NON-MFC: Round 15, 2022

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,498]

2 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

2 Weeks ago Aints Supporters started sending messages telling me the Demons were done. I sent back Pictures of myself holding the Cup. 

That’s awesome mate.

Please send Demonland yet another photo as well…….

Edited June 25, 2022 by Bring-Back-Powell

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,498]

I’m seriously impressed with Carlton and Geelong at the moment.

If we unfortunately miss the GF, I can see  these two playing it off.

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,498]

Collingwood V GWS is a big game today in respect of Collingwood’s finals chances.

Does anyone see them as a premiership contender or a mid range side in the middle of a winning streak?

All I know is that we’ll need to play a lot better, for longer, against them in round 21. They’ve well and truly had the wood over us since round 23 2017.

 

[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,654]

23 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Collingwood V GWS is a big game today in respect of Collingwood’s finals chances.

Does anyone see them as a premiership contender or a mid range side in the middle of a winning streak?

All I know is that we’ll need to play a lot better, for longer, against them in round 21. They’ve well and truly had the wood over us since round 23 2017.

 

Coached well, but not GF contenders, will be surprised if they make PF

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,628]

Carlton winning only proves to me that Freo ain't that good, we were 5 goals up against them and we know the circumstances around why we coughed that lead up.

Freo forward line is piddle and posed no problems to Carlton.

Look forward to playing them in R 22 and beyond.

[FarNorthernD 5,861]

6 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I’m seriously impressed with Carlton and Geelong at the moment.

If we unfortunately miss the GF, I can see  these two playing it off.

The only thing worse than a Geelong V Carlton GF would be a Geelong V Essendon one. Either of those teams winning would be tragic.  I’d have to leave the country for a bit 

[grazman 7,348]

12 hours ago, Kit Walker said:

King massively overrates this sort of thing - 2-3 is about right.

These are two good sides. Geelong are a better side this year with Stengle and De Konig.

To defend King he never said he will get 5-6 weeks, he said he 'should' get 5-6 weeks if the AFL are serious about providing an effective deterrent for these kind of actions.  I think he is as cynical as the rest of us plebs when it comes to the consistency of the tribunal. 

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Michael Long only got a four-match ban for his disgraceful hit on Troy Simmonds in the Grand Final, which was lenient at the time.

Stewart’s bump wasn’t quite as bad but not far off, and yet 22 years later with all we now know about the impact concussion has on long-term health it is disgraceful that these kind of bumps are getting anything less than 6 weeks minimum.

[DubDee 24,764]

in fairness to Chris Scott this is good form to call out a bad hit and acknowledge it
 

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/geelong-cats/afl-news-2022-chris-scott-press-conference-after-geelong-cats-win-over-richmond-tigers-private-chat-with-tom-stewart-bump-on-dion-prestia/news-story/c14f64e09bbd0533f9b05d43aba6c905

[DubDee 24,764]

The thing that annoys me is that the bump probably decides the game. A key mid is out for the game replaced by a ruck. Stewart gets 29 touches and the Cats win

AFL. Need to consider a red card type rule for off the ball hits like this. It’s simply unfair

[Lucifers Hero 39,063]

7 minutes ago, DubDee said:

in fairness to Chris Scott this is good form to call out a bad hit and acknowledge it
 

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/geelong-cats/afl-news-2022-chris-scott-press-conference-after-geelong-cats-win-over-richmond-tigers-private-chat-with-tom-stewart-bump-on-dion-prestia/news-story/c14f64e09bbd0533f9b05d43aba6c905

Scott says it wasn't deliberate.  I don't think he intended to hurt but the action looked deliberate to me: 

• they were a long way from the ball. 
• Stewart at no time looked at or veered toward the ball. 
• Made a beeline for Prestia.
• Didn't break stride
• Elected to bump (there wasn't even an option to tackle as they were so far from the ball and Prestia hadn't had possession)

At a human level it was sickening to see Prestia's body so contorted when he tried to move and his face so dazed.

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,498]

16 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Michael Long only got a four-match ban for his disgraceful hit on Troy Simmonds in the Grand Final, which was lenient at the time.

And to rub salt in the wounds he was able to serve 3 of them in the 2001 Ansett Cup.

[Pates 9,626]

11 minutes ago, DubDee said:

The thing that annoys me is that the bump probably decides the game. A key mid is out for the game replaced by a ruck. Stewart gets 29 touches and the Cats win

AFL. Need to consider a red card type rule for off the ball hits like this. It’s simply unfair

100% agree with this, there’s been a lot of resistance to this sort of action but at the end of the day it’s not the victim’s team on the night that gets the benefits of a player being out a player, it’s the infringing team that gets the benefits by taking that player out of the game. 

I’d be very comfortable with a system of a green, yellow, and red card. 

