38 minutes ago, Wrecker46 said:

Slightly better than if they bought Bomber Thompson back.

Oh yeah there's another credible coach with experience they should consider. 

2 hours ago, Demonstone said:

Why would we get rid of a coach that has just won four Premierships in a row?

Because a coach who's Premierships are plentiful is less likely to want another one than one who's Premiership supplies are low.

On 8/22/2022 at 6:36 PM, Lucifers Hero said:

From The Age:

"Sources said Melbourne assistant coach Adem Yze was slightly ahead in the Giants thinking until final presentations last week, when Kingsley turned their heads with an impressive final display. A Giants source said Kingsley continued to impress them more each time they met with him".

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And history is littered with coaches that had a great Powerpoint presentation that swayed the selection committee. One name come to mind Mark Neeld. I remember another occasion an applicant missed out when his computer stalled and he couldn't deliver his Powerpoint presentation. I think the bells and whistles and a good audiovisual don't make you a great coach. 

11 minutes ago, Older demon said:

And history is littered with coaches that had a great Powerpoint presentation that swayed the selection committee. One name come to mind Mark Neeld. I remember another occasion an applicant missed out when his computer stalled and he couldn't deliver his Powerpoint presentation. I think the bells and whistles and a good audiovisual don't make you a great coach. 

I was gonna say the same thing!

Yze was in front right until the last minute when Kingsley walked in and nailed the handshake with a nice, firm grip. On lookers said they had never seen a final interview day handshake like it but that was not all! His laptop started up in 15 seconds, an AFL record. This all paved the way for his super smooth PowerPoint presentation which in addition to the new clicker he bought specially, referenced the words: 'process, system, outcomes, growth, and metrics' a million times and then showed a diagram of the best way to make it from the cafeteria to the training ground for training. 

Needless to say after that, it was a done deal.

Edited August 25, 20222 yr by layzie

For what it's worth I think Lyon will coach EFC...

If they get all the housecleaning done in the next few weeks then there could be a good opportunity there.

Part of the housekeeping would be to move Sheedy off the board, but maybe that is too big an ask.

Adem should have a good look if the opportunity presented for him.

...as much as I would hate to see him coach them.

2 hours ago, rjay said:

For what it's worth I think Lyon will coach EFC...

If they get all the housecleaning done in the next few weeks then there could be a good opportunity there.

Part of the housekeeping would be to move Sheedy off the board, but maybe that is too big an ask.

Adem should have a good look if the opportunity presented for him.

...as much as I would hate to see him coach them.

They cannot take a first time Coach

It won’t happen, unless the job gets turned down by everyone!!

6 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

They cannot take a first time Coach

It won’t happen, unless the job gets turned down by everyone!!

They can do what they want...

Personally I think a first time coach with experience is what they need. Adem fits the bill.

...but, they must get the off field stuff together.

They have started the purge, will they have the fortitude to go all the way.

From the outside looking in there are 2 political players that need moving on.

Barham is well regarded & might just pull things together.

Remember recent history where both Collingwood & Carlton seemed in disarray prior to the start of this season.

6 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

They cannot take a first time Coach

It won’t happen, unless the job gets turned down by everyone!!

If you look at the premierships of the last 15 years or so the vast majority are 'first time coaches'.

It's more about the development and experience before taking the top job, Yze has that in spades now.

1 hour ago, Lord Nev said:

If you look at the premierships of the last 15 years or so the vast majority are 'first time coaches'.

It's more about the development and experience before taking the top job, Yze has that in spades now.

Bombers are in a different category 

it has nothing to do with Adem’s situation. They have killed off too many first up Coaches since the Drugs were rife

1 hour ago, rjay said:

They can do what they want...

Personally I think a first time coach with experience is what they need. Adem fits the bill.

...but, they must get the off field stuff together.

They have started the purge, will they have the fortitude to go all the way.

From the outside looking in there are 2 political players that need moving on.

Barham is well regarded & might just pull things together.

Remember recent history where both Collingwood & Carlton seemed in disarray prior to the start of this season.

