Dee Viney Intervention 2,025 Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Tracca said: We need a pack marking forward which BBB is not. we need someone ferocious in the air, which BBB is not, we need someone with some mongrel.... which BBB is not. I still dont rate him, hes got no strength for a 200cm forward, this however could be because of his knee, im not sure. Bang on. Herein lies the problem. Either you get personnel to suit your game style or you change the game style to suit your personnel. It’s not BBB’s fault we recruited him, although he could do with a big fat porterhouse. 5 1 Quote
dee-tox 4,835 Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 Cheap option no doubt but I don't mind it. Has good hands. 1 1 Quote
mo64 5,910 Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Tracca said: whilst I agree with you he is a lead up ff, our gamestyle is not and has not been for the past 2 years. We need a pack marking forward which BBB is not. we need someone ferocious in the air, which BBB is not, we need someone with some mongrel.... which BBB is not. I still dont rate him, hes got no strength for a 200cm forward, this however could be because of his knee, im not sure. Name some pack marking forwards in the AFL? Better still, name a club that relies on pack marking forwards. The 2 beasts of the comp in Lynch and Hawkins rely on one-on-one strength to beat their opponents. Our game-style worked in 2021, but better teams combatted it in 2022. It's up to the coaching dept to come up with a game-style that suits our list. 2 Quote
rpfc 29,019 Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 Most of the above salient posts should be in the Ben Brown thread. But our whole forward structure and how we move the ball needs to change. And that change may mean it’s suited to BBB. (I have my doubts with the Gawn FF future ominous for Brown) Quote
Tracca 862 Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 On 9/14/2022 at 6:32 PM, mo64 said: Name some pack marking forwards in the AFL? Better still, name a club that relies on pack marking forwards. The 2 beasts of the comp in Lynch and Hawkins rely on one-on-one strength to beat their opponents. Our game-style worked in 2021, but better teams combatted it in 2022. It's up to the coaching dept to come up with a game-style that suits our list. Harry McKay Aaron Naughton Tom Lynch Max King I could go on. Our game style has changed from last year we were a lot quicker into the forward line. I don't want to have Ben brown up forward and have to rely on perfect entry for him to take a mark. No one said about any team needing to rely on having a pack marking forward. I however want a forward who is 200cm tall to have some sort of ability to crash packs and take a contested mark from time to time, not run under the ball or literally have to two grab marks every opportunity he gets Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,677 Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 Corbett is a yes. Small change $$$ in our salary cap but importantly he’s a forward who knows how to kick goals. That’s what we need. We need players who WANT to kick goals, not pass off or handball to others but actually take on kicking goals. 3 Quote
Turner 1,516 Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Dee Viney Intervention said: Bang on. Herein lies the problem. Either you get personnel to suit your game style or you change the game style to suit your personnel. It’s not BBB’s fault we recruited him, although he could do with a big fat porterhouse. people forget BBB used to run 15kms a game at north he was a real workhorse in his prime and burnt his oppo going back to goal and then spinning them and coming back up at the leg. 29 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said: Corbett is a yes. Small change $$$ in our salary cap but importantly he’s a forward who knows how to kick goals. That’s what we need. We need players who WANT to kick goals, not pass off or handball to others but actually take on kicking goals. thoughts therefore on sexton? smaller but a lot craftier and generally doesnt miss a snap from within 30-35. 1 Quote
Lord Travis 10,817 Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 He’d be a good pickup for Casey to replace Mitch Brown. He wouldn’t do much for our AFL team though. 1 Quote
whatwhat say what 23,808 Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 Looks to be a pure depth acquisition Doesn’t hurt 2 Quote
Redleg 42,140 Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 If you look at him on the ground he doesn’t look 190cms. Quote
layzie 34,528 Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 11 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said: Corbett is a yes. Small change $$$ in our salary cap but importantly he’s a forward who knows how to kick goals. That’s what we need. We need players who WANT to kick goals, not pass off or handball to others but actually take on kicking goals. 100% We need someone with killer instinct, someone who dreams of kicking a goal and is always waiting for that next opportunity. Someone who if they miss a set shot can forget about it quickly and move on to the next one which they will dob through. Seems like a dying breed with everything else coming first and that part being figured out later these days. Quote
Superunknown 4,246 Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 14 hours ago, Dee Viney Intervention said: It’s not BBB’s fault we recruited him, although he could do with a big fat porterhouse. Lot of plant based super athletes here disprove that https://www.richroll.com/all-episodes/ 1 Quote
