Trade and Free Agency rumours

[deejammin' 2,185]

27 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

 

Better?

Out: J Selwood(still in their best 3 mids), Dalhaus, Higgins, Narkle

In: Bowes (not getting a game at GC), Bruhn (ok mid for GWS), Henry (not getting a game at pies), I assume the last player is Hunter Clarke? 

They’re not getting worse but I’m not seeing huge improvement there. Bruhn to replace Selwood is a downgrade, Bowes is unproven and largely for pick 7 and Henry could be a Gary Rohan upgrade. That’s not a huge improvement. If Dangerfield, Smith, Hawkins and Duncan finally fall off the cliff Geelong will be much, much worse.

[Sir Why You Little 36,670]

Meth Coke giving up Pick 2 for pick 8 and Futures is just madness. What is the Stragedy??

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1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Meth Coke giving up Pick 2 for pick 8 and Futures is just madness. What is the Stragedy??

Would have though WC would want far more for pick 2.

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1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Meth Coke giving up Pick 2 for pick 8 and Futures is just madness. What is the Stragedy??

Let me introduce you to a little thing called the Kelly for Salem trade.

Pick 2 in this draft gets you a guy with bad hammies, a moderately paced half forward,  a tall forward that no one is really sold on and the Eagles don’t need and a nice outside mid who is too Greek for one poster on demonland.

Theres a few West Australians who will be around at pick 8 who won’t go home if the eagles are ordinary for the next few years. 

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4 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Meth Coke giving up Pick 2 for pick 8 and Futures is just madness. What is the Stragedy??

Sounds like it’s just that; stragedy…

[DeeSpencer 24,792]

6 minutes ago, deejammin' said:

Better?

Out: J Selwood(still in their best 3 mids), Dalhaus, Higgins, Narkle

In: Bowes (not getting a game at GC), Bruhn (ok mid for GWS), Henry (not getting a game at pies), I assume the last player is Hunter Clarke? 

They’re not getting worse but I’m not seeing huge improvement there. Bruhn to replace Selwood is a downgrade, Bowes is unproven and largely for pick 7 and Henry could be a Gary Rohan upgrade. That’s not a huge improvement. If Dangerfield, Smith, Hawkins and Duncan finally fall off the cliff Geelong will be much, much worse.

Holmes comes in to their 22 and Parfitt replaces Selwood. Parfitt’s as good as Selwood was this year, if not better with a clear run at it.

Pick 7, Bowes, Henry and Bruhn all develop in the 2’s to replace Rohan, Smith, Duncan etc.

Key forward the worry. Bet they end up with Cadman. 

[deejammin' 2,185]

1 minute ago, DeeSpencer said:

Holmes comes in to their 22 and Parfitt replaces Selwood. Parfitt’s as good as Selwood was this year, if not better with a clear run at it.

Pick 7, Bowes, Henry and Bruhn all develop in the 2’s to replace Rohan, Smith, Duncan etc.

Key forward the worry. Bet they end up with Cadman. 

I hope they don’t. I hope we get Cadman, but Geelong do seem to have a knack for things falling their way, I agree with you those players will play in the twos next year and might help them in the future, but I don’t see improvement coming from them in 2023. 
Parfitt for Selwood will be interesting, Parfitt’s  best is very good but he goes missing. It may be wishful thinking but I’m hoping they’re getting worse next year.

[Sir Why You Little 36,670]

31 minutes ago, rpfc said:

Sounds like it’s just that; stragedy…

“It just don’t add up…”

[spirit of norm smith 15,276]

 

Dees negotiations with Freo for Luke Jackson !!! 

[dazzledavey36 52,908]

 

[Sir Why You Little 36,670]

4 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

 

Of course. That deal was ludicrous in all permutations!!

[Fat Tony 5,090]

2 hours ago, old55 said:

They'll have to give something decent back to GC for 7 + Bowes - probably F1st.

Then what are they using for Bruhn and Henry? Will take 18 and ?

I don't think they're getting Henry done, that sounds like it's being driven by Henry more than the Cats and Collingwood want to keep him.

Isn’t Henry out of contract?

