8 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

102 pages of absolute Sh$&@

Well done lads

Welcome to Demonland.

 

I bet my bottom dollar that whoever controls the social media passwords at Melbourne is a closet Demonlander who posts photos and then comes on here to read the mass hysteria with a bucket of popcorn. 

Luke is gone. Move on. Its about the return now, and it will be Freo. 

Edited July 14, 20223 yr by Demon3

5 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Welcome to Demonland.

 

I bet my bottom dollar that whoever controls the social media passwords at Melbourne is a closet Demonlander who posts photos and then comes on here to read the mass hysteria with a bucket of popcorn. 

I certainly hope so. We are the core members of the club

The Club should always keep an eye on here

30 minutes ago, Demon3 said:

Luke is gone. Move on. Its about the return now, and it will be Freo. 

1 hour ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Fair request for a player that’s played a bunch of 4 out of 10 games this year.

As opposed to others who laughably think that we’re going to get Andrew Brayshaw in return.

 

I think it's a 80% chance we receive the short end of the stick here. People want a young star in return for a young star bc they're bitter but it wont work like that. 

1 hour ago, Sideshow Bob said:

2 seems to be the theme doesn't it

options :

luke 2 years

luke and gus sign 

or

2 debuts - Bill Laurie and JVR????

Or Fritta burnt 2 team-mates, and nailed one from the boundary (sorry, couldn’t help myself) 

29 minutes ago, Sydee said:

LOL.. im actually not but i can see how you arrive at that conclusion. But he aint staying.

55 minutes ago, Demon3 said:

Luke is gone. Move on. Its about the return now, and it will be Freo. 

Sad, highly doubt we will get anywhere near his worth.

On a totally unrelated and non-vindictive note, can anyone tell me when Sean Darcy is a free agent?

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2 minutes ago, Nascent said:

Sad, highly doubt we will get anywhere near his worth.

I agree, i am sad and i am pretty angry about it. We wont get what we want / deserve. Ultimately a back end first rounder that will be pushed out further by North getting a PP. They might throw a player in or go for future first and swaps.. but ultimately we get shafted every way you look at it. 

10 minutes ago, Demon3 said:

LOL.. im actually not but i can see how you arrive at that conclusion. But he aint staying.

Based on what exactly ? Other than the fact he hasn't signed a contract extension yet 

13 minutes ago, Sydee said:

Based on what exactly ? Other than the fact he hasn't signed a contract extension yet 

Yep, to be honest, that's a pretty big sign. And some other info i got a couple of weeks ago that if you were to frame a percentage of him going, it was 90%..  i know things change, but smoke = fire. 

I hope im wrong.  

1 hour ago, Demon3 said:

I agree, i am sad and i am pretty angry about it. We wont get what we want / deserve. Ultimately a back end first rounder that will be pushed out further by North getting a PP. They might throw a player in or go for future first and swaps.. but ultimately we get shafted every way you look at it. 

Thanks for the info.

By all accounts Freo wouldn't trade Cerra to us last year because we didn't meet their trade requirements so he chose Carlton.

Any reason why we can't do the same with Freo, not from a vindictive view but a pragmatic one and Jackson go to Eagles.

1 minute ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Thanks for the info.

By all accounts Freo wouldn't trade Cerra to us last year because we didn't meet their trade requirements so he chose Carlton.

Any reason why we can't do the same with Freo, not from a vindictive view but a pragmatic one and Jackson go to Eagles.

The difference is Cerra never nominated us. If Jackson nominates Freo it makes it hard for us to deal with West Coast.

17 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

The difference is Cerra never nominated us. If Jackson nominates Freo it makes it hard for us to deal with West Coast.

Iirc Cerra wanted to come back to Victoria and waited until his manager found the club who could do the deal and we couldn't.

1 hour ago, Demon3 said:

I hope im wrong

You are

1 hour ago, Nascent said:

On an unrelated and completing non vindictive note, can anyone tell me when Sean Darcy is a free agent?

Footywire says 2024

19 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

The difference is Cerra never nominated us. If Jackson nominates Freo it makes it hard for us to deal with West Coast.

While true, I'm sure we will say tell Luke that he has our blessing to go to Freo as long as a reasonable deal can be made but if not we would love to keep him on our list and revisit in 1 - 2 years time.

Also, does anyone know if trade deals can be structured to include picks and free up cap space? E.g. if Jackson goes to Freo and they don't have the pick/player trade currency can we ask for a player and that Freo pay their salary as part of the deal?

Everyone chill. We turned Jesse Hogan into Steven May and nobody saw it coming until the last few days. When Jesse was deciding what to do Demonland was an hysterical mess.

We don’t yet know what players are out there, but we will get something good if LJ goes. We’d be at the top of the list for 80% of the competition.

1 hour ago, Demon3 said:

I agree, i am sad and i am pretty angry about it. We wont get what we want / deserve. Ultimately a back end first rounder that will be pushed out further by North getting a PP. They might throw a player in or go for future first and swaps.. but ultimately we get shafted every way you look at it. 

Would stake everything I own on Melbourne not accepting anything anywhere near that deal. This is way off the mark.

Cerra going for pick 6 is a closer precedent to anchor any negotiation to but even then Melbourne would be arguing the value of a higher # draft pick who also happens to be a KPP would mean any offer needs to be north of that that.

likely scenario is he will not ‘nominate’ Freo until his manager is comfortable the two clubs can do a deal. The assumption that he’ll ‘nominate Freo’ and Melbourne just need to suck it up is far more unlikely than likely (even if he wants to go there). 

1 hour ago, Sydee said:

Based on what exactly ? Other than the fact he hasn't signed a contract extension yet 

Seems a reasonable assumption according to previous resigning schedules across interstate clubs vis a vis time lines. 

But as the saying goes there's still a chance that Scully will stay

15 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Footywire says 2024

Sounds like a good target to take over the number 1 ruck role come 2025. Vic kid as well.

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24 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

You are

I hope your'e right too.  But I still see Jackson has being average in general this

year with some brilliant cameos. Granted the Jackson/Gawn fuutre could be awesome though.

I hated losing Hogan, but I don't see jackson as that developed as yet.

We did it to Freo, re: Ed langdon,  and he still gets booed over there as a result so that move hurt them.

Swings and roundabouts.

Clarry and partners in crime which are the dynasty backbone are locked away ( as Gus will be I'm sure) so I see jackson as just a 'doing business' type of issue.

In Taylor I trust.

43 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Iirc Cerra wanted to come back to Victoria and waited until his manager found the club who could do the deal and we couldn't.

I think that was all a ruse. I'm sure his intentions were to go to Carlton all along. Remember the stunt that Judd and his manager pulled? Aside from Mitch Clark, it's very rare that a trade comes down to a bidding war. 

3 hours ago, Demon3 said:

Luke is gone. Move on. Its about the return now, and it will be Freo. 

But, but, but. What about the Enterprise Bargaining Agreement? We keep getting told by some on here that the EBA is what's holding up his re-signing.

I'm being facetious. I'm with you. I think he's goneski.