12 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Not sure they care.

iirc Gil's salary/bonuses are primarily based on Revenue.  Broadcasting and related sponsor revenue dwarf that of attendance. 

Its a simplistic KPI.  I'm sure there are others but not sure game attendance is one or if it is, is a significant KPI.

If we see a trend away from the numbers we've currently got in terms of watching on the various platforms (FTA TV, Foxtel etc) then that can affect the money on offer for the broadcast rights

Now I'm not saying the above will happen but it could happen.  The AFL should be rightfully concerned and the TV execs would be concerned as well (as they are the ones forking out the dosh)

Edited June 10, 20222 yr by Macca

1 hour ago, old dee said:

You missed cats.

komodo dragons way ahead

1 hour ago, old dee said:

That's not the reason and you know it. They did not make up this story. MFC players did that all on their own.

That’s correct old timer, Paul Roos knew how to react, it was a matter of see you later to Barry Hall, strength in adversary, no making up bs.

46 minutes ago, Jontee said:

 

Take it easy will you...

I like two of the three guess which one misses out?

39 minutes ago, Macca said:

Ultimately, sparse crowds can effect the numbers viewing on TV

And it could be that those staying away are not staying away for the more obvious reasons (covid, cold weather etc)

The AFL needs to promote the games in terms of people attending the games

Very few people go to League games but they have good ratings and are now catching up to the AFL in media rights. Going is not everything these days. I suspect the AFL would sell all games to pay tv if they could. That actually might improve attending figures but it will never happen.  

12 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

komodo dragons way ahead

Correct dc but you don’t run into many of them around melbourne. 

9 minutes ago, old dee said:

Very few people go to League games but they have good ratings and are now catching up to the AFL in media rights. Going is not everything these days. I suspect the AFL would sell all games to pay tv if they could. That actually might improve attending figures but it will never happen.  

The Rugby league model doesn't involve 'falling' crowds though, old dee

21 minutes ago, Macca said:

The Rugby league model doesn't involve 'falling' crowds though, old dee

What I was suggesting Macca is smaller crowds don’t necessarily mean less interest. 

28 minutes ago, old dee said:

What I was suggesting Macca is smaller crowds don’t necessarily mean less interest. 

Well my sample size of 20-30 people who I regularly talk footy with are often staying away for the reasons stated previously and the same people are watching way less neutral games.  It's fair to say that the sample size involves people over the age of 40, 50 or 60

The interest is still very high but the sport is not as good to watch on TV as other sports.  And in general, the over 40's are watching a different version of the sport than the version they were brought up on

They still like footy but I'm not sure they love it

The TV numbers during covid were great but that was when we were locked up and couldn't go to the games

What about your mates & acquaintances?  What are their habits re footy, old dee?

n.b. I also reckon that the TV numbers could be maintained or increased

Edited June 10, 20222 yr by Macca

2 hours ago, DeeZee said:

Negativity around the game, is definitely one of the contributing factor to small crowds in my opinion. 

You can add homogenising the game. A lot of the excitement and individual brilliance is gone.

Cold weather and mid week.

Need to book tickets and pay more when plenty of seats.

Covid.

Blaring music.

Great coverage on TV in comfort of home.

Poor officiating.

A ruling body out of touch with the fan base.

Among other reasons I can’t think of atm. 

 

Perhaps we should ban our players from visiting Greville St? I recall much publicised reports of an another ugly incident involving one of our former champions happening there a coupe of decades ago. Bad vibes lurk there.

Edited June 10, 20222 yr by John Crow Batty

FYI

 

Just watched the Disco debut announcement video after Goody’s presser. What a horribly disunited bunch! 😉

3 hours ago, Macca said:

One of the journo's made a comment about Demon supporters being at the snow on Monday instead of the game

How childish and he should have been told to shut up by his peers

Supporter-speak I don't mind, but a professional journalist? 

And the media wonder why we have little respect for the way they go about their job

It's a serious press conference interrupted by a comment that is better suited to the schoolyard

Absolute clown Macca, sounded like he was very happy with himself after that comment, could almost hear him giggling. 

