Jump to content

NON-MFC: Round 19, 2022

Dee Zephyr
in Melbourne Demons

Featured Replies

9 minutes ago, Sydney_Demon said:

Can't see it myself. I reckon Gold Coast have a much bigger chance against Brisbane and Port are a definite chance against Geelong. Gold Coast & Port will be definitely motivated by last night's result (unfortunately so will the Bulldogs!).

Agree re Port. Hoping they can skin the Cats tonight

  • Quote
    •  
    1 hour ago, Sydney_Demon said:

    Freo drawing is of course a marginally better result for us than them winning, but given they were 12% behind us on percentage (and 5.4% compared to Brisbane, 16.4% to Geelong) it's basically the same as a win compared to the sides above them on the ladder, as they were never going to make up the percentage anyway (definitely in the case of Melbourne & Geelong). A Richmond win would have been so so much better from a Melbourne perspective.

    From a Freo perspective it's the same as a loss to all the teams below them who all have much worse percentages (and possibly to Sydney who have virtually the same percentage). The results against Melbourne and the Bulldogs are crucial over the next 2 weeks.

    Our team benefits extremely marginally (see above) but I agree all the teams below Freo benefit significantly. Freo's destiny is still in their hands. Win the last 4 and they finish above Melbourne (assuming Melbourne losses against Brisbane in the last round) which is exactly the same as if they'd won against Richmond.

    I wouldn't be assuming that the percentage can't be made up ... Freo had 2 potential percentage boosters to finish the season so unless there is another draw, those potential percentage boosters are now irrelevant ... so that advantage is gone too

    Teams above Freo that lose games lose percentage as well

    A draw is obviously better than a loss but a win is still a better result

    As it stands, at this time of the year it could be assumed that all your rivals will keep winning thus continually gaining 4 premiership points

    So therefore, drawing the game last night has probably cost Freo a top 2 spot ... and that's ultra valuable

    Also, one of their closest rival for a top 4 spot (Pies with a poor percentage) can now go half a win clear if they defeat Essendon tomorrow

    Edited by Macca

  • Quote
    • Like 1

    I guess you could say the draw was half way between the benefit of a win and the ramifications of a loss.

    Who, the hell, would have thought..

  • Quote
    •  
    1 hour ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

    I fell asleep due to a big week, why such the low score at Marvel? Are Freo slightly overrated?

    Lobb out hurt them they were pretty sound structurally in the 2nd half but just couldn't get that forward connection (sound familiar?)

    They had a stat on Fox footy, first half Richmond went from D50 to F50 55% of the time - 2nd half it was 5%!! Another stat Freo turned it over 40 times (not sure if it was for the whole game or just 2nd half) and Richmond only scored 7 pts. Ludicrously low.

    They're so well set up behind the footy and they make their half time adjustments, very reminiscent of us last year. I still think the GF is played off out of two of us, Freo and Geel.

  • Quote
    • Thanks 1

    At the end of the season if Freo finish behind Collingwood by half a game (but with a much better percentage) then last night's draw will have cost them 

  • Quote

    There'll be no upset at the SCG. Swans tearing the Crows a new one

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    2 hours ago, Sydney_Demon said:

    Freo drawing is of course a marginally better result for us than them winning, but given they were 12% behind us on percentage (and 5.4% compared to Brisbane, 16.4% to Geelong) it's basically the same as a win compared to the sides above them on the ladder, as they were never going to make up the percentage anyway (definitely in the case of Melbourne & Geelong). A Richmond win would have been so so much better from a Melbourne perspective.

    From a Freo perspective it's the same as a loss to all the teams below them who all have much worse percentages (and possibly to Sydney who have virtually the same percentage). The results against Melbourne and the Bulldogs are crucial over the next 2 weeks.

    Our team benefits extremely marginally (see above) but I agree all the teams below Freo benefit significantly. Freo's destiny is still in their hands. Win the last 4 and they finish above Melbourne (assuming Melbourne losses against Brisbane in the last round) which is exactly the same as if they'd won against Richmond.

    Yes, obviously but the point here is that a draw means different things depending on what your percentage is relative to the sides above and below you. As I've said above, Fremantle's draw is essentially the same as a win against the teams above  them and a loss to the teams below them.

    No. It puts extra pressure and doubt in their minds. They didn’t win and should have. The 8 is still wide open. The Shockers blew a big chance. 
    A draw is as good as a win in Round 23, after September has been reached. 
    Not in Round 19

  • Quote
    •  

    Some youngsters to shout out

    Hayden Young from Freo is an excellent young player.  Great kicking skills. 
     

