49 minutes ago, forever demons said:

Seems to me there is a lot of conjecture over a player who is on the market with only potential as his sale point.Had a great 3rd qtr in the gf,since then not much to crow about.Who ever gets him is backing a long shot,big risk in my view

I agree.  For a player worth 2 first round picks should be a consistent match winner. He is a fine prospect but i suspect we will spend the next 8 years of his career reading about what his best position is.  I hope he thrives at Freo, but he isnt a generational ruckman. That guy is the current captain. 

9 minutes ago, Redleg said:

I don't think players give a rat's about that.

 

i don't know. Maybe not but i think when a player has decided to move to a new team, if push comes to shove, he'll act in his new teams best interests rather than the old team. 

If Freo budge from their current offer (i highly doubt it) I'm pretty sure it won't be because of prompting from LJ or his camp

1 hour ago, CYB said:

Parting ways with an employer that has treated you with respect with a big F U would say a lot about him. I do wonder if it would effect his standing with the players. 

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Mate as if they honestly care. James Harmes is currently partying up in the USA having a grand old time.

Do you honestly think he's thinking right now "Jesus, bloody Jacko.. bloody young fella wants to go home so I better delete his number off my phone"...

The players will happily welcome Jacko back when they have their 10 year premiership reunion. 

14 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

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Mate as if they honestly care. James Harmes is currently partying up in the USA having a grand old time.

Do you honestly think he's thinking right now "Jesus, bloody Jacko.. bloody young fella wants to go home so I better delete his number off my phone"...

The players will happily welcome Jacko back when they have their 10 year premiership reunion. 

This might upset a lot of people, but in my experience, very often fans hurt more than players at losses.

Further, very often fans are more invested in their club, than some of the players.

Take #13, next year's first rounder and run!

Be done with it....

For those people that are stressing over this, try take some perceptive. This isn't the be all.

Remember what it felt like during those 2013/14 years etc, give or take 3 years lol. Since then we have won a premiership (still can't believe it) and we will contend every single year for at least the next 3-5 years. Getting a pick inside the top 10 over pick 13 from a big picture isn't worth the mental energy. 

There are too many variables that go into a player becoming a gun, that pick 13 or pick 8 doesn't really matter. I would love to stick it to Fremantle, but the odds the 5 picks earlier will have any impact on our future premierships is ridiculous. 

26 minutes ago, Redleg said:

This might upset a lot of people, but in my experience, very often fans hurt more than players at losses.

Further, very often fans are more invested in their club, than some of the players.

It shouldn't upset people but I understand why it does.

People need to start accepting that footy really is business now. 

I love the current job I'm in now because of the great team environment we've built and also we socialise well come Friday night after work.

I'm currently getting poached by another organisation with a better pay rate but yet not sure how the culture is. In this day an age of cost of living going up I'd have to seriously consider it right?

Jacko's situation is different because the element of being around family etc. But footy is business to most with certainly another element of being loyal.

Players are programmed differently to us nuffy supporters.

30 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Take #13, next year's first rounder and run!

Be done with it....

We will get more. So no need to run.

The AFL is a powerful collective.

Melbourne won’t be ripped off by a rogue competitor. That competitor will be ‘leaned on.’

Edited October 8, 20222 yr by deefender

41 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Take #13, next year's first rounder and run!

Be done with it....

No worries Peter Bell. 

Do we know for a fact that LJ hasn't toured WC facilities? Or has it just not been reported.

isn't it possible that everything is possible simultaneously with nothing being possible, especially viewed through the lenses of existential cultural di-morphism?

something to ponder whilst we eagerly await the resumption of trade period

6 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

isn't it possible that everything is possible simultaneously with nothing being possible, especially viewed through the lenses of existential cultural di-morphism?

something to ponder whilst we eagerly await the resumption of trade period

I’m waiting for Demonstone to reply.

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

🤣

Mate as if they honestly care. James Harmes is currently partying up in the USA having a grand old time.

Do you honestly think he's thinking right now "Jesus, bloody Jacko.. bloody young fella wants to go home so I better delete his number off my phone"...

The players will happily welcome Jacko back when they have their 10 year premiership reunion. 

And so they should, what a patch he had!!

I’m sure if we’re desperate enough, we could always package up 13, with Freo future first as well as our own future first.

AFL won’t dismiss it, as we’re bringing in youth now compared to youth later. Just depends on how we view next years draft as well.

Id prefer however to recruit for the now, but not many big fish in the sea this year.