layzie 34,528 Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 16 minutes ago, Superunknown said: Lot of plant based super athletes here disprove that https://www.richroll.com/all-episodes/ Was going to say I don't think you'll catch BBB chowing down a steak anytime soon! Quote
MadAsHell 4,217 Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 23 hours ago, Demon Jack said: 190cm/90kg forward. Very much in the Fritsch/Gunston mold with a little more body strength. Have liked what I've seen from him in a few GC games I've watched over the last couple of years. He single handily tore Collingwood apart at the G a couple of seasons ago. Has a good pair of hands. I see him more in the Tim Membrey mould than Fritsch/Gunston. Capable of playing as a key forward due to his build and strong hands. 3 Quote
DeeSpencer 26,667 Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 3 hours ago, Redleg said: If you look at him on the ground he doesn’t look 190cms. Footballers really should be measured in height to the top of their shoulders plus arm length. Corbett could have a short neck and small head, he could be a big as a 195cm player in the way that matters! 1 Quote
DeeSpencer 26,667 Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 49 minutes ago, MadAsHell said: I see him more in the Tim Membrey mould than Fritsch/Gunston. Capable of playing as a key forward due to his build and strong hands. Poor man’s Membrey is exactly what Corbett is. He’s undersized and predominantly hits up at CHF. The right type of tall if you’re playing a ruck and another tall deep as the Saints usually do. 3 Quote
monoccular 17,758 Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 On 9/14/2022 at 3:46 PM, Yarra Valley Demon said: I really rate Josh Corbett, he's the right age, good for his size and a decent kick we could pick up for a good trade. Let's not forget Jason Dunstall was only 188cms, so height isn't everything. BBB did what we needed and helped win us our first flag in 57 years, even with injury clouding his performance. A solid preseason should get him right hopefully. Jason of course had a midfield and half forwards who could deliver to a lead - if only …… 1 Quote
BAMF 4,479 Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 30 minutes ago, monoccular said: Jason of course had a midfield and half forwards who could deliver to a lead - if only …… That was also 40 years ago when defenders were only 188cm too. Quote
layzie 34,528 Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 13 hours ago, monoccular said: Jason of course had a midfield and half forwards who could deliver to a lead - if only …… He was such a great leader to the ball carrier as well. The number of times he'd start shoulder to shoulder with the defender and end up 3 or 4 metres in front of them by the time the kick came in, sublime. Quote
monoccular 17,758 Posted September 16, 2022 Posted September 16, 2022 On 9/15/2022 at 8:25 AM, Redleg said: If you look at him on the ground he doesn’t look 190cms. Taller, or shorter? (I have never seen him). Quote
Redleg 42,140 Posted September 16, 2022 Posted September 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, monoccular said: Taller, or shorter? (I have never seen him). Shorter. Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,677 Posted September 17, 2022 Posted September 17, 2022 If Corbett was available and interested, Dees would have a conversation. He’d be reasonably cheap and with our number of inside50s (and better delivery) he is a good mark and could be a good pickup. 2 Quote
56 Years of Hell 4 Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 Is our interest possibly as a reinvented winger? He is the Suns best runner over 2km and from what I found also recorded their third top speed in 2020. His kicking efficiency this season was rated as elite. Can also take a mark and kick a few which could make him quite dangerous. 1 Quote
layzie 34,528 Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 1 hour ago, 56 Years of Hell said: Is our interest possibly as a reinvented winger? He is the Suns best runner over 2km and from what I found also recorded their third top speed in 2020. His kicking efficiency this season was rated as elite. Can also take a mark and kick a few which could make him quite dangerous. Sounds like Tomlinson but with marking and kicking ability! Quote
deespicable me 1,584 Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 On 9/14/2022 at 8:06 PM, Tracca said: Harry McKay Aaron Naughton Tom Lynch Max King I could go on. Our game style has changed from last year we were a lot quicker into the forward line. I don't want to have Ben brown up forward and have to rely on perfect entry for him to take a mark. No one said about any team needing to rely on having a pack marking forward. I however want a forward who is 200cm tall to have some sort of ability to crash packs and take a contested mark from time to time, not run under the ball or literally have to two grab marks every opportunity he gets If you go back across the VFL year and put together a highlights package on Van Rooyen not knowing his background, I think many on here would be drooling over him. And he's already on our list. His output was comparable to Hogan in his year and with another pre-season in the gym he will hit the ground in round 1 at approx 105kg and an appetite for senior footy. He should play 15 plus games next year with at least 5 of those where he will be a liability, but we have to play him next year to develop him properly. All discussions about our forward line should I think take him into account. 1 Quote
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