Farewell Luke Jackson

[wheaters31 676]

7 minutes ago, goodwindees said:

My very strong mail, and it won’t come as any surprise, is that Jackson will be playing in WA next year.  The Club even offered to move his family to Melbourne recently and it was rejected.

Thank you for passing on your mail as always 

Was holding out hope, but that's that.....Hoperfully we get plenty in return.

[Nascent 9,241]

That's disappointing but not surprising. Have to focus on getting the best return now. Pick 16 - 18 would be a massive failure.

[goodwindees 2,510]

The Club is clearly aware of his desire to go home, and realise it’s extremely likely, however, at this point it is far too early to concede and start talking trade details. The Club will not give up in their quest to retain him, however, they realise they’re up against it. 

[DeeSpencer 25,767]

The league badly needs tampering rules. 
 

Contracts should be sorted in the off-season. 

I don’t begrudge Jacko going home. I do dislike that he’s having to deal with all of this in season.

 

[Dr. Gonzo 24,235]

If we keep Gus it will ease the pain a bit - I just don't want to get screwed on a trade though, hopefully Freo realise they're going to have to make the trade work not just expect they can get him to nominate, offer a late teens pick or two and say "take it or leave it"

[BDA 22,770]

If he left last year we could have got cerra in return

freo need to stump up. No way we’re bending over for them. 

[DeeSpencer 25,767]

2 first rounders, Josh Treacy and Lloyd Meek for a pair of 3rds back.

Sign Dan McStay with the bonus cap space.

Trade the future Freo pick for Brisbane’s first.

Package the 2 firsts to move up and back, ideally end up with something like picks <10 and 25.

Get a midfielder and rebuild the forward line with some combination of Gawn/Meek, McStay, Treacy, JVR in the post Brown and T Mc world (which is imminent)

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

6 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

2 first rounders, Josh Treacy and Lloyd Meek for a pair of 3rds back.

Sign Dan McStay with the bonus cap space.

Trade the future Freo pick for Brisbane’s first.

Package the 2 firsts to move up and back, ideally end up with something like picks <10 and 25.

Get a midfielder and rebuild the forward line with some combination of Gawn/Meek, McStay, Treacy, JVR in the post Brown and T Mc world (which is imminent)

McStay is going to the Pies for overs. He will upset our salary cap.

I think the play has to be for Taylor Walker whilst JVR is blooded. Walker will come on the cheap and will be dead dog hungry for some silverware. 
 

 

[layzie 33,871]

7 hours ago, Sydney_Demon said:

I have no news but I just thought it was important to add to the 2,261 previous posts that fall into this category... 😄

Never a post wasted on this thread, good job!

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

19 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

The league badly needs tampering rules. 
 

Contracts should be sorted in the off-season. 

I don’t begrudge Jacko going home. I do dislike that he’s having to deal with all of this in season.

 

The league needs a rule that draftees need to sign a minimum 5 years. It’s pathetic that we get this kid and he’s gone after 3 years. 
 

Not sure how he gets to Freo though. I’d play hardball and deal exclusively with WCE for their Pick 2/3 and a top 10 player

[The heart beats true 18,128]

If he leaves I’ll never forgive him for leaving us when he could have been part of long term success. He could have been drafted to the Suns and really struggled having to be the number 1 guy. He’s benefited greatly from the experience of those around him, and the opportunity that gave him to have success. We’ve undoubtedly increased his value more than he’s increased ours in terms of his next contract. Would a new 3 year contract have killed him? He’d be 25 and still able to go home on a big 5-7 year contract.

He will be reminded by me at every Melbourne game that I support the Demons, and if you turn your back on the family you have to deal with the consequences. 

[layzie 33,871]

Well it now becomes about getting the best deal for him. 

Edited July 7, 2022 by layzie

[Lord Nev 13,512]

1 minute ago, The heart beats true said:

He will be reminded by me at every Melbourne game that I support the Demons, and if you turn your back on the family you have to deal with the consequences. 

I'm sure he'll cry himself to sleep on that one night a year...

[Kick_It_To_Pickett 3,293]

3 minutes ago, CYB said:

The league needs a rule that draftees need to sign a minimum 5 years. It’s pathetic that we get this kid and he’s gone after 3 years. 
 

Not sure how he gets to Freo though. I’d play hardball and deal exclusively with WCE for their Pick 2/3 and a top 10 player

We need to start realising that Perth kids always want to go home. I knew this would happen when we signed him. The very reason we chose Watts over NicNat. He sold this story about having an Uncle in Melbourne and how he’d been here for Basketball etc. no doubt the COVID years have had an impact, but the lure of home is strong for West Aussies. It’s buyer beware stuff

[layzie 33,871]

BTW I love the kid but if bucket loads of money are to be thrown at him for performances like tonight then it's a risk.

