Finals 2022: Week 02

[Wells 11 4,704]

41 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

I’m jealous watching Collingwood play such an attacking brand and going deeper into September than us despite an inferior list. After years of waiting for finals at the G again, watching us live the past two weeks was torture. We really need a gamestyle adjustment over summer or we’ll waste our window.

Credit where credit is due hey. They’ve revolutionised the way the game is played this year and their corridor at all costs is genuinely exciting to watch. Kinda hurts to see the pies being good again,  but they are. 

Re your comment though about them having an “ inferior” list. After watching them tonight  I’m just not sure they actually do. They have a lot of hard running, elite ball users that we don’t have and they play to that strength.  They also have some kind of eveness in their inside grunt and outside speed we don’t possess as well. 

[dees189227 10,768]

I just don't want Howe or ginnivan anywhere near gf day. 

[JimmyGadson 3,455]

1 minute ago, Wells 11 said:

Credit where credit is due hey. They’ve revolutionised the way the game is played this year and their corridor at all costs is genuinely exciting to watch. Kinda hurts to see the pies being good again,  but they are. 

Re your comment though about them having an “ inferior” list. After watching them tonight  I’m just not sure they actually do. They have a lot of hard running, elite ball users that we don’t have and they play to that strength.  They also have some kind of eveness in their inside grunt and outside speed we don’t possess as well. 

Agree.

Thinking our list is superior is silly. Our midfield group is superior and that's where it stops. 

They're a far more even side and have a fantastic spread of attribute diversity across all lines.

They also have a much better coaching group. Leppa, Bolton and Mcrae.

Our game-plan and system won us a flag, we need to change a fair bit up if we want to see a dynasty.
 

 

[dees189227 10,768]

If you were told at the start of the season Collingwood will advance further than us in September this year there is no way you'd believe it.

I feel sick 

[Nascent 7,243]

So Geelong, Sydney, Collingwood or Brisbane.

Hope Sydney take it out.

[dees189227 10,768]

Dam you freo. You are the only team I wanted to win

[titan_uranus 22,351]

We obsessed on here over whether 2018 was an "aberration" for us.

I think it's abundantly clear 2021 was Collingwood's "aberration". Won finals in 2018 (a few minutes away from a flag), 2019 and 2020. Fell to pieces in 2021, but back at it in 2022.

9 of the 2018 GF side played for them tonight, with another two (Adams and Grundy) still on the list. 13 of the 2020 semi final side played. So they have a core of 9-13 players who were winning finals for three years, fell away last year, added some key youth (N Daicos, Ginnivan, Cameron) and bounced back to where they probably always should have been. Their side this week is precisely the same average as as ours, but with an average of 14 games per player less experience.

But on here, no one talks about that, all we get is "they were 17th last year".

The other interesting thing about Collingwood is that they won most of their H&A games despite being well beaten in most key stats, but in their two finals they've lifted in CPs, clearances, time in forward half, etc. They got in off the back of a lot of luck, but they played well last week and won tonight off the back of a style of game that is far more durable.

[DeeZee 6,732]

I look at the level of intensity, collingwood played at tonight , and ditto the swans last week and the lions in the second half, and we just didn’t have that same gut busting desire at all this year. It was like we were saving ourselves for the finals , but we played below our best so often this year it became the norm.

[Clintosaurus 6,432]

HQ be very happy with the prelim teams. Dangerflag v Bud or Pies in the GF.

Pies not an amazing rise as some claim. Tanked last year for Daicos draft points. Finals 3 years before, and after.

Edited September 10, 2022 by Clintosaurus

[Edward Langdon 91]

8 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

We obsessed on here over whether 2018 was an "aberration" for us.

I think it's abundantly clear 2021 was Collingwood's "aberration". Won finals in 2018 (a few minutes away from a flag), 2019 and 2020. Fell to pieces in 2021, but back at it in 2022.

9 of the 2018 GF side played for them tonight, with another two (Adams and Grundy) still on the list. 13 of the 2020 semi final side played. So they have a core of 9-13 players who were winning finals for three years, fell away last year, added some key youth (N Daicos, Ginnivan, Cameron) and bounced back to where they probably always should have been. Their side this week is precisely the same average as as ours, but with an average of 14 games per player less experience.

But on here, no one talks about that, all we get is "they were 17th last year".

The other interesting thing about Collingwood is that they won most of their H&A games despite being well beaten in most key stats, but in their two finals they've lifted in CPs, clearances, time in forward half, etc. They got in off the back of a lot of luck, but they played well last week and won tonight off the back of a style of game that is far more durable.

Spot on.

The longer the season went on, it became abundantly clear that 2021 was an aberration for Collingwood. An exception to the rule. In fact I could see signs as early as their comprehensive round 2 win against Adelaide that they were going to be shooting right back up the ladder.

However, the media will keep feeding us the narrative that they came from absolutely nowhere to make a prelim.

[dees189227 10,768]

The thing is Collingwood have a massive massive chance to knock off Sydney. They travel well and there confidence is sky high.

But hopefully next week we will know that it will be a swans lions gf. 

I don't think I could stand a gf week of Collingwood & even Collingwood geelong 

[Jaded No More 57,820]

Hurts even more that we are the only side who finished top 4 and didn’t make prelim. Poor effort. 

[Wrecker46 2,654]

How come Collingwood are allowed to corell players when they are standing on the mark? 

If we take half a step off the mark it is a 50m penalty.

 

[layzie 28,721]

11 hours ago, dees189227 said:

I just don't want Howe or ginnivan anywhere near gf day. 

Crisp needs to be taken out as well.

[Willmoy1947 3,772]

23 minutes ago, Wrecker46 said:

How come Collingwood are allowed to corell players when they are standing on the mark? 

If we take half a step off the mark it is a 50m penalty.

 

Agree with this, they run two players on to each mark and one drifts off meaning the maggot can pay a 50 but not sure who to pay it to, it distracts him, at the same time the opposition player with the kick is hemmed into not handballing or kicking into play on anywhere nearly as quickly as possible.

By the way they are the only team that consistently goes over the mark, no penalty and pretends it's because of slowing down from too much speed.

Each week taking yards on marks at or around the 50mtr arc, off any opposition, will cost that team majors. Even the maggots don't know that it's going on.

[Willmoy1947 3,772]

After our record breaking wins in the finals last year I would think that  teams like Geelong and Footscray would have met with the AFL to discuss secretly  how to stop this sort of one sided non public appealing type footy Final matches could be stopped with a little help from their friends and it has worked.The Media and Head Maggots know about it.Lets just see if that rattles some cages??

[Clintosaurus 6,432]

40 minutes ago, Wrecker46 said:

How come Collingwood are allowed to corell players when they are standing on the mark? 

If we take half a step off the mark it is a 50m penalty.

 

Cos the umps have been their friends all season. Plus the ferals in the crowd boo so much the umps get spooked.