15 minutes ago, chookrat said:

That would absolutely be treated as draft tampering and there is no way the AFL would go along with it.

Fair enough... But how did the Lachie Weller trade go ahead then?  Surely they can say there were no guarantees (North could pick him) and the player they got from Freo fits an important need.  There's enough ways they could deny any tampering (although equally it could blow up in their face)

I think we'll happily take a top 10 pick and move on, but anything less than that is robbery. 

The Frogs are still resentful about how we screwed them on the Jesse deal. This is Peter Bell we're talking about remember.

9 minutes ago, adonski said:

Freo holding off trading Lobb so they don't have more to offer imo

 

I thought this at first too but they aren’t even offering what they have at the minute in terms of a future second rounder. 
#Bellend

If they want us to send a pick back, I’d want the future 2nd from North to be added to package.

At that point I’d add a future 3rd (2nd at a stretch) back to them. Failing Freo lifting a finger to get us a pick further up the order, that’s a deal that would work.

1 hour ago, Demons11 said:

That’s not true, he’ll be fine 

Well he hasn't been fine in the past and you only think he may be fine in the future so no guarantees

We need replacements ready in planning

So, Freo have asked Jackson to go in the psd, “demand” $1.5M per year and let other clubs pass until he gets picked up by Freo. Jackson has sad no.

6 minutes ago, KLV said:

So, Freo have asked Jackson to go in the psd, “demand” $1.5M per year and let other clubs pass until he gets picked up by Freo. Jackson has sad no.

Interesting, where did you hear / read that?

Heard from someone that would know, but still don’t shoot the messenger 

12 minutes ago, KLV said:

So, Freo have asked Jackson to go in the psd, “demand” $1.5M per year and let other clubs pass until he gets picked up by Freo. Jackson has sad no.

Did Luke or his mum say "no"? 

1 hour ago, willmoy said:

Just tell him and his mother he goes into the draft and wait for the reaction.

And if he did, North could afford to accept any conditions he applies and then he is their player, to trade in another year.

1 hour ago, kev martin said:

He could end up at Essendon, North, GWS, lol. Especially if WC give away there 2 

Yes, get a one year contract and play for more finals action. We are in the "sweet" spot with our club 

WCE are still 2nd in the PSD, even if they give away 2 in the ND.

If he goes into the PSD, it will be North who may be happy just to have him a year to trade or WCE.

He won't get to Freo.

But we will get nothing.

 

1 minute ago, Redleg said:

But we will get nothing.

Nothing, wow.

What a risk to take interstates, or those with emotional ties to other clubs.

What use is us doing any development,  only for them to leave as free agency. 

Are you sure the AFL don't offer any compo as free agents in the draft?

29 minutes ago, KLV said:

Heard from someone that would know, but still don’t shoot the messenger 

So presumably he will stay at MFC

4 minutes ago, kev martin said:

Nothing, wow.

What a risk to take interstates, or those with emotional ties to other clubs.

What use is us doing any development,  only for them to leave as free agency. 

Are you sure the AFL don't offer any compo as free agents in the draft?

He is not a free agent, he is an uncontracted player. If he goes in the PSD we get nothing, but it appears he won't do that, thankfully.

5 minutes ago, willmoy said:

So presumably he will stay at MFC

I don't think we can presume that either.

One club will blink. I am now suspecting we are being bent over big time.

It's sounding like we will get 13 and maybe 13 next year and if Freo blinks, North's future 3rd, though obviously North's future 2nd would be much better.

2 minutes ago, Redleg said:

He is not a free agent, he is an uncontracted player. If he goes in the PSD we get nothing, but it appears he won't do that, thankfully.

Also for this situation to be arrived at Freo would have known, Jacko wouldn't have known and that's the mob that arrived the negotiation here.

1 hour ago, kev martin said:

Send him to draft, stop making it easy for these young players to leave.

We give them the basics and have them as development that they take, and run home if their "local" team pays enough, otherwise back to draft and end up anywhere.

I think the AFL has to offer more compo so as to facilitate these freedom of movement and employment contracts. 

So an original pick 3, plus the development goes for less. 

Good idea actually!👌👏

55 minutes ago, KLV said:

So, Freo have asked Jackson to go in the psd, “demand” $1.5M per year and let other clubs pass until he gets picked up by Freo. Jackson has sad no.

So, are freo prepared to pay him $1.5m per year, because if such a thing happened and they did not then that would be draft tampering and they should be kicked hard, even to ask something like that is a disgrace if it is true.

46 minutes ago, KLV said:

Heard from someone that would know, but still don’t shoot the messenger 

I'll be honest it sounds like bs. No one, not even fremantle, can afford 1.5mil a year. 

10 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

Good idea actually!👌👏

Redleg tells me we don't get any compo from an non-contracted player.

Though still sends a message of, commitment to us.

 

 

Edited October 6, 20222 yr by kev martin

57 minutes ago, KLV said:

So, Freo have asked Jackson to go in the psd, “demand” $1.5M per year and let other clubs pass until he gets picked up by Freo. Jackson has sad no.

LJ will get to Freo, WC aren’t interested and are only saying they are interested just in case he falls to the pre-season draft. 

Getting a bit overall peed off with all this

Dogga say he won’t let Dees get screwed over - how?

Freo had months to work out how to make an equitable deal and are now playing games like holding Lobb deal over so they don’t include anything they get in a Jackson deal.

WC are just a non starter side issue.

Now media saying we should just accept unders which they don’t do for any other deal. How about instead of that they report “Freo should put up a fair deal for a former pick 3 with great credentials. They’ve had plenty of time to work it out”

5 minutes ago, mmwd6 said:

I'll be honest it sounds like bs. No one, not even fremantle, can afford 1.5mil a year. 

But could that contract be renegotiated if he got to Freo, after say a year?

2 minutes ago, mmwd6 said:

I'll be honest it sounds like bs. No one, not even fremantle, can afford 1.5mil a year. 

It’s just the same thing Carlton did with Martin a few years ago. $1.5m would only be in the first year.