Has 186 been laid to rest?

[Demonstone 19,692]

8 hours ago, Fork 'em said:

I remember a bloke on 'Ology who stated that if we ever did win a flag we'd find the joy of victory short lived and not what we thought it was cracked up to be.

I remember that but it wasn't me who posted it. 

I expect I'll get pilloried for saying this, but that's just how I feel.  "Is that all there is, my friends?"

 

[Cards13 9,117]

15 hours ago, Demon4Life said:

Thankfully I was at home watching on TV for 186. For 148 I was there until the bitter end.

Same same, I’d gone to 148 with some hope (who knows why) and brought along some Kiwi mates hoping to get them on the Dees wagon… needless to say they were not interested in supporting the Dees. Funny thing though they did end up becoming Dees fans and loved the Premiership.

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

We won a flag, nothing else matters. 

Lot of Cats fans in Ballarat. Havent seen one since September, not even a bumper sticker.

The look on Geelong fans face now when Melbourne is mentioned......priceless.

 

[DeeZone 7,947]

1 hour ago, Demonstone said:

I remember that but it wasn't me who posted it. 

I expect I'll get pilloried for saying this, but that's just how I feel.  "Is that all there is, my friends?"

 

Sorry DS you must have much higher expectations than us mere mortals I have been on a bit of a high since Maxy broke the Cats hearts down at Cardinia Park in Round 23. My football life has changed forever we are no longer the “slum Dogs” we are the best in the business.!!

[TRIGON 4,719]

As a trawl this thread it makes me even more appreciative that the rebuild of the rebuild of the rebuild was a success! 

[tiers 2,785]

2 hours ago, Demonstone said:

 "Is that all there is, my friends?"

 

For those of us who waited every day for 57 years, it is not just all, but it is everything. This time with my family.

Bang! Bang, bang, bang still chokes me up and Max and Goody lifting the cup does it all over again.

This feeling will never go away.

GO DEES

[Demonstone 19,692]

4 hours ago, tiers said:

For those of us who waited every day for 57 years, it is not just all, but it is everything.

Having started following Melbourne in 1965, I was also a member of the "57 years" club. 

A Demons flag was also the last item on my bucket list to be ticked off but the initial euphoria wore off much quicker than it obviously has for many of you.  Maybe I'm just old*, jaded and hard to impress these days.

*  So old that last time I attended an antiques auction, I attracted three bids.

[58er 5,670]

4 hours ago, tiers said:

For those of us who waited every day for 57 years, it is not just all, but it is everything. This time with my family.

Bang! Bang, bang, bang still chokes me up and Max and Goody lifting the cup does it all over again.

This feeling will never go away.

GO DEES

Likewise ( since 1958 supporter every day week month season decade!!! ) so lucky I was able to travel to Perth to see it all live. ( from Brisbane where I live via 2 weeks "quarantine in SA' .

Family in SA and Friend in Perth helped me with accom. And plenty of fun things to do along with some travel highlights.

Best Holiday ( 3 weeks) in Aust. Of my life . 

Thank you everyone Thank you Dees!! 

[Kozzie4PM 765]

47 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

Having started following Melbourne in 1965, I was also a member of the "57 years" club. 

A Demons flag was also the last item on my bucket list to be ticked off but the initial euphoria wore off much quicker than it obviously has for many of you.  Maybe I'm just old*, jaded and hard to impress these days.

*  So old that last time I attended an antiques auction, I attracted three bids.

Fair enough- different people experience things differently.

[Kozzie4PM 765]

27 minutes ago, 58er said:

Likewise ( since 1958 supporter every day week month season decade!!! ) so lucky I was able to travel to Perth to see it all live. ( from Brisbane where I live via 2 weeks "quarantine in SA' .

Family in SA and Friend in Perth helped me with accom. And plenty of fun things to do along with some travel highlights.

Best Holiday ( 3 weeks) in Aust. Of my life . 

Thank you everyone Thank you Dees!! 

Jealous!!! That sounds like a bloody great trip!! 

One thing in our favour is that we are the first flag team in history that has unfinished business - to win one back in Melbourne. And I'm looking forward to watching it happen in the next few years!!

[WalkingCivilWar 33,380]

1 hour ago, Demonstone said:

the initial euphoria wore off much quicker than it obviously has for many of you. 

I thought you were kidding, DS. Now I feel bad for you because you’re missing out on arguably THE best feeling in the world.☹️

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,534]

2 hours ago, Demonstone said:

Having started following Melbourne in 1965, I was also a member of the "57 years" club. 

A Demons flag was also the last item on my bucket list to be ticked off but the initial euphoria wore off much quicker than it obviously has for many of you.  Maybe I'm just old*, jaded and hard to impress these days.

*  So old that last time I attended an antiques auction, I attracted three bids.

Perhaps it's because you've apparently achieved everything else on your bucket list so it pales in comparison with some of the others. 

Edited January 12, 2022 by La Dee-vina Comedia
typo

[Neil Crompton 4,842]

1 hour ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

I thought you were kidding, DS. Now I feel bad for you because you’re missing out on arguably THE best feeling in the world.☹️

I'm a bit like demonstone, WCW. I've bathed in the afterglow for long enough. But it was so sweet that I want more. I'm now in that early expectation / excitement phase for that next one. 

Bit like sex really.

[layzie 29,760]

On 1/11/2022 at 4:08 PM, WalkingCivilWar said:

For mine, that’d be a big bunch of nope right there. I look at it this way: if someone was to say to me now (at a match this year), “Today you’re gonna see your beloved Dees cop a humiliating thrashing to the tune of 186 points at the hands of Essendon (my scenario so I get to choose the opponent 😉), the likes of which will break your heart and leave you mentally scarred for god knows how long… but don’t worry, it guarantees you a flag in 10 years” I’d definitely say NO! 
It’s not just that 10 years is such a long time to wait. It’s also because no promise of anything in the future is worth suffering that happen again.

