2021 Phantom Draft

[Clintosaurus 7,849]

9 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

I also think Howes has genuine claims as a first rounder and would be right in the mix for our pick. 

I'm very big on Howes. Reckon he is someone Taylor and Goody would love. Massive upside.

[ChaserJ 5,096]

The players we’ve been linked to (at this stage) appear to be in the similar mould...athletic & versatile. 

A benefit of having a reasonably balanced list is we’re in a really good spot to take the best of a certain type and plug them in wherever we may need them.

Howes would be a good pick for us, Twomey also links us to some versatile hb types, which in time could give us the chance to have a look at Riv getting some mid rotation time.

[Whispering_Jack 30,159]

57 minutes ago, durango said:

Does anybody know about Jed Brereton, I know he is 201cm but what is he like as a player or is he just tall.

Probably a firewall behind this but it contains some quotes about him from his coach at Bendigo, Danny O'Bree -

AFL draft 2021: Bendigo’s bonanza crop of talented players 

The tallest Pioneer of them all, Jed Brereton, 201 cm, hailing from Leitchville Gunbower, could be a draft smoky, according to O’Bree.

“His growth this year has been significant,” he said.

“We tried him as a ruckman to start with but with his skillset we put him back as a defender and his improvement just went through the roof.

“He just got better as the year went on

“He’s a very, very good kick and he’s very good below his knees for a 200cm player.

“His improvement in the next 12 months is going to be a really big watch.”

[whatwhat say what 22,763]

draft howes; get callaghan and andrew back from interstate in the years to come

huzzah!

[spirit of norm smith 16,460]

11 hours ago, Clintosaurus said:

I'm very big on Howes. Reckon he is someone Taylor and Goody would love. Massive upside.

Agree. He’s a talent.  Very good mark, skills and second efforts make him versatile across midfield and the forward 50.  Was hoping Howes would somehow slip down to the Dees in the second round but think he will be around the 18-25 draft pick.  

Edited November 18, 2021 by spirit of norm smith
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[Mach5 4,767]

17 hours ago, Clintosaurus said:

I'm very big on Howes. Reckon he is someone Taylor and Goody would love. Massive upside.

Same. I’m thinking he might not even be there for us to take though. 

It looks like there’ll be some quality options available at our pick though. Another shrewd move from our footy dept.

[Lil_red_fire_engine 11,177]

Every way you read the phantom drafts and x player rising in calculations means someone needs to be sliding the other way. Whichever way you cut it there appears to be an abundance of smooth moving mids/flanks which appears to be our best need unless we strongly rate a young tall. With what’s available we know JTs track record over nailing it is second to none.

[rumpole 515]

On 11/18/2021 at 8:25 PM, whatwhat say what said:

draft howes; get callaghan and andrew back from interstate in the years to come

huzzah!

Howes is said to be under strong consideration by the Giants who have been constantly linked with Mac Andrew. 

[The Third Eye 259]

34 minutes ago, rumpole said:

Howes is said to be under strong consideration by the Giants who have been constantly linked with Mac Andrew. 

Who would take Andrew if not GWS? 

The supporters of other clubs on various other online sites I’m reading are only lukewarm about him are more interested in the more popular midsized players in the draft. 

Gold Coast, Fremantle, St Kilda?

[adonski 12,154]

24 minutes ago, The Third Eye said:

Who would take Andrew if not GWS? 

The supporters of other clubs on various other online sites I’m reading are only lukewarm about him are more interested in the more popular midsized players in the draft. 

Gold Coast, Fremantle, St Kilda?

Suns pretty keen on him apparently 

[Nascent 9,215]

Final Siren Podcast

Phantom draft in the form of a podcast from the Rookie Me website formerly known as Draft Central.
 
Melbourne picks were

19. Owens
38. Warner
45. Lohmann
51. Ballantyne
56. Woewodin (matched bid)

[Freddy Fuschia 741]

13 hours ago, adonski said:

Suns pretty keen on him apparently 

Sounds about par for the course with the Suns. They effectively have one pick in this draft after stuffing up their salary cap, list management and letting one of their few veteran hard bodied mids slip to a rival cellar dwellar. Why not take a highly speculative skinny ruck prospect who is said to be AFL ready in 2024?

[Chelly 810]

5 minutes ago, Freddy Fuschia said:

Sounds about par for the course with the Suns. They effectively have one pick in this draft after stuffing up their salary cap, list management and letting one of their few veteran hard bodied mids slip to a rival cellar dwellar. Why not take a highly speculative skinny ruck prospect who is said to be AFL ready in 2024?

