2 minutes ago, grazman said:

Maybe we should help Port out and give them one of the first round draft picks we get for Jacko so they can package that up with their existing 1st pick to get JHF.    All we'd be looking for in return is Georgiades. 

Was thinking the same thing. They'll need to lose a player in order to satisfy North.

Ironic that Adelaide offered North a bounty last year for Pick 1, so they could get JHF. 

North treated him poorly. I honestly don’t blame him. He’s been there less than a year and he’s looking at not knowing who his coach is.

They know he’s going so they are going to try and get max value this year. 

Absolutely [censored] poor. These kids all want to be pick one but play for successful club. Well that’s not how the system works. Where is the resilience? 
This guy won’t make it unless he grows up. 

Just now, The heart beats true said:

North treated him poorly. I honestly don’t blame him. He’s been there less than a year and he’s looking at not knowing who his coach is.

They know he’s going so they are going to try and get max value this year. 

How did they treat him poorly? He was arguing with senior players on the field. He breached team rules and buggered off home without telling them. 
They invested pick one in him and he’s shown not an ounce of respect for them. Yes they are a hot mess. Guess what, so are 99% of clubs who hold pick one each year. 

4 minutes ago, mo64 said:

Ironic that Adelaide offered North a bounty last year for Pick 1, so they could get JHF. 

The recent return home of top level talent might make clubs more inclined to take the value from the local clubs when it’s presented in the future.

North having a torrid time of it. Plenty of it self inflicted but losing the no 1 pick after 1 year is rough. head coach situation in limbo. I feel for them. They may be an even bigger basket case than we were back in the dark days.

Just now, Jaded No More said:

How did they treat him poorly? He was arguing with senior players on the field. He breached team rules and buggered off home without telling them. 
They invested pick one in him and he’s shown not an ounce of respect for them. Yes they are a hot mess. Guess what, so are 99% of clubs who hold pick one each year. 

They dropped him for the biggest game he was going to play for the year - at home in front of family and friends. You have to know when to protect your young players, and they did the opposite. He’s 19.

Got to feel gutted for north, as much as they annoyed me on field over the years they don’t deserve this. With us loosing Jackson and them Francis, and us maybe Pickett next year you have to seriously wonder why you would bother risking top picks on SA and WA players going forward. Jackson couldn’t have asked for a better culture than what he had in his time, Understudy to Gawn, Grand final, rising star. What more could u ask for.

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5 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

They dropped him for the biggest game he was going to play for the year - at home in front of family and friends. You have to know when to protect your young players, and they did the opposite. He’s 19.

They dropped him because he breached team rules and his form was bad. Welcome to the big league little boy. The world does not revolve around you and it won’t be any easier at Port 

 

These 18 year olds make more money than most  of us can ever dream of, yet they can’t handle the smallest hurdle. 

Edited October 2, 20222 yr by Jaded No More

 

1 hour ago, whatwhat say what said:

be interesting to see how the pear could get it done

Port will offer pick 8 and next year's future first. Maybe a late pick coming back from North. They can't trade their pick 27 this year as that'll go to the Eagles  for Rioli.

Either way if things go belly up with Hinkley next year then it's a lot off eggs in the JHF basket.

1 minute ago, Jaded No More said:

They dropped him because he breached team rules and his form was bad. Welcome to the big league little boy. The world does not revolve around you and it won’t be any easier at Port 

Or he could be a generational talent, and a bunch of disgruntled men, who have all been sacked since, horribly misjudged the situation - and the club will now not get anywhere near his value back.

Welcome to the big league of managing humans, with all their emotions, that are also incredibly valuable assets.

They got it wrong.

 

His step dad is former Port Adelaide player Fabian Francis (also a former Melbourne U19 player I think).  I think with everything that is going on at North with Clarkson it is potentially going to end in a bunfight if North dig their heels in and refuse to trade him.

Having said that I don't think pick 8 and a future first round pick from a side that played in a prelim final 12 months ago is enough for last year's #1 pick... which is why I think they'll need to trade a player out like Georgiades. 

4 minutes ago, grazman said:

His step dad is former Port Adelaide player Fabian Francis (also a former Melbourne U19 player I think).  I think with everything that is going on at North with Clarkson it is potentially going to end in a bunfight if North dig their heels in and refuse to trade him.

Having said that I don't think pick 8 and a future first round pick from a side that played in a prelim final 12 months ago is enough for last year's #1 pick... which is why I think they'll need to trade a player out like Georgiades. 

Duursma/Bergman more likely 

3 minutes ago, adonski said:

Duursma/Bergman more likely 

All 3 have Melbourne connections! 

51 minutes ago, John Demonic said:

Bad for us if Freo were wanting to swap for Ports pick 8 with their pick 13 and acquired 20 pick for Logue

Almost totally rules us out of getting the top 8 pick we were looking for. Hope the club are steadfast on the two first rounders + 1 second rounder. Give them Jackson and a third back. Hopefully their initial demands stay true.

49 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

They dropped him for the biggest game he was going to play for the year - at home in front of family and friends. You have to know when to protect your young players, and they did the opposite. He’s 19.

The most important thing to drop young players for and protect them from is cutting corners. He was caught out cutting recovery and earlier sneaking home.

They did a lot of bad stuff, gave him easy games, put him in an awful position (half forward in a [censored] team), but he deserved getting dropped.

Jason Horne-Scully

14 minutes ago, 12345_54321 said:

Almost totally rules us out of getting the top 8 pick we were looking for. Hope the club are steadfast on the two first rounders + 1 second rounder. Give them Jackson and a third back. Hopefully their initial demands stay true.

North very much may look at trading pick 8 if the accept it. Makes more sense for them than Port in some ways. They’ll have pick 2 for an elite talent to replace JHF, they can slide 8 back for a pair of good picks including banking another future pick. Giving they’re getting Logue and Tucker this year they won’t want to bring in too many kids, especially if Clarko’s on a years ban. They probably need to replace some recruiting staff too, having too many high picks this year isn’t a good idea for them.

I think this is really pathetic 

24 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

North very much may look at trading pick 8 if the accept it. Makes more sense for them than Port in some ways. They’ll have pick 2 for an elite talent to replace JHF, they can slide 8 back for a pair of good picks including banking another future pick. Giving they’re getting Logue and Tucker this year they won’t want to bring in too many kids, especially if Clarko’s on a years ban. They probably need to replace some recruiting staff too, having too many high picks this year isn’t a good idea for them.

Totally agree. North lost 3 recruiter's mid year who were average anyway, and they have pick 1, possibly 8 and a few players to bring in from other clubs. With Clarko out of the picture, they are a real chance to [censored] this up

Going to be a very, very eventful trade period.

Jason Taylor and Tim Lamb, please weave your wonderful magic!

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2 hours ago, Mickey said:

Maybe we can swap Bedford and 32 for 21. Then 21 to Pies for Grundy

Would be great but Bedford would have very little trade value. Late 3rd rounder. No way they would take that deal 

27 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

The most important thing to drop young players for and protect them from is cutting corners. He was caught out cutting recovery and earlier sneaking home.

They did a lot of bad stuff, gave him easy games, put him in an awful position (half forward in a [censored] team), but he deserved getting dropped.

But the fact everyone knows this is my point. So many things happen at footy clubs that nobody ever hears. North put it on the record, and exposed him publicly - while also spending a lot of the year not managing him properly and playing him when it only benefited the club. 

They misread the player and the situation, and nobody is left there to be held accountable. That’s why I don’t blame him for getting out.

People will waffle on about money and him being a spoiled brat, but if your employer publicly hung you out to dry while also continually proving to be incapable most would be out the door ASAP.