Hawks racism allegations (merged thread)

[Little Goffy 14,963]

19 hours ago, daisycutter said:

maybe we should all come back in 2 years' time and compare notes - lol

It is a bit like predicting player's careers on draft night at the moment.

12 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Let me introduce you to Brittany Higgins....

I'm not sure I understand your point?

[Stiff Arm 4,420]

Interesting that Cyril Rioli is amongst the complainants. Explains his reluctance to return to the club

[whatwhat say what 23,854]

Here’s the letter

[Willmoy1947 4,261]

Not looking very good for Hawthorn, and that goes for any Hawthorn Officials in the periods.

If the AFL think that this can be fobbed off into the sunset or even Tasmania they have got another disaster coming.

It could go on for ages as experience teaches us.

[Demonland 74,430]

 

[BoBo 2,956]

2 hours ago, Demonland said:

 

Huh, interesting. 
 

Clarkson leaves the game on mental health issues a couple of weeks before the investigatory panel is finished, then once it’s finished, a week later he’s in the fold to come back. 

[daisycutter 30,021]

1 hour ago, BoBo said:

Huh, interesting. 
 

Clarkson leaves the game on mental health issues a couple of weeks before the investigatory panel is finished, then once it’s finished, a week later he’s in the fold to come back. 

what's so interesting that you got the urge to post about it

know something we don't?

[Wizard of Koz 1,211]

I heard SEN pregame tonight where Brereton was fawning and fumbling over Buddy. Dermott, struggling with eloquence at the least, said that he was on the Hawthorn board at the time Buddy was drafted. They wanted Buddy and also had their eyes on Paddy Ryder.  He followed this up with what was meant to be a light hearted comment (*Paraphrasing) that the Hawks board had concerns that 2 boys from the West would not handle the Melbourne party life together. Along those lines. Easy to read between the lines where the Hawthorn board trust level was at. Dermott meant nothing sinister but it does give an insight into Hawthorn at the time during Clarksons early reign. Clumsy at best and if I was Andy Gowers now it might be worthwhile  implementing a PR strategy with ageing superstars in the media. Now probably isn't the time for such jokey retells.

Edited June 8, 2023 by Wizard of Koz
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[layzie 34,528]

I heard this too Koz. My first reaction was "I wonder if Dermott will be happy to hear that again" 

[Wizard of Koz 1,211]

9 minutes ago, layzie said:

I heard this too Koz. My first reaction was "I wonder if Dermott will be happy to hear that again" 

Gerard Whateley was quick to move on.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,468]

Buddy acclimatised pretty well if you believe the rumours (100 not out)

[Wizard of Koz 1,211]

59 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Buddy acclimatised pretty well if you believe the rumours (100 not out)

I dont think Brereton was insinuating the board were concerned that they might be bang friendly either. 

[layzie 34,528]

8 hours ago, Wizard of Koz said:

I dont think Brereton was insinuating the board were concerned that they might be bang friendly either. 

It was just really strange, Dermott can be bizarre at the best of times but I honestly thought he was about to state some list and structural related reasons as to why they didn't go with Ryder. Nek minnut he says they might like the nightlife too much and disrupt (or a word similar to disrupt) each other. 

I don't think Dermott is a racist but it does give you that little glimpse into the overall attitude at that time for HFC. 

[FireInTheBennelly 4,104]

On 6/1/2023 at 9:54 AM, Gawndy the Great said:

I dont think Russell Jackson (The reporter ) was the main issue - it was the individuals within the footy club (presumably) that leaked the details that are to blame here. Russell was just doing his job as a journo. One could question his ethics though as he would have presumably been made aware that the alleged had not been afforded the opportunity to provide their responses to the allegations within the review process and not have that play out in the media as it is not a thorough and fair process.

 

 

I may be wrong, but I thought I saw a statement from the ABC that the alleged had been given 3 opportunities to respond and they chose not to.

[Bitter but optimistic 22,289]

Author of Hawthorn racism report charged with fraud

The author of an incendiary report into alleged racism at Hawthorn Football Club has been charged with more than 70 fraud offences over allegations he siphoned hundreds of thousands of dollars from Murray Valley Aboriginal Co-operative.

Phil Egan, who played 125 games for Richmond between 1982 and 1990, was charged with 32 counts of obtaining financial advantage by deception, and 33 counts of using false documents by detectives from the financial crime squad.

[old dee 24,083]

Where does that leave the report? 

[Demonstone 23,573]

I'm not sure the fraud charges against Egan are of any relevance to the contents of the Hawthorn report.

[samcantstandya 1,079]

2 hours ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Author of Hawthorn racism report charged with fraud

The author of an incendiary report into alleged racism at Hawthorn Football Club has been charged with more than 70 fraud offences over allegations he siphoned hundreds of thousands of dollars from Murray Valley Aboriginal Co-operative.

Phil Egan, who played 125 games for Richmond between 1982 and 1990, was charged with 32 counts of obtaining financial advantage by deception, and 33 counts of using false documents by detectives from the financial crime squad.

Egan played 1 game for us, but happy for him to associated with Tigers especially if he's done shady stuff

[bobby1554 1,275]

There is absolutely no correlation between these fraud allegations and the report into racism by Egan. Let’s be in no doubt here, Clarkson and Fagan…hmm…no case to answer…..????

Edited August 3, 2023 by bobby1554

[Cranky Franky 2,270]

If the fraud charges against Egan are proved it would clearly undermine the report.

It would mean the report was written by someone with questionable credibility.