Green sends the player off for 5 “in play” minutes, yellow is 10, and red is out of the game. I could also see a system where the umpire is able to send the player off but there is someone reviewing the decision to decide if it’s too harsh or not harsh enough or even missed completely. That way if the umpires misses something the player can still be put out of the game for a period. 

I know it’s a movement that makes it look more like soccer and hockey, but it’s completely wrong that Geelong got to benefit from a dangerous and really thuggish act. 

[ANG13 2,041]

55 minutes ago, FarNorthernD said:

The only thing worse than a Geelong V Carlton GF would be a Geelong V Essendon one. Either of those teams winning would be tragic.  I’d have to leave the country for a bit 

While those two combinations are bad there probably not leave the country bad for me but if ever there is an Essendon v Carlton grand final that will be my calling in life to go on an overseas holiday preferably somewhere without the internet. 

[Lucifers Hero 39,063]

25 minutes ago, DubDee said:

The thing that annoys me is that the bump probably decides the game. A key mid is out for the game replaced by a ruck. Stewart gets 29 touches and the Cats win

AFL. Need to consider a red card type rule for off the ball hits like this. It’s simply unfair

Had the umpires stopped play for the 3 minutes it needn't have decided the game.  Geelong got a goal in that time while Tigers were a person down.

It is a big surprise that the '4th' umpire didn't talk to those on the ground through the headphones to stop the game.  Not just for fairness but it was dangerous as play was going on around Prestia and the medicos.

Someone must have told the umpires to smarten up as when Baker was hit head high later in the game they stopped play.

[Clintosaurus 7,688]

Even last week it took over a minute for play to stop when Wil Powell was injured. Not sure what umps look at.

[DubDee 24,764]

11 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Had the umpires stopped play for the 3 minutes it needn't have decided the game.  Geelong got a goal in that time while Tigers were a person down.

It is a big surprise that the '4th' umpire didn't talk to those on the ground through the headphones to stop the game.  Not just for fairness but it was dangerous as play was going on around Prestia and the medicos.

Someone must have told the umpires to smarten up as when Baker was hit head high later in the game they stopped play.

Agree the game should have been stopped but the Tigers we’re still down a key midfield rotation for three quarters and the Stewart continued to dominate 

[grazman 7,348]

1 hour ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Had the umpires stopped play for the 3 minutes it needn't have decided the game.  Geelong got a goal in that time while Tigers were a person down.

It is a big surprise that the '4th' umpire didn't talk to those on the ground through the headphones to stop the game.  Not just for fairness but it was dangerous as play was going on around Prestia and the medicos.

Someone must have told the umpires to smarten up as when Baker was hit head high later in the game they stopped play.

 It used to be that as soon as you brought a stretcher on the field play stopped immediately,  then the AFL made an edict that the player had to get onto the stretcher to stop clubs 'gaming' the system.  

I think in this case given the hit and it was clear Prestia was going to have a concussion test, Richmond should have called for the stretcher straight away.

 

[Pates 9,626]

6 minutes ago, grazman said:

 It used to be that as soon as you brought a stretcher on the field play stopped immediately,  then the AFL made an edict that the player had to get onto the stretcher to stop clubs 'gaming' the system.  

I think in this case given the hit and it was clear Prestia was going to have a concussion test, Richmond should have called for the stretcher straight away.

 

I’ve never really known AFL teams or players to game this, in fact if anything players resist getting onto the stretcher when they should to seem more macho. Total contrast to soccer, particularly European and international games, where they blatantly and disgracefully use it to slow momentum and waste time. I will never forget an Aussie match against Iraq where they used the stretcher what felt like every 5 minutes. The ref did nothing. Really glad AFL isn’t like that. 

[D4Life 2,412]

9 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Collingwood V GWS is a big game today in respect of Collingwood’s finals chances.

Does anyone see them as a premiership contender or a mid range side in the middle of a winning streak?

All I know is that we’ll need to play a lot better, for longer, against them in round 21. They’ve well and truly had the wood over us since round 23 2017.

 

They are no guarantee to make the finals!

[picket fence 16,810]

12 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Same. And if I’m feeling down but only have a short time to spare I watch the last three minutes of round 23. ❤️💙

Well I thought about this WCW and since yourself and Uncle Bitter are among my favourite posters on Demonland and as I am in a generous mood, this one is for you guys!! Cheers PF 

To borrow from Petula Clark Downtown was always one of my favourite songs of the era, here is the Demonland version

When you're alone and life is making you lonely
You can always go
To DEMONLAND
When you've got worries all the noise and the hurry
Seems to help I know
at Demonland

Just listen to the music of the traffic in the city
Linger on the sidewalk where the neon signs are pretty
How can you lose?

