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16 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

There’s a bit of Collingwood 6 footer about that measurement. Most rucks look clearly taller than him. Darcy Cameron listed at 204 and looks more like an inch than a cm taller. Either that or Grundy is appears shorter because he’s usually bear hugging opponents 

grundy probably appears shorter than most oponent ruckmen because he's all torso and trunk and no legs, thats why his mobility and follow up work is better than most ruckmen, low centre of gravity and closer to ground

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    The main problem with Grundy is that he is not very capable as a forward. He would push Gawn to FF perhaps 2 years too early.

    On the flip side, maybe it does keep Gawn playing longer…

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    Three team trade 

    gws - get lobb harmes freo first round pick

    melb - Josh Kelly or Whitfield and Logue 

    freo- Jackson 

    ???

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    5 minutes ago, Edm said:

    Three team trade 

    gws - get lobb harmes freo first round pick

    melb - Josh Kelly or Whitfield and Logue 

    freo- Jackson 

    ???

    No thanks

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    On 7/30/2022 at 3:00 PM, Sir Why You Little said:

    Grundy is not tall…

    Fascinating piece of Non information 

    Keep yelling at the Mirror 

    My favourite was the bit about ‘nicking’ possessions from Sidebottom and Pendlebury 

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    Why not go after Sean Darcy from Freo? He grew up in Victoria... i'd be getting into his hear to remind him of what he's missing out in Victoria.

    He will be in Geelong's crosshairs in a few years time (played for Geelong Falcons) so lets get on it now when we have the opportunity. 

    Is it a straight swap? If not who has to cough extra trade capital?

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    34 minutes ago, CYB said:

    Why not go after Sean Darcy from Freo? He grew up in Victoria... i'd be getting into his hear to remind him of what he's missing out in Victoria.

    He will be in Geelong's crosshairs in a few years time (played for Geelong Falcons) so lets get on it now when we have the opportunity. 

    Is it a straight swap? If not who has to cough extra trade capital?

    Maybe still want a freo first round pick?

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    12 minutes ago, Edm said:

    Maybe still want a freo first round pick?

    Darcy + Pick 14-16 sounds great for the Dees, but feels a bit unrealistic. 

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    On 7/30/2022 at 6:33 PM, rpfc said:

    That’s the thing that gives me pause.

    Plus the fact Grundy wouldn't be great as a resting forward, so it means he has to ruck pretty much the whole game or sit on the bench. We could play him behind the ball I guess, but I don't see it.

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    Ah, just saw your post on this page. Agreed.

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    I'd have Kelly or Whitfield. They are both superb kicks and would complement our inside game with outside run.

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    Grundy (28 yrs old) would be perfect to maximise our window as premiership contenders while we develop / recruit a junior ruck to be ready in 4/5 years time ... I feel Max's body will pack it in (with little notice) at some point given the issues he has had with his knees and then what do we do without a capable plan B?

    If Grundy is mostly in the ruck, next years forward line could be: Max, plus two of BB/Tom Mac or JVR (as the 3rd tall only where he can fly across the pack with potentially an undersized opponent and not have to do the grunt work). The JVR move might even happen this season when BB returns as a 3rd tall option to replace 'Melk' as the hybrid tall.

     

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    We know we should look for a key forward with years of footy ahead of them in the trade period as a priority ... other than McStay does anyone know of one that is available? Correct, there isn't one and we may not be able to afford one. So how do we get a forward line that can improve our changes of winning a flag next season whether Jacko leaves or not?

    I would wait for Josh Kennedy to retire (as he has announced he will do) entice him to the Dees on a reduced salary in the hope of getting a free kick at a flag. No significant draft picks would be needed. He is originally from Melbourne. He is still kicking 2 goals a game and I'm sure at MFC he would benefit from better inside 50 numbers and delivery.

    What's to lose? Kennedy vs some pick in the late 70's to round out out list? Do we really want to rely on the form of Weid? 

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    2 hours ago, Edm said:

    Three team trade 

    gws - get lobb harmes freo first round pick

    melb - Josh Kelly or Whitfield and Logue 

    freo- Jackson 

    ???

    The more times goes on, the more I feel like Kelly and Whitfield are highly paid irrelevant stat padders. Good players no doubt, but what individual accolades have they achieved that would make one of them worthy of being involved in an LJ trade, that would make us think we have 5+ years of their best ahead of them? They've both been AA once, 5 years ago. No thanks tbh. I know Logue is the other half of your trade, but I just don't feel like any one of them are difference makers.