1 minute ago, Roost it far said:

And so they should, what a patch he had!!

I’ll certainly celebrate his return for a reunion. Part of the drought breaking flag.

5 hours ago, JimmyGadson said:

Recruiters and draft experts like Cal Twomey have been following these kids long enough to be able to tell if one crop is stronger than another, especially in the first round or so. 

Are you living under a rock? 

To say that next year's group are considered to be stronger gives insight into the amount of top players that are playing high level footy at an underage level. 

It's the opposite of speculation. Experts forming their view based on evidence in the form of thousands of hours of vision. 

 

 

I am sure they believe it too

But 12 months is a long time and i bet you lots of kids in this years draft are also very good prospects 

2 hours ago, Cheney said:

No worries Peter Bell. 

Moron

He's not a Melb player anymore and I don't care which effen facility he's touring, or who he's talking to or how he's going

Adios to a spoilt, entitled culture breaker

Melbourne, just take the offer and here's to picking up a great kid in the draft

 

19 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

If WC end up with 8  and 12, do things get a bit more spicy here?

 

Yep, I'd take 8 and let them keep 12, and we find another late first rounder or early second.

27 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Moron

He's not a Melb player anymore and I don't care which effen facility he's touring, or who he's talking to or how he's going

Adios to a spoilt, entitled culture breaker

Melbourne, just take the offer and here's to picking up a great kid in the draft

 

I am sure LJ holds you in high regard too Jumbo. 
You have been a spiteful angry man ever since The Fritsch lad was recruited. 
Grow up.

LJ has left for family reasons 

10 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I am sure LJ holds you in high regard too Jumbo. 
You have been a spiteful angry man ever since The Fritsch lad was recruited. 
Grow up.

LJ has left for family reasons 

Couldn’t give a continental about his regard for me SWYL

And, it’s none of your business, but I’ve moved on from Watts - perhaps you need to as well?

The Club bent over backwards to look after this kid and nothing was good enough - good riddance, I say

And I’m sure you’ll reply to ensure you have the final say, but I won’t be responding. Say what you like

I look forward to welcoming the new draftee to the club

Adios

4 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Couldn’t give a continental about his regard for me SWYL

And, it’s none of your business, but I’ve moved on from Watts - perhaps you need to as well?

The Club bent over backwards to look after this kid and nothing was good enough - good riddance, I say

And I’m sure you’ll reply to ensure you have the final say, but I won’t be responding. Say what you like

I look forward to welcoming the new draftee to the club

Adios

Tell ya story walking pal…even if you knew the real story, you wouldn’t care

Give my regards to the Earth’s core, won’t you…

4 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

🤣

Mate as if they honestly care. James Harmes is currently partying up in the USA having a grand old time.

Do you honestly think he's thinking right now "Jesus, bloody Jacko.. bloody young fella wants to go home so I better delete his number off my phone"...

The players will happily welcome Jacko back when they have their 10 year premiership reunion. 

Sure thing. There's a great photo of jacko with a few teamates at the B and F.  He'll always be a legend along with his other 22 GF team mates.

1 hour ago, jumbo returns said:

Moron

He's not a Melb player anymore and I don't care which effen facility he's touring, or who he's talking to or how he's going

Adios to a spoilt, entitled culture breaker

Melbourne, just take the offer and here's to picking up a great kid in the draft

 

You don't know that so don't put it in print and lower the tone of this debate.

And as for culture breaker - really.? He was a cog in a great team season in 2021. Lesser impact this year.

Trac, Clarry, Viney et al........ - now there are  the culture leaders that everyone follows.

He's still a kid barely 22. None of us know his personal priorities and should not take his ambition to return home personally IMO

On 10/7/2022 at 3:15 PM, Bay Riffin said:

That deal is not good enough. We need access to elite talent and dont want more picks that are diluted. I say we cannot accept anything where the best pick is 13 (which will as always be about pick 15,16 in reality). Freo and Dees knew they had no high picks weeks ago so how was this not sorted out? what a charade. Freo are taking trhe absolute [censored]. 

Force their hand dees and dont accept 3 lower picks. we ned players with X factor and 2019 we rolled the dice on Jackson and Pickett and won a premiership 2 years later. We need access again to those type of players. 

So Freo should help an opposition side out to their own detriment?

I am glad you arnt running our trades..

We were always getting unders because Freo has the whip hand and Jackson doesn't care what we get for him.

In 3 years time we might have a James Hird ( the player) type 55 pick