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https://www.afl.com.au/news/776120/dockers-suspend-speedy-forward-for-drinking-on-short-break

I assume this huge marble table is not the one they are being accused of breaking

16 minutes ago, red and blue forever said:

I assume this huge marble table is not the one they are being accused of breaking

Can't believe the venue doesn't have CCTV footage

3 hours ago, monoccular said:

Defeatism never wins anything. 

And the lack of midfield pressure didn’t contribute?? That is an awful comment about OUR players  

Hypocrite! I blame the defence and you blame the midfield. And my comment is awful. No one should except mediocrity. They are mediocre players that should be replaced hopefully they will be replaced by Hibberd and Turner respectively. I do think they cost us the game and I don't see anything wrong with that.

1 hour ago, DubDee said:

I don't find the comment by May that bad. We won by 74 points so it's clearly illogical and I would find it hard to take offense (trying to put myself in Melk's place). If May had said - you were too sht of a player to get a game in the granny - that would sting as it is true

I wonder what Melksham's last barb to May was.

Either way, Melksham had zero justification to punch him

If I was in melksham's shoes I would be shattered to miss the grand final which is something I would have been working and dreaming off since a child. I would've felt disappointed since I'd been a large part of the Melbourne team for the large few years. I also would have an insecurity knowing that I am not as good as I use to be and not good enough to make the team. 

If a senior team mate decided to pick on my insecurity as 'banter' I'd be [censored] off. I don't think it's clearly illogical, because May is clearly picking on life ambitions of any afl player. Yes melksham shouldn't of punched him but it wouldve been a lot easier for May not to say we wouldve lost a grand final if you played. 

42 minutes ago, Deefiant said:

If I was in melksham's shoes I would be shattered to miss the grand final which is something I would have been working and dreaming off since a child. I would've felt disappointed since I'd been a large part of the Melbourne team for the large few years. I also would have an insecurity knowing that I am not as good as I use to be and not good enough to make the team. 

If a senior team mate decided to pick on my insecurity as 'banter' I'd be [censored] off. I don't think it's clearly illogical, because May is clearly picking on life ambitions of any afl player. Yes melksham shouldn't of punched him but it wouldve been a lot easier for May not to say we wouldve lost a grand final if you played. 

Yes it was a particularly nasty thing to say - could be the grog talking but that's no excuse

It's lucky he's such a good player but the club and leadership group saw fit to suspend him anyway. A brave call

If we defeat the Pies without May all will be ok (at least for us supporters) but if we lose, there could be some fallout and the natives could get restless.  And the media will get stuck in you'd imagine

We just have to win ... forward line needs to fire and the backline will have to make do without May again

And as we all know he's way more than just a top level full back.  He's the general back there and organises the other backmen like he's another coach.  And the other backmen play better with May playing his role

We didn't need this sort of thing to happen but it has happened and we're just going to have to make-do without him

 

6 hours ago, Stiff Arm said:

Sounds like it might have been more than one punch, according to the restaurant. No doubt there will be some vision and more detail coming out when the press dig deeper into their pockets.

If May said what has been reported, it was cheap and about as low as you can go with a team mate. That he was drinking when he should not have been speaks volumes.

However, posters saying a punch by Melk was justified should spend a Sat night in a hospital ER. A single punch can kill. A punch delivered by a once talented amo boxer with a few drinks under his belt even more so. Not to mention May's concussion

Its dumb all round

If I read correctly earlier 6-7 were drinking. I’m blown away by this. If true, I find that more troubling than the incident itself: I expect May to do this. But I don’t expect 6-7 of the starting 18 to be on it. Is there such little self awareness. I want to know if Trac, Gawn, Oliver or Brayshaw were there. We know Viney wasn’t, and can imagine what would’ve happened if he was. Steven May now should be stripped of any leadership role, and should be made to adhere to any standards Bowey sets down back. That will keep May humble, hungry, and he’d respect a professional like Jake Bowey. As a really passionate Dees man, I feel so thankful that we have Goodwin right now, because I know he will be furious. 

10 hours ago, deegirl said:

This is the ultimate in idiocy from May.  
 

And he’s my imaginary football boyfriend 😂

Hands off deegirl, he’s mine. 