Because everyone in the media and most on line experts are saying that he’s guaranteed to go top ten. I thought maybe Fremantle would have a crack at him although they’re well served in the ruck and are pretty much into getting some home grown WA talent.

[spirit of norm smith 16,460]

21 hours ago, Nascent said:

Final Siren Podcast

Phantom draft in the form of a podcast from the Rookie Me website formerly known as Draft Central.
 
Melbourne picks were

19. Owens
38. Warner
45. Lohmann
51. Ballantyne
56. Woewodin (matched bid)

Interesting phantom draft.  Owens comes under the Saints NGA allocations. They’d be majorly [censored]-off if MFC grabbed him at “19”.  
(Saints fans still can’t believe they missed on Petracca). 
 

Owens plays like Jake Stringer from my view.  An agile forward (190cm) who could rotate through stints in the midfield.  He’s a good player, through strong aerial skills and is good in the contest. I thought he’d be mid 2nd round (25-35 range) but given he wins strong contested footy, he may appeal to our 🏆JT⭐️.  

[Nascent 9,215]

Cal on draft countdown said its almost certain to lock in (excluding f/s bids);

North - JHF

GWS - Callaghan

GC - Andrew

[Nascent 9,215]

Melbourne allegedly interested in moving up to GWS 13 which is up for grabs. Other clubs will probably have better offers with future picks.

[adonski 12,154]

4 minutes ago, Nascent said:

Cal on draft countdown said its almost certain to lock in (excluding f/s bids);

North - JHF

GWS - Callaghan

GC - Andrew

I feel like GCS go for the most media hyped pick every year.

[Nascent 9,215]

Bulldogs pick 23 likely to go to Cats.

[adonski 12,154]

Just now, Nascent said:

Melbourne allegedly interested in moving up to GWS 13 which is up for grabs. Other clubs will probably have better offers with future picks.

Makes sense. GWS must be set on Howes.

[Nascent 9,215]

5 minutes ago, adonski said:

I feel like GCS go for the most media hyped pick every year.

It's an interesting choice on their behalf, clearly a massive talent but not sure the Suns can afford to wait 3-4 years before consistent afl performance. They don't exactly have a great track record of developing talent either.

[Nascent 9,215]

8 minutes ago, adonski said:

Makes sense. GWS must be set on Howes.

GWS will surely have more midfielders wanting out for more opportunity if they keep drafting them. Though Howes has a bit more point of difference up forward.

[Colm 2,157]

22 minutes ago, Nascent said:

Melbourne allegedly interested in moving up to GWS 13 which is up for grabs. Other clubs will probably have better offers with future picks.

Interesting I wonder which player we are after. Maybe Sinn or Goater?!

I hope Brisbane don’t get it as they have been linked with lots of player that we have. 
The flip side is our pick is before there lions pick and we have been linked with Howes. 
Richmond are probably in the driving seat to get pick 13. 

[DeeSpencer 25,713]

GWS recruiting manager was fairly cagey, talked up the 4 players they liked and didn’t confirm or deny any bids.

My guess is they bid on Darcy, don’t bid on Daicos due to a deal with the Pies and end up taking Callaghan rather than rolling the dice on Mac or Gibcus.

I definitely think they’ll put 13 on the table for a future first if the top line talls are gone. Would they consider 13 for 17 and 39 to slide down and take someone in that second group of talls like JVR - maybe. 

 

[IvanBartul13 2,564]

9 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

GWS recruiting manager was fairly cagey, talked up the 4 players they liked and didn’t confirm or deny any bids.

My guess is they bid on Darcy, don’t bid on Daicos due to a deal with the Pies and end up taking Callaghan rather than rolling the dice on Mac or Gibcus.

I definitely think they’ll put 13 on the table for a future first if the top line talls are gone. Would they consider 13 for 17 and 39 to slide down and take someone in that second group of talls like JVR - maybe. 

 

GWS have a problem in that there is no real advantage for them trading down as any pick in the 30s for example would be inefficiently consumed matching a bid for Josh Fahey.  It would make more sense for them to trade down and get a future pick as the benefit, which rules us out.  St Kilda are another team that could benefit from a trade down, but they are hamstrung for the same reason.

[Nascent 9,215]

Taylor on afl radio tomorrow.