[spirit of norm smith 15,276]

On 9/25/2022 at 8:58 AM, spirit of norm smith said:

No more small forwards or small defenders for me 

We have Hibbo Riv Salem  HUNT ❌ Bowey D.Smith and Mcvee

We have Kozzzy Spargo ANB Bedford ❌ Chandler Laurie AMW 

Currently oversubscribed in my view 

I’d like to bring the ruck/forward option to replace LJ, plus another skilled speedy midfielder (like a Chad Warner type) to run and provide good entries into forward 50. 

Still looking for our ruck/forward option AND speedy midfielder 

[old55 22,853]

1 hour ago, Fat Tony said:

Isn’t Henry out of contract?

Yes but he's probably not getting to Geelong via the PSD.

[layzie 33,022]

2 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Holmes comes in to their 22 and Parfitt replaces Selwood. Parfitt’s as good as Selwood was this year, if not better with a clear run at it.

Pick 7, Bowes, Henry and Bruhn all develop in the 2’s to replace Rohan, Smith, Duncan etc.

Key forward the worry. Bet they end up with Cadman. 

Gee if I were Bowes I wouldn't be picking Geelong to play in the 2s. 

Then again, that's essentially what Dunstan has done.

[spirit of norm smith 15,276]

49 minutes ago, layzie said:

Gee if I were Bowes I wouldn't be picking Geelong to play in the 2s. 

Then again, that's essentially what Dunstan has done.

Agreed. I thought the Gawks were the obvious choice.  Though the lure of a premiership has made Pussycats a “destination club”. 

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What's Jessie Hogans status again?

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12 minutes ago, RedLegs23 said:

What's Jessie Hogans status again?

Signed a new deal with the Giants

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3 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

“It just don’t add up…”

 

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1 hour ago, layzie said:

Gee if I were Bowes I wouldn't be picking Geelong to play in the 2s. 

Then again, that's essentially what Dunstan has done.

Bowes gets a 4 year deal with Geelong and has had a lot of major injuries. He doesn't need cash because clearly he was guaranteed the 2 years at 800k. He needs coaching and physical development to get back to quality AFL footy.

Selwood, Dahlhaus and Higgins gone, Smith, Tuohy, Dangerfield, Duncan, Menegola can't go forever.

He'll take a preseason or two to learn the system and get his body cherry ripe and then play 100 games straight is my guess. 

Dunstan was just a depth piece. Bowes is choosing Geelong to rehabilitate his career rather than risking Essendon doing the same with more game time but inferior everything else.

[Lucifers Hero 38,985]

Looks like we will have competition to go up the order.   Carlton have put #10 on the market and will use future picks to sweeten the deal.

So if our highest pick from Freo is 13 we will need to add more 'sweeteners' to a deal than Carlton does.

Edited October 5, 2022 by Lucifers Hero

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1 hour ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Looks like we will have competition to go up the order.   Carlton have put #10 on the market and will use future picks to sweeten the deal.

So if our highest pick from Freo is 13 we will need to add more 'sweeteners' to a deal than Carlton does.

That could actually be a good thing, just thinking outside the box a bit, they don't need key forwards.  So the further they move up, the more chance of one of those Key forwards slip.  still think we need pick 6-8 to get Cadman. 

[dazzledavey36 52,908]

Pains me to say this but I'm loving the way Geelong have gone about it with their list management.

Win a flag but haven't even rested on their laurels. They bring in 3 quality young talent in Bowes, Bruhn and Ollie Henry plus pick 7. 

They're bringing in freshness and looking at esy to regenerate their list while continuing to contend.

Stark difference to how we went about last year when we brought in Luke Dunstan to spend majority of the year in the VFL.

Even now, whilst Grundy is an upgrade on Jackson I'm not sure we've made much improvement with our list moving into next year.

Talk of Gawn playing majority up forward simply does not fix our forward half issue at all. We've lost depth in Bedford and im not entirely sure of we have a plan in finding a replacement.

Still a bit to go during the trade period, but it's a bit deflating watching other top sides like Brisbane and Geelong top up with some quality talent to fit their needs.

Edited October 5, 2022 by dazzledavey36

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1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Pains me to say this but I'm loving the way Geelong have gone about it with their list management.

Stark difference to how we went about last year when we brought in Luke Dunstan to spend majority of the year in the VFL.

We are very much not in the same position as Geelong.

[layzie 33,022]

Yep, very impressive way of operating down there at Cat Park. Don't hate the player, hate the game.