POSTGAME: Rd 06 vs Richmond

[Deemania since 56 6,650]

2 hours ago, Lil_red_fire_engine said:

Agree, it was predominantly where we took the shots from and a lack of settling and rushing some kicks. We seemed obsessed with kicking to contests deep and tight in the pocket. Particularly first half too many times where our forwards did not separate and therefore the only space was deep and wide or no one leading at the kicker for an easier set shot.  Part of that is the way the Richmond backs set up and block you centrally but most of it was just not thinking it through. 

Our kickling to the pocket is repetitive yet it has proven to be good value and effective so far this season. However, it is quite predicatable now, for the opposition. The talls would benefit from leading to spaces simultaneously, allowing the smalls to gap fill pockets and side-occupy central opposition defences.

[Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,778]

1 hour ago, mo64 said:

I don't think that Weid cemented his place in the team based on that performance. Yes he kicked 3, but a couple were gifts. 

At Casey, T Mac played the role that we need. He impacted contests, applied pressure and hit the scoreboard. Weid ticked one box.

Weid plays next week, but his position in the team isn't assured.

Spot on

He was a bystander at too many contests

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

45 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

I love that we’ve completely stolen the Anzac Day tradition and made it much, much better. The night game is much more symbolic on camera - and so it’s the lasting media image of the round.

It also doesn’t hurt that both Collingwood and Essendon are irrelevant.

The pregame was amazing last night. I love that the teams sneak on to the crowd in the cover of darkness. It was all so well done. Great acoustics at the G too.

It has become a special night, it’s the kids’ favourite event at the footy these days and they were fortunate enough to soak it all in from up close last night.

[adonski 12,167]

2 minutes ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Spot on

He was a bystander at too many contests

You should watch Jamarra play 

Sets up a chair and puts his feet up when the ball hits the deck 

[Engorged Onion 10,215]

1 minute ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Our kickling to the pocket is repetitive yet it has proven to be good value and effective so far this season. However, it is quite predicatable now, for the opposition. The talls would benefit from leading to spaces simultaneously, allowing the smalls to gap fill pockets and side-occupy central opposition defences.

The beauty is within the predictability…  so far this year we’ve had

10,3,9,2,7 and 21 more scoring shots in each round, not only that, it’s where the opposition have their shots from typically. 

there’s more to write but I’m off for a pcr 

 

[Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,778]

57 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Some poor decision making didn't help like when Fritsch marked about 30 mtr from goal at an ok angle and swung round for a snap at goal

Was that called play on by ump for not-15? He paused and seemed to be waved on

[Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,778]

3 minutes ago, adonski said:

You should watch Jamarra play 

Sets up a chair and puts his feet up when the ball hits the deck 

That shouldn't be our benchmark, it right for us to set higher standards

[Lucifers Hero 39,852]

1 minute ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Was that called play on by ump for not-15? He paused and seemed to be waved on

Not sure.  I didn't notice the umpire but you could be right.

[Deemania since 56 6,650]

6 minutes ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Spot on

He was a bystander at too many contests

I get canned for it, but bystanding is his main fault - he is brilliantly fed by our forward thrusts but does not lead to better opportunities often enough. He is a beautiful kick for goal but poor on clean possessions that he could win far more frequently to establish a positive trademark. 

[monoccular 17,432]

11 hours ago, A F said:

One of the strangest, if not the strangest games I've ever watched. Had we kicked straight it would have been near 100 points. We were that dominant, hey? And Richmond were lucky they took their chances, otherwise it could have still been 5-6 goal win. 30+ scoring shots is insane. And yet with 5 minutes to go there was a slight pang of nervousness amongst the MFC crowd. Bizarre.

I had one concern going into the game. All I'll say is I hope Jake Lever is back next week. Alternatively, Turner might need a game.

Turner did not play for Casey - I understand that he is still injured

[Adam The God 30,261]

2 hours ago, Nasher said:

And his comeback is still 3-4 weeks off according to the AFL app.

You’d play Tommo before resorting to an L plater anyway.

Tomlinson more realistic than Turner, but different player to Smith and Turner. Interceptors versus lockdown. But yeah, I'm being slightly facetious. Against a top 8 or top 4 team we cannot have Smith playing in that back 6.

[Pates 9,660]

So because I was curious and because I feel us going 6-0 after our first premiership should be recognised even more this is how the last 5 premiers have gone in their first 6 rounds:

Dogs: 4-2

Rich: 5-1

West Coast: 3-3

Rich: 3-2 & 1 draw

Rich: 3-3

There were plenty of question marks on whether we might have a premiership hangover, but honestly it looks like a continuation of last season. The fact it was only 22 points in the end will mean the domination we had for practically the entire game will get lost. The last team to go 6-0 to start their season after a premiership was the Hawks premiers of 2013. They ended up losing in round 8. 

[Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,778]

1 minute ago, Deemania since 56 said:

I get canned for it, but bystanding is his main fault - he is brilliantly fed by our forward thrusts but does not lead to better opportunities often enough. He is a beautiful kick for goal but poor on clean possessions that he could win far more frequently to establish a positive trademark. 

Brown was being double teamed, scragged all night, and still managed to get to impact lots of contests

Weid was regularly behind and not quite there, really needs to hit more contests hard and smash packs. Then a few more marks are likely to stick

[monoccular 17,432]

18 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Our kickling to the pocket is repetitive yet it has proven to be good value and effective so far this season. However, it is quite predicatable now, for the opposition. The talls would benefit from leading to spaces simultaneously, allowing the smalls to gap fill pockets and side-occupy central opposition defences.