2016 - Boyd had a fight with Cordy (Dogs won the flag)

2019 - Stack and Coleman Jones had a fight (Tiges won the flag) 

…………. It’s not the end of the world and will galvanise the Dees 

It's a shame Michael Fredrick didn't get his ban when we played Fremantle. 

Team mates have dust ups all the time. As long as they have both cleared the air and there’s no lingering resentment this isn’t an issue. 

All that matters now is Monday and beating the pies. Do that and this week will be forgotten pretty quickly

I still can't fathom how may knowing he was in the middle of concussion protocols, he knew he couldn't drink but sat there & ordered one in front of his teammates. 

A 30 year old should know better especially after this isn't his first incident

6 hours ago, Macca said:

Yes it was a particularly nasty thing to say - could be the grog talking but that's no excuse

It's lucky he's such a good player but the club and leadership group saw fit to suspend him anyway. A brave call

If we defeat the Pies without May all will be ok (at least for us supporters) but if we lose, there could be some fallout and the natives could get restless.  And the media will get stuck in you'd imagine

 

 

May will get pilloried whether we do or don't.  More so if we don't though is my guess Macca.

 

6 minutes ago, BDA said:

Team mates have dust ups all the time. As long as they have both cleared the air and there’s no lingering resentment this isn’t an issue. 

All that matters now is Monday and beating the pies. Do that and this week will be forgotten pretty quickly

Agree re the first part but its usually at training not a boozy night out.  Dust ups/incidents with other knuckle head members of the public on a boozy night out .....yes.

Re second part ..

We haven't faired well without the two book ends (May & Tommy) so far against 'in form' top 8 teams.  I'm not sure it will just suddenly click and we start beating them from here without both of them back in (and /or another KTF finally hitting some form and the scoreboard!).

Who has the alleged hand injury requiring surgery?

1 minute ago, Satan said:

Who has the alleged hand injury requiring surgery?

Say what? 

Who is telling the media what May said to set Melkdsham off?  Hopefully, none of the other players there nor someone at the club.

 

Before we hang May for his barb to Melksham about the GF we don't know what came before it.  It is unlikely May or anyone would throw that into a conversation out of the blue.  I can think of some friendly sledges toward May that may have prompted his retort to Melksham.  Then it all went pear shape.  Nothing excuses all the things that were wrong about those events but context is important regarding what started it.

Whatever started it, the right penalties were given. 

Edited June 7, 20222 yr by Lucifers Hero

Satan or Mods can we add a poll to this thread ....

Was suspending May this week the correct decision?

Yes/No

I'm guessing none of our leaders were there.  We know Viney wasn't.  And it is a safe bet Lever,  McDonald and Gawn were home with their families and bubs. 

So May and Melksham were probably the most senior players attending..

Front page two days running 😁

 

Someone asked about CCTV.  Entrecote is a fancy establishment so it is unimaginable that the restaurant doesn't have security cameras inside, especially in reception (where the desk was allegedly damaged) and outside its premises being so close to a train station.

And there is a fair chance the staff would have filmed the scuffle on a phone if only for insurance claims .

The tabloids would be at work trying to dig up the videos!  Sadly more trash reporting likely to come.

Based on some reports in this thread Entrecote's management is far from impressed so hopefully the guys have come completely clean on what happened and they and the club apologise to Entrecote quick smart.  It would have been a good move to do so before and in the press release.

Edited June 7, 20222 yr by Lucifers Hero

13 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

I'm guessing none of our leaders were there.  We know Viney wasn't.  And it is a safe bet Lever,  McDonald and Gawn were home with their families and bubs. 

So May and Melksham were probably the most senior players attending..

Gazza on SEN says both leaders (Gawny & Viney) werent present.

Thank goodness they went to the Sorrento instead!😄

Edited June 7, 20222 yr by Demon Dynasty

Media sensationalism 

Cost of living exploding 

War in Ukraine 

Gun violence in US 

Road toll rising once again 

lives lost due to Covid

but … hsun sensationise this 

Serenity now !!! 

1 minute ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Media sensationalism 

Cost of living exploding 

War in Ukraine 

Gun violence in US 

Road toll rising once again 

lives lost due to Covid

but … hsun sensationise this 

Serenity now !!! 

I'm surprised you are surprised NS!

 

4 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

While I don’t think a club is defined by whether it can best Collingwood while being in a form slump - the next 3 months will define a small number of players, this group as a whole, and the club itself.