are splitting the ruck 50/50 and not playing them fwd.  Which is doubtful