Farewell Luke Jackson

[Queanbeyan Demon 7,024]

1 hour ago, Dwight Schrute said:

I think if he requested a trade there is a decent possibility Port would grant it, but we'd probably have to give up something like a future second to get him. he's a talented player and a similar style ruckman to Max in my opinion 205cm Giant

Tell them they can have the Weed and we'll take Rozee and Hayes.

[layzie 34,528]

Or we can mowzee the Weed and Hay.

Sorry it's late and I'm getting a cold.

[Diamond_Jim 12,773]

Young Ashcroft has nominated for Brisbane under the father/son rule. He was rumoured to go number 1 in the draft.

Does this help Freo to get Brisbane's first round pick which I assume will be around 16-18 by trading a bundle of lesser picks

[layzie 34,528]

7 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Young Ashcroft has nominated for Brisbane under the father/son rule. He was rumoured to go number 1 in the draft.

Does this help Freo to get Brisbane's first round pick which I assume will be around 16-18 by trading a bundle of lesser picks

Cal had him no.1 in this latest phantom draft. Opens Freo's options up a bit for getting a pick in you'd think. 

[Red and Blue realist 2,063]

20 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Young Ashcroft has nominated for Brisbane under the father/son rule. He was rumoured to go number 1 in the draft.

Does this help Freo to get Brisbane's first round pick which I assume will be around 16-18 by trading a bundle of lesser picks

No, it won't help at all. Freo have already traded out their 2nd and 3rd round picks this year, it might have helped them if they had these but unless there's a 3rd party involved then I can't see Brissy's pick going anywhere near them. 

[layzie 34,528]

2 minutes ago, Red and Blue realist said:

No, it won't help at all. Freo have already traded out their 2nd and 3rd round picks this year, it might have helped them if they had these but unless there's a 3rd party involved then I can't see Brissy's pick going anywhere near them. 

What if they get a swag of picks for Lobb?

[Red and Blue realist 2,063]

Just now, layzie said:

What if they get a swag of picks for Lobb?

That'd be a 3rd party that's involved, and really the only way they'd have anything to entice Brisbane with. They could also trade future picks to get back into this years draft or trade other players, but as it stands now they've got nothing to offer Brisbane. We'd be better off sending our 2nd, 3rd and Adelaide's 3rd to Brissy for their 1st. 

[TheWiz 787]

43 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Young Ashcroft has nominated for Brisbane under the father/son rule. He was rumoured to go number 1 in the draft.

Does this help Freo to get Brisbane's first round pick which I assume will be around 16-18 by trading a bundle of lesser picks

Under the F/S rule, if another club nominates Ashcroft at their highest pick, does that mean Freo then have match with their highest pick? (Thinking of Luke McDonald a while back)

He sounds like he is worth high pick regardless, but just highlighting that Freo may still need to use their top pick on him if another club goes for him?

 

[Redleg 42,164]

10 minutes ago, TheWiz said:

Under the F/S rule, if another club nominates Ashcroft at their highest pick, does that mean Freo then have match with their highest pick? (Thinking of Luke McDonald a while back)

He sounds like he is worth high pick regardless, but just highlighting that Freo may still need to use their top pick on him if another club goes for him?

 

You mean Lions.

[whatwhat say what 23,858]

7 minutes ago, Redleg said:

You mean Lions.

bears

[poita 3,944]

Each pick has a points value. If North bid on Ashcroft with their pick 1, Brisbane need to find enough points to match that bid (less the 20% discount for father / son selections). I don't see how Brisbane could get both Ashcroft & Fletcher without trading in a bunch of picks given their current selections.

[Red and Blue realist 2,063]

7 minutes ago, TheWiz said:

Under the F/S rule, if another club nominates Ashcroft at their highest pick, does that mean Freo then have match with their highest pick? (Thinking of Luke McDonald a while back)

He sounds like he is worth high pick regardless, but just highlighting that Freo may still need to use their top pick on him if another club goes for him?

 

Yes, the Lions, will have to match it - but with points. They will get a discount of 20%. All picks are assigned a value, so for instance if North bid pick 1, the Lions will have to come up with 2,400 points. At the moment they have picks 14 (worth 1,161 points), pick 32 (worth 582), and pick  68 (worth 59 points) of their own and also Port Adelaide's 3rd (pick 43 worth 378 points). So all up they only have 2,180 points at the moment. They can go negative next year, but they also have Fletcher coming through who might get a bid i the early 20s. So they'll be desperate to find more draft picks this year.