The light's so much brighter there
You can forget all your troubles, forget all your cares

So go Demonland
Things will be great when you're
at Demonland
No finer place for sure
Demonland
Everything's waiting for you (at downtown, demonland)

Don't hang around and let your problems surround you
There are replays to show
at Demonland
Maybe you know some little places to go to
Where they never close
Demonland

Just listen to the rhythm of a gentle bossa nova
You'll be dancing with 'em too before the night is over
Happy again

The light's so much brighter there
You can forget all your troubles, forget all your cares

So go demonland
Where all the lights are bright
Demonland
Waiting for you tonight
Demonland
You're gonna be alright now (downtown)
Downtown
Demonland

Downtown

Demonland

And you may find somebody kind to help and understand you
Someone who is just like you and needs a gentle hand
To guide them along
So maybe I'll see you there
We can forget all our troubles, forget all our cares

So go Demonland
Things will be great when you're
at DEMONLAND
Don't wait a minute more
DEEMONLAND
Everything's waiting for you (downtown, downtown)

Downtown
(DEMONLAND)
Downtown
(DEMONLAND)
Downtown
(DEMONLAND)
Downtown
(DEMONLAND)

🤩

[adonski 11,046]

Just now, picket fence said:

Well I thought about this WCW and since yourself and Uncle Bitter are among my favourite posters on Demonland and as I am in a generous mood, this one is for you guys!! Cheers PF 

To borrow from Petula Clark Downtown was always one of my favourite songs of the era, here is the Demonland version

When you're alone and life is making you lonely
You can always go
To DEMONLAND
When you've got worries all the noise and the hurry
Seems to help I know
at Demonland

Just listen to the music of the traffic in the city
Linger on the sidewalk where the neon signs are pretty
How can you lose?

The light's so much brighter there
You can forget all your troubles, forget all your cares

So go Demonland
Things will be great when you're
at Demonland
No finer place for sure
Demonland
Everything's waiting for you (at downtown, demonland)

Don't hang around and let your problems surround you
There are replays to show
at Demonland
Maybe you know some little places to go to
Where they never close
Demonland

Just listen to the rhythm of a gentle bossa nova
You'll be dancing with 'em too before the night is over
Happy again

The light's so much brighter there
You can forget all your troubles, forget all your cares

So go demonland
Where all the lights are bright
Demonland
Waiting for you tonight
Demonland
You're gonna be alright now (downtown)
Downtown
Demonland

Downtown

Demonland

And you may find somebody kind to help and understand you
Someone who is just like you and needs a gentle hand
To guide them along
So maybe I'll see you there
We can forget all our troubles, forget all our cares

So go Demonland
Things will be great when you're
at DEMONLAND
Don't wait a minute more
DEEMONLAND
Everything's waiting for you (downtown, downtown)

Downtown
(DEMONLAND)
Downtown
(DEMONLAND)
Downtown
(DEMONLAND)
Downtown
(DEMONLAND)

🤩

 

[WalkingCivilWar 39,266]

23 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Well I thought about this WCW and since yourself and Uncle Bitter are among my favourite posters on Demonland and as I am in a generous mood, this one is for you guys!! Cheers PF 

To borrow from Petula Clark Downtown was always one of my favourite songs of the era, here is the Demonland version

When you're alone and life is making you lonely
You can always go
To DEMONLAND
When you've got worries all the noise and the hurry
Seems to help I know
at Demonland

Just listen to the music of the traffic in the city
Linger on the sidewalk where the neon signs are pretty
How can you lose?

The light's so much brighter there
You can forget all your troubles, forget all your cares

So go Demonland
Things will be great when you're
at Demonland
No finer place for sure
Demonland
Everything's waiting for you (at downtown, demonland)

Don't hang around and let your problems surround you
There are replays to show
at Demonland
Maybe you know some little places to go to
Where they never close
Demonland

Just listen to the rhythm of a gentle bossa nova
You'll be dancing with 'em too before the night is over
Happy again

The light's so much brighter there
You can forget all your troubles, forget all your cares

So go demonland
Where all the lights are bright
Demonland
Waiting for you tonight
Demonland
You're gonna be alright now (downtown)
Downtown
Demonland

Downtown

Demonland

And you may find somebody kind to help and understand you
Someone who is just like you and needs a gentle hand
To guide them along
So maybe I'll see you there
We can forget all our troubles, forget all our cares

So go Demonland
Things will be great when you're
at DEMONLAND
Don't wait a minute more
DEEMONLAND
Everything's waiting for you (downtown, downtown)

Downtown
(DEMONLAND)
Downtown
(DEMONLAND)
Downtown
(DEMONLAND)
Downtown
(DEMONLAND)

🤩

Bless you, PF. ❌❌❌

Incoming…

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,628]

19 hours ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

I’m not getting carried away with this result. Freo have been up for a while, as were we. I do hope the Giants can roll the Pies though, another team that’s been riding high of late.

I never knew Freo won a premiership and went on a 17 game winning streak?

Edited June 26, 2022 by YesitwasaWin4theAges

[Bitter but optimistic 22,123]

The filth getting rolled by GWS would top off the round  nicely.

Very nicely indeed !!