    Conor Macdonald from the Hawks is a seriously good youngster. Good pace. Moves effortlessly. Footskills are excellent.  
     

    Dylan Stephens from Swans. His burst of pace and has ability to hit targets. They have a great bunch of young fast kids. Stephens. Warner. Gulden. Florent. Campbell.  Very attacking team. 

  • Quote

    I'm optimistic about Port beating the Cats at Adelaide Oval.

    A repeat the 2021 QF performance therel will do just fine.  Both teams kicked poorly.  Result:

    Port: 12.14.86 d Cats 5.13.43

    Edited by Lucifers Hero

  • Quote

    Never thought I would say this but c'mon Port

  • Quote

    Good start Port.

    Powell Pepper couldn't hit a barn door last week and has nailed that long range goal today

  • Quote

    Sydney's poor kicking (4.11) in 2nd and 3rd qtrs has cost them a significant % boost.

    It may cost them a top 4 spot.

  • Quote
    2 hours ago, layzie said:

    There will be no encore, Adelaide are toast. 

    Adelaide have a big game to win next week, they are holding it back till it matters.

  • Quote
    •  

    Join the conversation

    You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

    Guest
    Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
    Reply to this topic...
    Go to topic listing

    Featured Content

    • NON-MFC: Round 15

      As the Demons head into their Bye Round, it's time to turn our attention to the other matches being played. Which teams are you tipping this week? And which results would be most favourable for the Demons if we can manage to turn our season around? Follow all the non-Melbourne games here and join the conversation as the ladder continues to take shape.

        • Like
      • 234 replies
      Demonland

    • REPORT: Port Adelaide

      Of course, it’s not the backline, you might argue and you would probably be right. It’s the boot studder (do they still have them?), the midfield, the recruiting staff, the forward line, the kicking coach, the Board, the interchange bench, the supporters, the folk at Casey, the head coach and the club psychologist  It’s all of them and all of us for having expectations that were sufficiently high to have believed three weeks ago that a restoration of the Melbourne team to a position where we might still be in contention for a finals berth when the time for the midseason bye arrived. Now let’s look at what happened over the period of time since Melbourne overwhelmed the Sydney Swans at the MCG in late May when it kicked 8.2 to 5.3 in the final quarter (and that was after scoring 3.8 to two straight goals in the second term). 

        • Clap
        • Thanks
        • Like
      • 3 replies
      Demonland

    • CASEY: Essendon

      Casey’s unbeaten run was extended for at least another fortnight after the Demons overran a persistent Essendon line up by 29 points at ETU Stadium in Port Melbourne last night. After conceding the first goal of the evening, Casey went on a scoring spree from about ten minutes in, with five unanswered majors with its fleet of midsized runners headed by the much improved Paddy Cross who kicked two in quick succession and livewire Ricky Mentha who also kicked an early goal. Leading the charge was recruit of the year, Riley Bonner while Bailey Laurie continued his impressive vein of form. With Tom Campbell missing from the lineup, Will Verrall stepped up to the plate demonstrating his improvement under the veteran ruckman’s tutelage. The Demons were looking comfortable for much of the second quarter and held a 25-point lead until the Bombers struck back with two goals in the shadows of half time. On the other side of the main break their revival continued with first three goals of the half. Harry Sharp, who had been quiet scrambled in the Demons’ first score of the third term to bring the margin back to a single point at the 17 minute mark and the game became an arm-wrestle for the remainder of the quarter and into the final moments of the last.

        • Clap
      • 0 replies
      Demonland

    • PREGAME: Gold Coast

      The Demons have the Bye next week but then are on the road once again when they come up against the Gold Coast Suns on the Gold Coast in what could be a last ditch effort to salvage their season. Who comes in and who comes out?

        • Thanks
      • 113 replies
      Demonland

    • PODCAST: Port Adelaide

      The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 16th June @ 8:00pm. Join Binman, George & I as we dissect the Dees disappointing loss to the Power.
      Your questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show.
      Listen LIVE: https://demonland.com/

        • Thanks
      • 32 replies
      Demonland

    • POSTGAME: Port Adelaide

      The Demons simply did not take their opportunities when they presented themselves and ultimately when down by 25 points effectively ending their finals chances. Goal kicking practice during the Bye?

        • Haha
        • Thanks
      • 252 replies
      Demonland
    View All