A first up Coach with experience is not experienced enough to Coach Essendrug 

14 hours ago, Kent said:

yes perhaps that's a lil over reach but hey why not?

/Would love Yze to coach the dees!

I'd rather the best person for the job and the current bloke is the premiership coach.

3 minutes ago, A F said:

I'd rather the best person for the job and the current bloke is the premiership coach.

Yes agreed I'm meaning in few years?

3 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

If you look at the premierships of the last 15 years or so the vast majority are 'first time coaches'.

It's more about the development and experience before taking the top job, Yze has that in spades now.

It's also about supporting the first time coach, and allowing them to grow into the role. Thompson, Clarkson, Hardwick and Goodwin weren't overnight sensations.

It would be hard for the remaining Essendon board members to go with a first time coach because they pulled the rug under Rutten. The board members and CEO who supported Rutten have resigned.

57 minutes ago, mo64 said:

It's also about supporting the first time coach, and allowing them to grow into the role. Thompson, Clarkson, Hardwick and Goodwin weren't overnight sensations.

Yep absolutely, and all those coaches (Scott would be an exclusion given his first year) had their times when their jobs were in jeopardy somewhat.

57 minutes ago, mo64 said:

It would be hard for the remaining Essendon board members to go with a first time coach because they pulled the rug under Rutten. The board members and CEO who supported Rutten have resigned.

Maybe. I don't think that just because Rutten didn't work that every other 'first time coach' wouldn't work as well. For mine, more about getting one who has gone through all the training and processes, has experience and success, and then making sure they get the best they can to surround them with in terms of assistants, list management, footy boss etc etc.

14 hours ago, rjay said:

For what it's worth I think Lyon will coach EFC...

If they get all the housecleaning done in the next few weeks then there could be a good opportunity there.

Part of the housekeeping would be to move Sheedy off the board, but maybe that is too big an ask.

Adem should have a good look if the opportunity presented for him.

...as much as I would hate to see him coach them.

They deserve each other. What a pain that man is. His mate Eddie isn’t going too is he?

4 hours ago, Kent said:

Yes agreed I'm meaning in few years?

Where's Goody going in a few years?

I really hope yze doesn't coach Essendon. 

5 hours ago, Kent said:

Yes agreed I'm meaning in few years?

Hopefully longer than 2 though 

7 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Bombers are in a different category 

it has nothing to do with Adem’s situation. They have killed off too many first up Coaches since the Drugs were rife

Spot on. The lack of respect for Rutten by the players was appalling. The players will eat another first-time coach alive. Need an experienced coach who will bring the players into line. The players won’t respond to a first-time coach attempting to bring them into line. 

Edited August 26, 20222 yr by Ethan Tremblay

5 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Spot on. The lack of respect for Rutten by the players was appalling. The players will eat another first-time coach alive. Need an experienced coach who will bring the players into line. The players won’t respond to a first-time coach attempting to bring them into line. 

neeldy will sort that nonsense out, ethan

18 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Spot on. The lack of respect for Rutten by the players was appalling. The players will eat another first-time coach alive. Need an experienced coach who will bring the players into line. The players won’t respond to a first-time coach attempting to bring them into line. 

I also feel a fair few of those Essendon players are bathwater drinkers. They need someone who will tell them to look in the mirror and pity the fool they see before them.

12 minutes ago, layzie said:

I also feel a fair few of those Essendon players are bathwater drinkers. They need someone who will tell them to look in the mirror and pity the fool they see before them.

I really don't want Yze to coach Essendon:

1. He is probably going to be a very good senior coach. I don't want that for Essendon.

2. Essendon's culture will greatly damage his opportunity to succeed as a coach. I don't want that for Yze.

3. I do want Yze for Melbourne and I dream of a smooth future succession taking place at a time when we have several premiership stars in their veteran years to support the growth of a new generation under a new coach.

I reckon the lack of respect here for Goody is pretty poor.

Why do we ever need Yze to take over? Why couldn't Goody leave when he's grey and old, ala Ferguson at Man United?

I'd love Yze to stay at the MFC, but if he wants to become a senior coach, he needs to go elsewhere.