What's next for Adem Yze?

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

There is no one really else left in the mix. With Ross Lyon and Leon Cameron backing out, you'd have to be thinking why would experienced coaches be pulling out of the process. 

The Bombers have publically said before they will target an experienced senior AFL coach and going with Yze will make them look silly and their supporter base will not be happy with the appointment. 

You'd give Yze every chance to be successful, but you would have to question his desperation to become a senior coach at all costs and a club on its knees. 

[layzie 33,794]

16 minutes ago, CYB said:

There is no one really else left in the mix. With Ross Lyon and Leon Cameron backing out, you'd have to be thinking why would experienced coaches be pulling out of the process. 

The Bombers have publically said before they will target an experienced senior AFL coach and going with Yze will make them look silly and their supporter base will not be happy with the appointment. 

You'd give Yze every chance to be successful, but you would have to question his desperation to become a senior coach at all costs and a club on its knees. 

It might make them look silly in the short term but you can PR BS your way out of that crap pretty easily like a politician. 

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,503]

I wouldn’t go near that place.  They are completely trapped in the Sheedy/Hird era and the factions will undermine any ‘outsider’ that comes along.

Anyone good enough to get a senior coaching role there, is good enough to get one somewhere else.  

[Mr Steve 3,820]

BREAKING: James Hird has officially put his hand up for the Essendon coaching job, reports Mark Robinson.

 

[rpfc 28,385]

5 minutes ago, Mr Steve said:

BREAKING: James Hird has officially put his hand up for the Essendon coaching job, reports Mark Robinson.

 

Adem should now withdraw, no newbie coach will have a handicap from the start even if they won it - the spectre of Hird is a ‘board movement’ away.

[Sir Why You Little 37,033]

11 minutes ago, Mr Steve said:

BREAKING: James Hird has officially put his hand up for the Essendon coaching job, reports Mark Robinson.

 

Marvellous!!!

[Soidee 1,496]

Hird would not put his hand up without a really good wink wink nod nod!  If that club goes with Hird they have learnt nothing.  Steeped in the past and arrogant beyond belief.  Ooze should give them a wide berth!

[DubDee 25,848]

15 minutes ago, Mr Steve said:

BREAKING: James Hird has officially put his hand up for the Essendon coaching job, reports Mark Robinson.

 

Best news ever! Just sit back and enjoy the show all!

 

[Lord Nev 13,512]

 

[dazzledavey36 54,865]

Please, please, pleeeeeasee pick James hard just for thr LOL's

[rjay 24,917]

47 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

 

I think Adem would be great appointment for EFC.

...but with Sheedy still on the board and Hird wanting in it might not be in Adem's best interest.

Interesting times for the coaching sub committee also.

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

54 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

 

If that’s the case we have the right coach to rectify the out of date game plan for 2023. 
 

Now we just have to get rid of Goodwin. I wonder if Hirdy wants his old senior coach back. 

[layzie 33,794]

4 hours ago, Mr Steve said:

BREAKING: James Hird has officially put his hand up for the Essendon coaching job, reports Mark Robinson.

 

Robbo you beauty!

I don't care if Essendon haven't learned, just get this done.

[dee-tox 4,835]

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Please, please, pleeeeeasee pick James hard just for thr LOL's

Hird might be the shot in the arm the Bombers need!

[Older demon 2,741]

I hope Yze stays at Melbourne and is groomed as part of Goodwin's succession plan. All coaches have a finite time even premiership-winning ones. My question is what is the contract status of our existing coaching group? It is customary for coaches to shuffle each year and have a new role. The last few years have been difficult with the capping of support staff and I hope the club can spend more and rather than pot the existing coaches maybe the resources are a bit thin and the things that drive us crazy are due to less coaches.

Geelong cleaned out a lot of long-term, who knows what is correct. assistants and the Pies restructured their entire coaching staff

[Lucifers Hero 39,746]

2 hours ago, Older demon said:

I hope Yze stays at Melbourne and is groomed as part of Goodwin's succession plan. All coaches have a finite time even premiership-winning ones. My question is what is the contract status of our existing coaching group? It is customary for coaches to shuffle each year and have a new role. The last few years have been difficult with the capping of support staff and I hope the club can spend more and rather than pot the existing coaches maybe the resources are a bit thin and the things that drive us crazy are due to less coaches.

Geelong cleaned out a lot of long-term, who knows what is correct. assistants and the Pies restructured their entire coaching staff

I'm guessing the assistant coaches are on 3 year contracts but don't know when they were written/updated.  Goodwin renewed until the end of 2024.

