It is time BT is pensioned off

[binman 44,316]

4 hours ago, Doggas front teeth said:

On the final siren, the most important moment in the club's history: "Every heart is beating true and blue for the red and blue" ?!?!?! come on man

What about his the 'dees need two of tbe next 3 goals' 

WTF

[Deelifer 22]

Dees flag 20 is spot on.

Can’t stand the bias that BT has against the dees.   He is a very poor commentator.  Makes plenty of incorrect predictions and statements during a game due to his bias and desire to be a “Wowee “ commentator.  

 

Plenty of others would be better.  Luke Darcy for one.  
 

I thought JB was quite good.

[binman 44,316]

You couldn't write this stuff. Unless you are the herald sun.

Just jumped from this thread to the Hun ans read this headline 

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/top-50-afl-media-performers-see-who-made-the-2021-list/news-story/7bcc9f26b878586a94d361d21a360d4d

[adonski 12,768]

Clearly these rankings weren't done by Champion Data

Edited October 27, 2021 by adonski

[picket fence 17,890]

5 hours ago, DeesFlag2020 said:

Having now watched the finals replays on numerous occasions, l think it is time we use our new found power in the AFL community to demand some changes in the leading commentary teams. The first to go must be BT. Not only is he so often factually wrong, but his understanding of basic tactics is so rudimentary as to be embarrassing. He is also quite open about his prejudice against the Dees. For instance:

1. l remember during the commentary for the game against Richmond on ANZAC eve last  when we were leading by over fifty points, James Brayshow suggested that Melbourne should be now favourite for the flag. BT’s reaction, “l will never believe that until Max Gawn holds up the cup in September, no matter how successful they are during the season”

2. He has no understanding of basic team tactics eg. during the GF Langdon gathered the ball on the half back flank and raced up the the wing with Kossie racing with an opponent from the centre to get in position  on the wing. Further up the field McDonald was racing towards the boundary line on the half forward flank with his opponent to give him an additional option. Langdon chose McDonald which prompted an outcry from BT saying he should have chosen Kossie (“l like Kossie” were l think his words). Several minutes later, Daisy Pearce, who was sharing the commentary with him and who has ten times his football sophistication, pointed out that he kicked it to half forward to lessen the risk of a turnover which could result in a goal to the bulldogs. Pretty basic football common sense but totally lost in his populist nonsense. 

3  Angus Bradshaw: when the Dees were surging in the 3rd quarter of the Grannie, Brayshaw took an extremely courageous diving mark on the half forward flank about 45 metres out on a severe angle. If he goaled he would put us in front for the first time since early in the second quarter. He deliberately walked back slowly with his back to the play concentrating on what needed to be done to covert. BT went ballistic saying he needed to concentrate on the game. He clearly had no idea of Brayshaw’s history in poor accuracy in kicking for goal. In fact for much of the season he was having special tuition at training every week to improve his goal kicking at Choco’s skills academy and clearly was using that to ensure he nailed it. He did, which was a key part of our resurgence. The deliberate slow walk back was part of the process to ensure successful convergence. If BT had just basic football knowledge he would have known that.

4 Neal-Bullen marked 40 metres out in the last quarter when we were six or seven goals up. BT said he has to kick this so that the side will be able to enjoy the rest of the game, but if he doesn’t they won’t. This of course was totally nonsensical,. This can be bracketed with his ridiculous comment with five minutes to go saying “not a single person had left the ground”. How could he possibly know that?—- and it was said very dogmatically. 

I’m sure there are other examples that others could add to this list.

We can do a lot better than BT. Time has passed both him and Eddie Maguire by. With much more sophisticated, and/or younger commentators (eg James Brayshaw, Daisy Pearce, Gerard Wheatley, Nick Riewoldt) providing much more nuanced commentary on a game which has become much more complex and subtle over the last 20 years, there is no long longer room for these dinosaurs. 

I propose we keep a record of all our examples of these incompetencies on Demonland, publicise them, and build a case for BT’s removal. We can do a lot better.  

Agree and do you know who I would like to be Boundary rider/Special Comments man?????????

our very own NATHAN JONES!! Speaks well , knows the game and players and would provide a sense of realism and brevity, not to mention current footballing knowledge!! Plus he is GENUINE! People relate to that!

Edited October 27, 2021 by picket fence

[Bitter but optimistic 22,289]

BT is good for a laugh !

I’d be happy to keep him as long as he defers to Daisy …… let’s say …… most of the time !

[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,654]

Tv shows a bunch of people in blonde wigs, sitting there in stunned silence, all dead quiet

 

BT- “the Bailey Smith cheer squad sitting talking amongst themselves “

 

The [censored] just makes it up

[bush demon 2,130]

Where were you guys when fellow grandstanders Sandy Roberts, Peter Landy and Michael Williamson big-noted themselves  through the long seasons of black and white telly? The mighty BT is streets ahead. Television has to appeal to a broader demographic, not just 'centre-clearance analysts'.

PS Bush Demon goes Bang, bang, bang, bang.

[bush demon 2,130]

1 minute ago, bush demon said:

Where were you guys when fellow grandstanders Sandy Roberts, Peter Landy and Michael Williamson big-noted themselves  through the long seasons of black and white telly? The mighty BT is streets ahead. Television has to appeal to a broader demographic, not just 'centre-clearance analysts'.

PS Bush Demon goes Bang, bang, bang, bang.

As a second post-script I don't suppose anyone here remembers BT on 3UZ with a character called 'Rocky' - this was BT on training wheels - truly humble and not prone to hyperbole or over-statement.