[Nascent 9,345]

14 minutes ago, Red and Blue realist said:

Yes, the Lions, will have to match it - but with points. They will get a discount of 20%. All picks are assigned a value, so for instance if North bid pick 1, the Lions will have to come up with 2,400 points. At the moment they have picks 14 (worth 1,161 points), pick 32 (worth 582), and pick  68 (worth 59 points) of their own and also Port Adelaide's 3rd (pick 43 worth 378 points). So all up they only have 2,180 points at the moment. They can go negative next year, but they also have Fletcher coming through who might get a bid i the early 20s. So they'll be desperate to find more draft picks this year.

West Coast and Gold Coast will be in the box seat for the Lions 1st pick with the best value of 2nd and 3rd rounders.

Edited August 4, 2022 by Nascent

[Dr. Gonzo 24,468]

25 minutes ago, poita said:

Each pick has a points value. If North bid on Ashcroft with their pick 1, Brisbane need to find enough points to match that bid (less the 20% discount for father / son selections). I don't see how Brisbane could get both Ashcroft & Fletcher without trading in a bunch of picks given their current selections.

They can only take as many picks to the draft as list spots they have available can't they? So if they have 4 lists spots available they can only use 4 draft picks. They changed the rules a few years ago to stop teams trading a number 3 pick for example for 5 picks in the 30s.

[Red and Blue realist 2,063]

18 minutes ago, Nascent said:

West Coast and Gold Coast will be in the box seat for the Lions 1st pick with the best value of 2nd and 3rd rounders.

Gold Coast in particular - they've also got the Pie's and Freo's 2nd rounders and the Pie's 3rd, so a heap of pick's/points to offer up.

 

Just now, Dr. Gonzo said:

They can only take as many picks to the draft as list spots they have available can't they? So if they have 4 lists spots available they can only use 4 draft picks. They changed the rules a few years ago to stop teams trading a number 3 pick for example for 5 picks in the 30s.

I think clubs can apply to the AFL if they have a need for extra points, so they can accumulate extra picks. The AFL just don't want to see teams passing on picks in the first 2 rounds.

[Jumping Jack Clennett 1,825]

Ashcroft is Johnnie Townsend’s great nephew, I think.

[Diamond_Jim 12,773]

43 minutes ago, Red and Blue realist said:

Yes, the Lions, will have to match it - but with points. They will get a discount of 20%. All picks are assigned a value, so for instance if North bid pick 1, the Lions will have to come up with 2,400 points. At the moment they have picks 14 (worth 1,161 points), pick 32 (worth 582), and pick  68 (worth 59 points) of their own and also Port Adelaide's 3rd (pick 43 worth 378 points). So all up they only have 2,180 points at the moment. They can go negative next year, but they also have Fletcher coming through who might get a bid i the early 20s. So they'll be desperate to find more draft picks this year.

Thanks....Didn't appreciate what a relatively low value pick 14 has. As you say they will be desperate for picks.

Seems that Father Son isn't what it used to be. In simple terms you get a pick 1 at round about a pick 5 price.

Then again there is the need for another club to nominate him as Number 1 etc. I see the Dogs took Darcy as a 2 pick last year

[BenF 56]

Needs to go, I'm getting sick of this.

[Kent 2,920]

8 hours ago, BenF said:

Needs to go, I'm getting sick of this.

Errrr what part of "There is nothing going to happen until the end of the season " dont people understand

It is all speculation and no facts 

163 pages of Krap Unfortunately we have to wait!

Jacko needs to concentrate and perform

The play will play but not now so I'm relaxing and enjoying the Dees resurgence

[rpfc 29,029]

8 hours ago, BenF said:

Needs to go, I'm getting sick of this.

[mo64 5,910]

At least the Buddy move will keep Jackson out of the spotlight for some time.

[58er 6,872]

6 hours ago, rpfc said:

Crazy reaction Because we all are posting largely irrelevant stupid and untruthful comments is not Jacko's fault.

Its our right but we are so keen to post our 3c worth it's become a free for all rubbish topic.  We don't  need to read most of the offerings as they are off the mark anyway. 

 

[rpfc 29,029]

4 minutes ago, 58er said:

Crazy reaction Because we all are posting largely irrelevant stupid and untruthful comments is not Jacko's fault.

Its our right but we are so keen to post our 3c worth it's become a free for all rubbish topic.  We don't  need to read most of the offerings as they are off the mark anyway. 

 

[Redleg 42,164]

10 minutes ago, rpfc said:

I think we are all up the Creek without a paddle and the thread is giving me the Schitts.

[Matt Demon 1,597]

I wouldn't be surprised if West Coast are the one's that have made the God father offer and have been the team he's going to the entire time.