16 minutes ago, Macca said:

Well my sample size of 20-30 people who I regularly talk footy with are often staying away for the reasons stated previously and the same people are watching way less neutral games.  It's fair to say that the sample size involves people over the age of 40, 50 or 60

The interest is still very high but the sport is not as good to watch on TV as other sports.  And in general, the over 40's are watching a different version of the sport than the version they were brought up on

They still like footy but I'm not sure they love it

The TV numbers during covid were great but that was when we were locked up and couldn't go to the games

What about your mates & acquaintances?  What are their habits re footy, old dee?

n.b. I also reckon that the TV numbers could be maintained or increased

Agree Macca I seldom watch other games. It is not as good to watch. Most of my friends are older like me. They seldom go to night games in winter. I have keen tiger fans who did not go last night. Just too cold and the don't like catching trains at night after a game.

6 minutes ago, old dee said:

Agree Macca I seldom watch other games. It is not as good to watch. Most of my friends are older like me. They seldom go to night games in winter. I have keen tiger fans who did not go last night. Just too cold and the don't like catching trains at night after a game.

Thursday night footy is seen as a success for the league as the broadcasters love it, but for the viewing public it’s an awful time to go for I would say most of the public. I understand the benefits the league gets from TV rights but there has to be a balance to ensure the fans are being looked after as well. 

16 minutes ago, John Crow Batty said:

Perhaps we should ban our players from visiting Greville St? I recall much publicised reports of an another ugly incident involving one of our former champions happening there a coupe of decades ago. Bad vibes lurk there.

You mean the pee pee incident?

14 minutes ago, Webber said:

Just watched the Disco debut announcement video after Goody’s presser. What a horribly disunited bunch! 😉

I called the wife in to have look at it, real problems down at the club. 

7 minutes ago, old dee said:

Agree Macca I seldom watch other games. It is not as good to watch. Most of my friends are older like me. They seldom go to night games in winter. I have keen tiger fans who did not go last night. Just too cold and the don't like catching trains at night after a game.

Could always try an oodie OD... you never know where it might lead!

19 minutes ago, old dee said:

Agree Macca I seldom watch other games. It is not as good to watch. Most of my friends are older like me. They seldom go to night games in winter. I have keen tiger fans who did not go last night. Just too cold and the don't like catching trains at night after a game.

Putting aside TV numbers etc

Right now the issues surround crowd numbers ... and the AFL have admitted they have got a problem

Now they need to do something about it ... logistics, parking, cost of tickets, prices of food & beverages, covid/flu, weather, blaring music,  seating arrangements and then there is the game itself (umpiring, congestion, too many stoppages etc) which can all be addressed (although I'm not sure we can do much more re covid & the flu)

I wish the AFL well because I want to see the crowd numbers at big numbers again

Edited June 10, 20222 yr by Macca

Wow. Soooo proud of Goody. 11 minutes of questions without notice answered perfectly. He couldn’t have done better.

Didn’t hear him use the words ‘stupid’ nor ‘dumb’ nor ‘selfish’ with regards to Maysie. Funny thing, that. 🤨

An excellent presser from Goody.  Very balanced and unemotional, didn't shy away from issues of the week.

51 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Absolute clown Macca, sounded like he was very happy with himself after that comment, could almost hear him giggling. 

All the events of this week are absolutely perfect. Media exaggerating and enjoying dragging us through the mud, everyone over-stating cultural problems and the like. All absolutely perfect. 

Our biggest threat to not winning the flag is ourselves, and more specifically complacency. 

All this week will do, is put some fire in the belly and switch the players on for the traditionally “hard slog” part of the season. 

And then ensure we don’t get complacent when we start playing at our best again.

Onwards and upwards. And Thankyou media for switching from the “Dees won’t lose a game” angle to the “have the wheels fallen off” theme.

 

Great work by Goody there.  Loved his read between the lines comment. We can, and as far as I am concerned, if the leaker of that story was sharing our GF win celebrations in the rooms last year, they are an absolutely two-faced pathetic nacissistic egomaniacal grub.

I haven't followed club politics so can anyone join the dots for me?