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    20 minutes ago, Demons1858 said:

    We know we should look for a key forward with years of footy ahead of them in the trade period as a priority ... other than McStay does anyone know of one that is available? Correct, there isn't one and we may not be able to afford one. So how do we get a forward line that can improve our changes of winning a flag next season whether Jacko leaves or not?

    I would wait for Josh Kennedy to retire (as he has announced he will do) entice him to the Dees on a reduced salary in the hope of getting a free kick at a flag. No significant draft picks would be needed. He is originally from Melbourne. He is still kicking 2 goals a game and I'm sure at MFC he would benefit from better inside 50 numbers and delivery.

    What's to lose? Kennedy vs some pick in the late 70's to round out out list? Do we really want to rely on the form of Weid? 

    He's originally from Perth and I think he's pretty cooked now.

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    7 minutes ago, wheaters31 said:

    Would anyone be interested in Harry Himmelberg?

    Hasnt been a stand-out at GWS until he moved into the backline a month ago. He is definitely an upgrade on what we have though so as long as we didnt give up overs then it would work i think. 

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    2 hours ago, wheaters31 said:

    Would anyone be interested in Harry Himmelberg?

    Possibly. What do you reckon it would take to get him? 2nd and 3rd maybe?

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    Targets:

    - McStay - don’t want to debate this again but he’s a good afl player and off to Coll
    - Gunston
    - Logue - probably a defender, could be a value buy and swing man with Petty
    - Lobb 

    Worth a look:
    Grundy
    Meek
    E. Himmelberg - has the size and athleticism, has threatened to become an afl player 
    James Stewart - awful injury run, has skills but probably a defender these days
    Caleb Marchbank - defender and a huge gamble but you never know
    Wade Derksen - just a great name 
    Emerson Jeka

    Could get a train on run:

    Frampton - back up ruck
    Oscar Mc - the return!
    Aaron Francis
    Chris Burgess - probably a good state leaguer
    Schache - 3rd time lucky?

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    3 hours ago, Demons1858 said:

    We know we should look for a key forward with years of footy ahead of them in the trade period as a priority ... other than McStay does anyone know of one that is available? Correct, there isn't one and we may not be able to afford one. So how do we get a forward line that can improve our changes of winning a flag next season whether Jacko leaves or not?

    I would wait for Josh Kennedy to retire (as he has announced he will do) entice him to the Dees on a reduced salary in the hope of getting a free kick at a flag. No significant draft picks would be needed. He is originally from Melbourne. He is still kicking 2 goals a game and I'm sure at MFC he would benefit from better inside 50 numbers and delivery.

    What's to lose? Kennedy vs some pick in the late 70's to round out out list? Do we really want to rely on the form of Weid? 

    Retired players have to wait 18 months before going back into the draft.

    He will be pushing towards 40 by then.

    I think he is originally a Perth boy.

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    9 minutes ago, Redleg said:

    Retired players have to wait 18 months before going back into the draft.

    He will be pushing towards 40 by then.

    I think he is originally a Perth boy.

    i think that only applies to players who retire under contract, but might be totally wrong.

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    11 minutes ago, Redleg said:

    Retired players have to wait 18 months before going back into the draft.

    He will be pushing towards 40 by then.

    I think he is originally a Perth boy.

    murray bushrangers. born in seymour

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    Anyone considered Ben McKay as a forward? Had a run there a few weeks back and didn't look out of place. Train him for a preseason with the forwards. Out of contract end of 23

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    7 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

    murray bushrangers. born in seymour

    You might be thinking of a different Kennedy there, dc.

    Josh (of West Coast) was born in Melbourne, and grew up in Canberra, Townsville, and Perth, with his family finally settling in Northampton, a small country town north of Geraldton, Western Australia.  He was recruited by Carlton from East Fremantle.

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    Just now, Demonstone said:

     

    You might be thinking of a different Kennedy there, dc.

    Josh (of West Coast) was born in Melbourne, and grew up in Canberra, Townsville, and Perth, with his family finally settling in Northampton, a small country town north of Geraldton, Western Australia.  He was recruited by Carlton from East Fremantle.

    were we not talking about mundy?

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    No, the post was about picking up Kennedy after he retires.  I think we have a crossed line!  (is that still a thing?)

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