[1964_2 2,357]

1 minute ago, The heart beats true said:

If he leaves I’ll never forgive him for leaving us when he could have been part of long term success. He could have been drafted to the Suns and really struggled having to be the number 1 guy. He’s benefited greatly from the experience of those around him, and the opportunity that gave him to have success. We’ve undoubtedly increased his value more than he’s increased ours in terms of his next contract. Would a new 3 year contract have killed him? He’d be 25 and still able to go home on a big 5-7 year contract.

He will be reminded by me at every Melbourne game that I support the Demons, and if you turn your back on the family you have to deal with the consequences. 

Agree with this. If he departs end of this year, no invite to the premiership reunion, and will be remembered as having character only marginally above Scully’s

Stay 2 more years, then he be free to do what he wants, with everyone’s blessing. 
 

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

1 minute ago, layzie said:

BTW I love the kid but if bucket loads of money are to be thrown at him for performances like tonight then it's a risk.

If what is being said is true. I don’t think it’s going to be what’s being reported. Freo will be silly giving him anything more than 4 years. 
 

 

[whatwhat say what 22,783]

note with interest that you say 'back in wa' not with freo @goodwindees - i presume that means meth coke are very much still in the mix, which suits us more

we won't get mcstay @DeeSpencer so forget that - he's 100% off to the filth, and i personally wouldn't want him anyway; better options out there for $3m of cap space over the next 5 years

if it's freo i'd want meek and logue as part of the deals, plus two first rounders

it's meth coke i want that first round pick in 2022 and would want 2023, but know that we weren't going to get it

[DeeSpencer 25,767]

14 minutes ago, CYB said:

McStay is going to the Pies for overs. He will upset our salary cap.

I think the play has to be for Taylor Walker whilst JVR is blooded. Walker will come on the cheap and will be dead dog hungry for some silverware. 
 

 

The McStay money is surely not more than what we budgeted for Jackson. Once Jacko makes his call we can get in the race for him. 

Walker can’t pinch hit in the ruck, can’t chase and tackle, doesn’t crash packs. Doesn’t suit our system. 

McStay is the kind of forward we need that goes with a 2nd ruck and Fritsch, plus one of the older guys until a young option develops.

[BDA 22,770]

If he wants to leave on good terms and do the right thing by us he should go the Eagles. they have the currency to facilitate a trade which will properly compensate us. Freo don't

If he selects Freo and insists we deal with them , I'll not be impressed

[DeeSpencer 25,767]

1 minute ago, whatwhat say what said:

we won't get mcstay @DeeSpencer so forget that - he's 100% off to the filth, and i personally wouldn't want him anyway; better options out there for $3m of cap space over the next 5 years

Name them? That’s market rate for a very solid CHF in the mold of Tommy Mc but with healthy feet. 
 

I have no desire for Logue unless we think Petty is our future up forward and there’s no indication of that. 

[whatwhat say what 22,783]

8 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Name them? That’s market rate for a very solid CHF in the mold of Tommy Mc but with healthy feet. 
 

I have no desire for Logue unless we think Petty is our future up forward and there’s no indication of that. 

logue has been very good forward for freo since they moved him there - i reckon he's got more upside than you

mcstay doesn't impact contests like tommy mac

oh, and in terms of naming them, free agents this year and players who'll go for the same for a new contract at another club who i would take over mcstay - amon from the pear, taranto from gw$

not to mention investing that money in keeping sparrow, jordon, pickett, rivers, bowey over the same time period and spending the $3m across multiple players already on our list

Edited July 7, 2022 by whatwhat say what

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[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

10 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

The McStay money is surely not more than what we budgeted for Jackson. Once Jacko makes his call we can get in the race for him. 

Walker can’t pinch hit in the ruck, can’t chase and tackle, doesn’t crash packs. Doesn’t suit our system. 

McStay is the kind of forward we need that goes with a 2nd ruck and Fritsch, plus one of the older guys until a young option develops.

McStay is overrated and will just add to the list of forward woes. Walker can play the roaming CHF role very effectively.

[dazzledavey36 55,057]

I wonder if Lloyd Meek will come into calculations?

203cm 106kg ruckman who apparently has shown promises as a ruckman at senior level. Wins big disposal numbers at WAFL level it seems.

I only ask as I have legitimately only watched him once and that was round 1 last year at the G where I thought he held up well against Gawn for a first gamer.

Anyone know much more about him?