On the subject of hypotheticals, on the morning of the GF my son put this to me: Melbourne win the GF today, or Melbourne lose but you get a million dollars. What would you choose? I said Melbourne winning the flag, because a million dollars may or may not make me happy, whereas Melbourne winning the flag is 100”% guaranteed to make me happy. He said, “the disturbing thing is, I know you mean that” and left the room shaking his head. 😆

That's exactly why I put the question out there WCW, because I reckon this forum would be split right down the middle.

I personally said yes because at the time it would have given me some comfort knowing that it would at least happen in my lifetime. Yeah it was humiliating and traumatising, but I'd already been humiliated and traumatised plenty before 186.

On the million dollars thing, I don't think there's a better way to learn the lesson of money only being money than being handed a million dollars. The only reprieve with that scenario is that we'd be allowed to make the GF again. What if someone said a million dollars for MFC to never win in your lifetime? The guy offering that may not have ear drums left after presenting that offer.

[WalkingCivilWar 33,380]

39 minutes ago, layzie said:

On the million dollars thing, I don't think there's a better way to learn the lesson of money only being money than being handed a million dollars. The only reprieve with that scenario is that we'd be allowed to make the GF again. What if someone said a million dollars for MFC to never win in your lifetime? The guy offering that may not have ear drums left after presenting that offer.

That’s a great question. Having given it some *thought I reckon I’d still knock back the $$$.

*an entire nanosecond 

[Macca 16,173]

13 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

That’s a great question. Having given it some *thought I reckon I’d still knock back the $$$.

*an entire nanosecond 

Well, what if the question was posed in early 2013 WCW? haha

 

[WalkingCivilWar 33,380]

51 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

I'm a bit like demonstone, WCW. I've bathed in the afterglow for long enough. But it was so sweet that I want more. I'm now in that early expectation / excitement phase for that next one. 

Bit like sex really.

I sincerely hope you don’t have to wait another 57 years!

But yeah, I understand that. The length and the intensity of the afterglow differs from person to person. 

[WalkingCivilWar 33,380]

5 minutes ago, Macca said:

Well, what if the question was posed in early 2013 WCW? haha

 

Might have to give that a little more thought. Maybe two nanoseconds. 😁

[Mazer Rackham 14,970]

11 hours ago, Demonstone said:

I remember that but it wasn't me who posted it. 

I expect I'll get pilloried for saying this, but that's just how I feel.  "Is that all there is, my friends?"

Consider thyself pilloried, DS.

Points for the Peggy Lee reference but I'm afraid you are still in deficit.

 

GO DEMONS!!!!

[Macca 16,173]

There was a bloke here about 8 years ago who spat it and vowed to never support the Demons again ... also stated that he was going to support Richmond! 

Turns out he got 3 flags but did he?  You just can't switch past a certain age (certainly not as an adult)

[Biffen 12,431]

I’ll get off my magnanimous, winning high horse for a minute to give my serious thoughts on 186 and other rivalries.

We have only just begun to repay the the supporters and our enemies a huge debt.

We've removed Geelong from finals but we haven’t destroyed them yet.

We need to crush North about 24 times in a row to break even., 

Part of the joy of winning is crushing souls into the dust.

Show me a true champion and I’ll show you a sadist.

In victory revenge and in defeat malice.

[Mazer Rackham 14,970]

33 minutes ago, Macca said:

There was a bloke here about 8 years ago who spat it and vowed to never support the Demons again ... also stated that he was going to support Richmond! 

It's well known that you can't change clubs. It's like politicians who change parties. They're never quite trusted by the new mob, and definitely not by their old mob. Hollow victories indeed.

35 minutes ago, Macca said:

Turns out he got 3 flags but did he?

No. He got to stand in the corner and watch while the cool kids partied. Lose-lose.

[BDA 20,628]

26 minutes ago, Biffen said:

I’ll get off my magnanimous, winning high horse for a minute to give my serious thoughts on 186 and other rivalries.

We have only just begun to repay the the supporters and our enemies a huge debt.

We've removed Geelong from finals but we haven’t destroyed them yet.

We need to crush North about 24 times in a row to break even., 

Part of the joy of winning is crushing souls into the dust.

Show me a true champion and I’ll show you a sadist.

In victory revenge and in defeat malice.

 

[Macca 16,173]

1 hour ago, Mazer Rackham said:

It's well known that you can't change clubs. It's like politicians who change parties. They're never quite trusted by the new mob, and definitely not by their old mob. Hollow victories indeed.

They're all power hungry crooks at heart (and incompetant!)

1 hour ago, Mazer Rackham said:

No. He got to stand in the corner and watch while the cool kids partied. Lose-lose.

Or,  he might have been a sociopath like Lance.  Win anyway will do!

Edited January 12, 2022 by Macca

[Macca 16,173]

I distinctly remember when Fitzroy beat us by 190 points in 1979 but because we defeated a strong Essendon line up by 7 goals the following week, that game seems to have been forgotten somewhat.  Again, I'm not sure why as 190 points still remains the greatest winning margin in VFL/AFL history

Can't say I have given 186 a lot of thought over the years since it happened but it does serve as a reference point to how low we had sunk back then ... and most of the matches in 2012 & 2013 were just more of the same

Interesting that Jordie Mac picked up 25 possessions in that infamous game though.  A reasonable effort when considering that the Cats seemed to have the ball on a string for most of the day

And the Demon's Graham Gaunt picked up 33 possessions in that 190 point loss all those years ago!  That's admirable!