I was thinking just that last night - if eg Weed and Brown lead to opposite pockets and Fritter stayed home, in rotations and combinations of this, then surely defenders could not double team more than one of them.   

Maybe Goody is keeping this up his sleeve for September?

[buck_nekkid 5,872]

Make no mistake, we thrashed them in all ways but on the scoreboard.

Richmond tried to stop our two key scoring avenues by flooding back and trying to avoid half back intercepts from which we do fast rebounds.  They could hardly take a forward half mark and had little time in forward half after half time.  They had a couple of goals from Joel Smith blunders (not staying accountable on Riewoldt is the biggest one), and a few fast breaks, but just could not break us down.

We seemed to be about 5% off skill wise all over the park in the first half, and maybe some of this was tiger pressure, but I think it was just us. We have such high expectations of the team and the players that the ‘old ways’ now look bad - and they were.  We were too sloppy by hand and foot early.

Kicking for goal was atrocious.  Too many easy shots missed, kicks taken as poor options, not lowering the eyes.  Vlaustin know we were going to bomb it to the fat side pocket and simply sat there are had a feast.  Uncontested intercept after uncontested intercept.

ANB had a stinker - his early disposal and goal kicking were well below par.  Doggo had a quiet one. Kozzie did well at defensive things but did not get the rewards in attack.  Played well as a link on the Lingers wing at times.

Tigers had no answer.  They tried to break us down rather than play their system, and it showed.  Not one for the replay collection, but bank the four points and move on.  Go dees.

Edited April 25, 2022 by buck_nekkid

[leave it to deever 17,511]

Gee the umps were poor again last night. At least not so much with the dissent issue.

But most whistles were met with held breath as to which way it was going.

The prior opportunity seems to be arbitrary at best now.

I thought Tigers were given quite a few bad calls and we experienced what the dogs get on a regular basis. ......bias.

Twas nice.

[Rab D Nesbitt 8,367]

Sheesh. Just watched the replay and looking forward to the post game analysis when they cross to that unwatchable crud called Bounce instead. 

[Macca 16,972]

We were clearly the superior team on the night but just didn't kick straight - which would be an issue if that sort of thing happened all the time

And I don't believe it's happened for quite a while either (where it has been costly) The last time that springs to mind where it did cost us a win was late in the season in 2018 against Sydney

You'd hate for it to happen in a final but again, unless the problem is a frequent one, we should be able to reset the next week

Just checked and we kicked 10.18 in that loss against Sydney in round 21, 2018 then followed up with 16.12 at the Eagles (Win) and then 15.12 vs GWS (Win)  And as we all know, we then played finals where we kicked 10.15 (hmmmm) to 6.10 against the Cats then 16.8 to 10.11 against the Hawks

There may well have been other instances since but none stand out like the Sydney game (which could have, but didn't cost us a finals spot that year) And that's 3 and a half years ago anyway

 

Footnote: I know a few Tiger mates who were at the ground and they never thought they were a chance after quarter time .... very impressed with our relentless style and our all-over defence (not just the backline)  Fitness and running ability was commented on as well as 2nd & 3rd efforts

Edited April 25, 2022 by Macca

[dimmy 1,307]

Just listened to Hardwick's Press Conference. There was no wingeing, just constructive analysis of the difficulties in playing against us at the moment. Long may it continue, because it has been a fair while coming.

I really do like the way Brayshaw Langdon and increasingly Bowey float around the Halfback line . Sets us up beautifully.

[640MD 3,378]

A banner on the bottom of the tv last night had

last 33 games. 28 wins 4 losses 1 draw

you MUST enjoy this time  it will not last forever. On not for 57 years,

enjoy. Go Dees

[Lucifers Hero 39,852]

Love how there is one banner for both teams at ANZAC Eve.

 

Edited April 25, 2022 by Lucifers Hero

[John Crow Batty 8,869]

52 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

The beauty is within the predictability…  so far this year we’ve had

10,3,9,2,7 and 21 more scoring shots in each round, not only that, it’s where the opposition have their shots from typically. 

there’s more to write but I’m off for a pcr 

 

 

58 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Our kickling to the pocket is repetitive yet it has proven to be good value and effective so far this season. However, it is quite predicatable now, for the opposition. The talls would benefit from leading to spaces simultaneously, allowing the smalls to gap fill pockets and side-occupy central opposition defences.

It’s a winning formula that other clubs have not come to terms with. Every club these days tries to flood then pick or scramble their way out of defence to where we already have them covered. Weight of entries eventually grind them down.

Edited April 25, 2022 by John Crow Batty

[leave it to deever 17,511]

58 minutes ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Spot on

He was a bystander at too many contests

I get the feeling Weid will stay in though.

 

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

3 hours ago, old dee said:

A couple of times? My wife kept telling me to calm down the neighbours will hear you. After a while she said you will win this Inspite of the point kicking. Wise woman! 

Haha that’s a standard remark at our household when MFC plays. 

[Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,778]

3 hours ago, hemingway said:

Not the way Goodwin was speaking at the presser. 

Just watched the presser

Thought his first answer about Weid was pretty straight bat and wouldn't have read much into it

Then some reporter asked 3 more questions somewhat in awe pf Weid and Goodwin gave similar agreeing but dead bat type responses. The third question a few mins later, when the reporter drew attention back to Weid was just uncomfortable...