[dl4e 5,851]

BT was a bozo on the footy field and in the commentary box, However would you prefer McEvany again ? Also I don't find BT to be anti melbourne.

[Bates Mate 4,511]

9 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I concur with what he said in point 1.

Same. Ch 7 commentary sucks and not a bt fan. Best commentary was final against Brisbane Jason Richardson just calls games but amazing but didn't get in the way and make it about him. Hamish can't stand the bloke in presentation mode but is passable commentating and generally just calls the play

[DeesFlag2020 90]

1 hour ago, bush demon said:

Where were you guys when fellow grandstanders Sandy Roberts, Peter Landy and Michael Williamson big-noted themselves  through the long seasons of black and white telly? The mighty BT is streets ahead. Television has to appeal to a broader demographic, not just 'centre-clearance analysts'.

PS Bush Demon goes Bang, bang, bang, bang.

That was more than 50 years ago. Surely we can be a little more modern…..

[bush demon 2,130]

7 hours ago, DeesFlag2020 said:

That was more than 50 years ago. Surely we can be a little more modern…..

If you don't like BT turn down the sound on your device, it's just theatre nothing more. We are lucky to have free games, you can also go to kayo.

[DeesFlag2020 90]

1 hour ago, bush demon said:

If you don't like BT turn down the sound on your device, it's just theatre nothing more. We are lucky to have free games, you can also go to kayo.

I object to mediocrity wherever it is, especially when it is forced on us by the Murdochs. The AFL grand final is now a major global TV sporting event and the international showcase of our great game. We should object to having that fronted by such a mediocrity as BT, especially when there are plenty of other more highly competent younger alternatives. 

[Demonstone 23,214]

9 hours ago, dl4e said:

BT was a bozo on the footy field and in the commentary box, However would you prefer McEvany again ?

It's not a matter of one or the other.  I would prefer neither of them.  That's why I mute the commentary.

[Spargonicus 539]

14 hours ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

BT is good for a laugh !

I’d be happy to keep him as long as he defers to Daisy …… let’s say …… most of the time !

I agree. I just don't get the absolute hate for BT pretty much across the board. I realise I'm in the tiny minority here.

I'd put Brayshaw way below BT - just so annoying with that gravelly, uber-bloke-ish commentary completely lacking any insight or even humour. The 'Bang bang' call in the GF was his only good moment in the whole season that I can remember.

At least BT has humour, just don't expect insight from him - he can leave that to the others like Daisy.

[Wrecker46 3,061]

BT should become Daisy's bootstudder. He would be more value there.

[Pates 9,661]

Where BT grates me is when he throws in his own comments rather than commentating on the game. I think his general commentary on the play is up to scratch, it’s just when he makes his own special comments that he goes off track. He has a group of experts to defer to for special comments and most of the like they get it bang on. Leppa, Hodge, as our own Daisy all give great insights. 

Stick to who’s got the ball, who’s taken the mark, and who’s kicked the goal. 

I thought Brayshaw was good for the most part on the night, stuck to his role. 

[Fritta The Hair G.O.A.T. 510]

Some other ones (going off memory so might not be exact):

 

"Melbourne fans in that pocket must be feeling unbelievably"

"Bullen from 47"

He also called the centre square the goalsquare, and was easily the most disruptive of the commentary team. Would yell over the top of others giving insights to the game to say something devoid of substance like "GEE, WHAT A GAME". 

Also there were multiple times that Daisy would give some genuinely good insight and BT would just reply "WOW". Almost condescending. Too often he tries to force his personality and opinions in, just call the game mate. 

 

And he absolutely does hate the Dees - a nightmare commentary match-up would be BT commentating the Dees vs 22 Tom Hawkins, would be absolutely insufferable

[Fanatique Demon 2,660]

15 hours ago, picket fence said:

our very own NATHAN JONES!! Speaks well , knows the game and players and would provide a sense of realism and brevity, not to mention current footballing knowledge!! Plus he is GENUINE! People relate to that!

Speaks bloody well, knows the bloody game and would provide a sense of bloody realism, etc.

[Smokey 4,389]

It's just shattering to think we'll never get the privilege of hearing Cometti call a game again. Saddens me deeply 

[leave it to deever 17,577]

14 hours ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

Tv shows a bunch of people in blonde wigs, sitting there in stunned silence, all dead quiet

 

BT- “the Bailey Smith cheer squad sitting talking amongst themselves “

 

The [censored] just makes it up

He's entertaining at least. I wonder if the other commentators laugh at him.

[sugar 46]

Can't stand BT. He thinks he is funny and entertaining but he is tiresome and loves the boys club banter which takes away from the game and drives me nuts. 

I celebrated when McAvaney left but didn't dream it could get worse! 

Bring in recent ex footballers who understand the game and specialist commentators to support them. Daisy is great, Abbey is good as a boundary rider, Hodge is pretty good, Hudson is good, I don't mind Whateley, There are a plethora of better options.

[Pates 9,661]

1 hour ago, Smokey said:

It's just shattering to think we'll never get the privilege of hearing Cometti call a game again. Saddens me deeply 

Cometti is/was an absolute gem of a commentator. He never strayed from his role, which is play by play, but his little bits of personality were the cherry on top to what was happening. 

Sadly the up-and-coming heir to the throne of main commentator for Seven would have to Hamish McLachlan, can’t stand him. 

[Diamond_Jim 12,659]

The real problem is that if BT was removed they would replace him with someone similar.

Perhaps scope for some new commentators to break in via community radio that marketed itself as an alternative tv commentary.

And of course we need someone to invent an app to synch the radio and the TV.

While Push red for Ed on Foxtel was discontinued it was a groundbreaker on how we could do things