I think we are one year ahead of Geelong and Collingwood.  We overhauled our FD at end of 2020.  In particular Josh Mahoney left replaced by Richardson and we got in Williams and Yze to replace a few inexperienced coaches.  Radford went from Casey Coach to Opposition Strategy and Education.  All of which gave Goodwin much stronger support which had been lacking.

The constants were:  Goodwin, Chaplin and Stafford. 

The team is very capable (they delivered a flag) and if we were to change maybe let Stafford revert to ruck/stoppage coach and get a Forward coach.  Interestingly we haven't had a forward coach who played as or previously coached forwards, for the last 10 years.  The soft cap goes up next year so we may see an addition to the coaching staff.

Edited September 15, 2022 by Lucifers Hero

[dazzledavey36 54,865]

17 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Please, please, pleeeeeasee pick James hard just for thr LOL's

*Hird 🤦‍♂️

[Sir Why You Little 37,033]

8 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

*Hird 🤦‍♂️

Over excitement?

[Lucifers Hero 39,746]

It seems both Jobe and Tim Watson are anti Hird's return to the club. 

Jobe spoke against it when Rutten was exited:  "Former Essendon captain Jobe Watson has urged the crisis-riddled Bombers to avoid the temptation of chasing a quick-fix saviour, saying the possible return of James Hird to the coaching role would not work".

Tim has said "Essendon do not need a saviour" and "I think for a lot of people it would drag back all those things that happened during that period of time that he was there as coach,” Watson said.  “I’d be more than surprised if he ended being the coach of the Essendon Football Club, but I’m happy for him to be part of the process and for him to have the courage to put his hand up and even go through it".

Looks like Watson snr is the leader/spokesperson of the anti-Hird for coach camp. 

Robbo the cheerleader for Hird.

Of all people Jobe and Tim would know exactly what went on during the drug saga and would have good reason to strongly speak against Hird as coach.

Edited September 15, 2022 by Lucifers Hero

[IRW 1,387]

26 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

It seems both Jobe and Tim Watson are anti Hird's return to the club. 

Jobe spoke against it when Rutten was exited:  "Former Essendon captain Jobe Watson has urged the crisis-riddled Bombers to avoid the temptation of chasing a quick-fix saviour, saying the possible return of James Hird to the coaching role would not work".

Tim has said "Essendon do not need a saviour" and "I think for a lot of people it would drag back all those things that happened during that period of time that he was there as coach,” Watson said.  “I’d be more than surprised if he ended being the coach of the Essendon Football Club, but I’m happy for him to be part of the process and for him to have the courage to put his hand up and even go through it".

Looks like Watson snr is the leader/spokesperson of the anti-Hird for coach camp. 

Robbo the cheerleader for Hird.

Of all people Jobe and Tim would know exactly what went on during the drug saga and would have good reason to strongly speak against Hird as coach.

Cornes was closer to the mark , and the SA border,when he said that Hird surely can't get the job because relative to the other contenders he just hasn't done the work in the game over the last ten years.

Not a big deal in his eyes, just that Hird isn't qualified for the job.

And when Robbo is your main man you know  it's nothing more than teenage emotion without a shred of sense

Edited September 15, 2022 by IRW

[layzie 33,794]

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

*Hird 🤦‍♂️

There will be plenty of hard EFC members if it happens, dont worry about that. 

[Dr. Gonzo 24,209]

If Essendon go with Hird it will be one of the craziest moves in the history of the VFL/AFL and will cement their status as cellar-dweller/mid-table club for another 10 years. Going the saviour route never works, especially one as inexperienced and tainted as Hird.

What are they thinking?!

[layzie 33,794]

Please don't tell me it's down to Hird and Yze? Haven't heard squat else.

[Mr Steve 3,820]

13 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

If Essendon go with Hird it will be one of the craziest moves in the history of the VFL/AFL and will cement their status as cellar-dweller/mid-table club for another 10 years. Going the saviour route never works, especially one as inexperienced and tainted as Hird.

What are they thinking?!

Zach Merrett told a crowd of 600 people at an AFL finals lunch that James Hird 'would not be the right person for the Bombers coaching job', per

@MHatzoglou

Lost the players already. 

[IRW 1,387]

I saw Hirdy today down Toorak Road.

He sometimes  has a word or at least a quick chat in the park .

Today he was head down and shutting out the ambient visual noise that follows him.

Still looks like a Greek God, though the hair aint wot it used to be imo

 

So determined/ driven to succeed you can see why he was a champion but in conversation / chat about general  "stuff" it's an attitude that leads itself to superficial and banal cliches.

Actually he might be a good coach ,but then you could have said the same about Buckley