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Cal Twomey has reported on AFL.com that we're one of few clubs who have shown interest in Lloyd Meek.

This makes a whole lot more sense from a $$ point of view and potentially not giving up a first round pick like its been suggested for Grundy.

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4 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Cal Twomey has reported on AFL.com that we're one of few clubs who have shown interest in Lloyd Meek.

This makes a whole lot more sense from a $$ point of view and potentially not giving up a first round pick like its been suggested for Grundy.

Irrespective of what needs to be given up the real question is whether he is an AFL footballer - from the little bit I've seen the answer is no

Having said that if our FD thinks he is up to it then I'm happy to defer to their judgement

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Twomey also says:  "The Dockers do not want to trade Meek even if they land Jackson to partner ruck star Sean Darcy, but the Jackson situation has seen other clubs look at Meek as a potential pick-up". 

It could be posturing but they don't want to trade anyone but have been trying to entice players from other clubs to join them when they have little trade currency.

Other teams mentioned with interest in Meek are GWS and Eagles.

That he is a Victorian puts us a bit ahead.

Even if Jackson stays I wouldn't mind getting Meek.  Most clubs have at least 3 ruckman on their lists.

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Like many 3rd string ruckmen around the league, it's hard to set the world on fire. Meek is never going to get a gig ahead of a Darcy/Lobb combination. Still hasn't reached the prime age for a ruckman.

Agree with DD, he's a much better fit in all respects than Grundy. He can learn his craft from Max, while Max continues to be our no.1 ruckman. The notion of Max playing 2nd fiddle to Grundy is nonsensical.

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5 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Twomey also says:  "The Dockers do not want to trade Meek even if they land Jackson to partner ruck star Sean Darcy, but the Jackson situation has seen other clubs look at Meek as a potential pick-up". 

It could be posturing but they don't want to trade anyone but have been trying to entice players from other clubs to join them when they have little trade currency.

Other teams mentioned with interest in Meek are GWS and Eagles.

That he is a Victorian puts us a bit ahead.

Even if Jackson stays I wouldn't mind getting Meek.  Most clubs have at least 3 ruckman on their lists.

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Fremantle are a joke - don't want to trade a player that can't get a regular game in the 1's - don't have any decent picks to trade but still want to attract players from other clubs to join them 

Dream on ! 

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5 minutes ago, Sydee said:

Fremantle are a joke - don't want to trade a player that can't get a regular game in the 1's - don't have any decent picks to trade but still want to attract players from other clubs to join them 

Dream on ! 

all down to Peter Bell - small man syndrome

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Pretty sure he debuted against us Round 1 last year and surprisingly gave Gawn a bit of trouble.

From that and the WAFL highlights (I know) someone posted on here a few months back I think he could be a bit of a diamond in the rough.  People seem to forget that you can only play max two ruckmen and so if there is more than that on a list then some won't get a chance to prove themselves.

There was a period there where we had Jamar and the backup was a topup between Spencer, Martin and Gawn.  Gawn was not really a standout until that game against Geelong. 

With the success our ruckmen have had at other clubs, we should know this better than most.

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7 minutes ago, deelusions from afar said:

People seem to forget that you can only play max two ruckmen and so if there is more than that on a list then some won't get a chance to prove themselves.

Our game plan is built around 2 ruckman.  We can cover the odd short absence with pinch hitters like TMcD or Weidmena but if one of our two main ruckman have a lengthy injury where do we get the other ruckman from...

I would venture to say that if we still had Daw we may have given Max or Jackson a rest at some stage late in the season.

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17 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Our game plan is built around 2 ruckman.  We can cover the odd short absence with pinch hitters like TMcD or Weidmena but if one of our two main ruckman have a lengthy injury where do we get the other ruckman from...

I would venture to say that if we still had Daw we may have given Max or Jackson a rest at some stage late in the season.

What about a separate Interchange or Sub bench for Rucks ?

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Just now, Abyssal said:

What about a separate Interchange or Sub bench for Rucks ?

That might be a bridge too far.

But I recall a discussion around adding a B rookie type category so clubs can carry an extra ruckman or two on their list.  It ididn't go anywhere.

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1 hour ago, Jontee said:

Age 24, from out Ballarat way, 203cm and 109 kgs. Pick 69 in the 2017 draft.  Hasn't set the house on fire.

Had an excellent debut game against Gawn last year. That will stick in Goody's mind.

Playing consistently well at WAFL level this year. Hard for a young ruck to crack it onto a team on the up with Darcy and Lobb ahead of him

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Contests well, takes a grab and has similar ability below the knees. Just doesn't have anywhere near the mobility of Jackson. Having said that we could do a lot worse, if the FD thinks there's something to work with there I'd consider it for sure. 

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3 minutes ago, layzie said:

Contests well, takes a grab and has similar ability below the knees. Just doesn't have anywhere near the mobility of Jackson. Having said that we could do a lot worse, if the FD thinks there's something to work with there I'd consider it for sure. 

If Jackson is leaving, I'd much rather take a punt on him and use the picks / cap space to attract the best key forward we can.  And if we can't get one, at least bring in some talented youngsters - ideally a young key forward and maybe some outside class for the midfield.

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We found with Preuss it just isnt worth chasing a ruck that is not close to best 22 when all are available. If we are going to get a 24 year old ruck he must be a positive in conjunction with Max, not just as a stand by.

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1 hour ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Other teams mentioned with interest in Meek are GWS and Eagles.

Interesting that GWS are interested when they have Preuss, Flynn and Briggs on their list.  Probably not looking good for at least one of the last two named.   Seems also to confirm perhaps that West Coast aren't interested in Jackson. 

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Meek’s big and combative in ruck contests, and has good athleticism for a big ruck. Obviously not Jacko level but he contribute on the deck. Marking/kicking not his strong suit so far at afl level. But without a long term starting chance it’s hard to know how that will develop.

If we’re convinced by Gawn forward then he’s a realistic opportunity as a cheap alternative to Grundy.

If we think Gawn will ruck at least 50% then I don’t know how Meek gets convinced to come to us, apart from the obvious that he’s better off here than Freo behind Darcy and Jacko. If I’m Meek I’m taking the Eagles offer and taking over from Nic Nat. But as long as the price isn’t over the top for a back up I’m definitely interested.

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I'm keen to get Meek if Jackson goes (compared to the price tag, age and injury risk of Grundy who admittedly has a high ceiling).

But @Damo makes a good point re two big immobile ruckman.

I find it interesting that Mason Cox in recent weeks only plays as the second ruck and is not given time up forward.  Mason Cox is not a natural forward but has managed to take us apart a number of times and we all remember the richmond 2018 prelim.  Clearly McCrae see Cox as too much of a liability to their forwardline once the ball hits the ground.  I think we have noticed this with Gawn and Brown in the same forward line.

I guess that's the argument against getting someone like Meek in to play with Gawn.  If Tmac/JVR can force Brown out of the team next year maybe this is less of an issue.

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