On 22/09/2021 at 03:09, Pollyanna said:

I realise that is your point but it was the situation last week when you were 95% certain.

I was more certain Cerra would pick Melbourne more just wanting success but it sounds like he just wants to get back to Victoria regardless. When he said in an interview  the other day that he wants Freo well compensated then I became less confident.

Cerra to Carlton for pick 6 gets the deal done with no drama's at all.

Edited September 22, 20213 yr by dazzledavey36

  On 22/09/2021 at 03:20, dazzledavey36 said:

I was more certain Cerra would pick Melbourne more just wanting success but it sounds like he just wants to get back to Victoria regardless. When he said in an interview  the other day that he wants Freo well compensated then I became less confident.

Cerra to Carlton for pick 6 gets the deal done with no drama's at all.

That's just a throw away line. When has a player said I want to screw them I want to screw them hard. I thought Carlton would have learned from over compensating Essendon with pick 7 for Saad. Maybe Cerra is worth it maybe he's not.

  On 22/09/2021 at 03:20, dazzledavey36 said:

I was more certain Cerra would pick Melbourne more just wanting success but it sounds like he just wants to get back to Victoria regardless. When he said in an interview  the other day that he wants Freo well compensated then I became less confident.

Cerra to Carlton for pick 6 gets the deal done with no drama's at all.

Many a player has said this before, they want their current club well compensated, but when push comes to shove, self interest always wins out.

I don't know if he'll come to Melbourne or not, but he could nominate Carlton right now if he wanted Freo to be well compensated.

 

  On 22/09/2021 at 03:27, Dante said:

Many a player has said this before, they want their current club well compensated, but when push comes to shove, self interest always wins out.

I don't know if he'll come to Melbourne or not, but he could nominate Carlton right now if he wanted Freo to be well compensated.

 

Only thing that's giving me hope the fact he hasn't nominated yet.

He's not going to Carlton - of that I am 99.99% certain

 

If he was he/his manager would come out with it - there is absolutely no reason at all to not. Same goes with every other Vic team not playing this weekend. You can assume with certainty that he will come out after the Granny with a preference for one of the 2 teams playing. WB don't seem to be in the picture.

 

 

Until the Blues appoint a coach, he'd be wise to hold off committing, especially if a Grand Finalist with the "Coach of the Year" is a possible alternative.

A problem for next week.

  On 22/09/2021 at 03:55, Sideshow Bob said:

He's not going to Carlton - of that I am 99.99% certain

 

If he was he/his manager would come out with it - there is absolutely no reason at all to not. Same goes with every other Vic team not playing this weekend. You can assume with certainty that he will come out after the Granny with a preference for one of the 2 teams playing. WB don't seem to be in the picture.

 

 

Good point you make there. WB over-stocked in the midfield as it is.

At the end of day, in the fullness of time, Que sera sera.

  On 22/09/2021 at 01:21, Dwight Schrute said:

Jordan Dawson doesn't agree

Dawson went there because he is Adelaide born and no doubt got offered a better contract at the crows

  On 22/09/2021 at 08:24, Demons11 said:

Dawson went there because he is Adelaide born and no doubt got offered a better contract at the crows

and i've got no doubt in a 50/50  battle, being a mad Crows supporter played a significant part in the decision. 

I want to pose this question ?

Seeing that we have fought long and hard to change the attitude of the playing group from being individuals to playing for the group  (and supporters etc)

Do we want a player who is trying to get the most benefit for himself, surely a backward step.. Go Dees

 

I'd be really interested to know what the proposed role is for Cerra? you'd suspect it'd be on the wing using his class, and then Brayshaw moves back into the midfield rotation. but not 100% sure. 

i think what it ultimately means is that 21-22 player gets an upgrade, Tom Sparrow to Angus Brayshaw for example 

SOS suggesting that Giants would move on Coniglio, for points and salary cap relief.

So, could we give them some late picks, to clear Coniglio to Freo and we get Cerra.  Then we do another trade to get a bit more, like say Weid for a pick that goes to Freo. Result is the  Dockers get Coniglio and a pick for Cerra and Giants get salary cap relief and a new Captain, plus NGA points they need.

If we did that, would you look at Jarrod Brander, as a cheap pick up and versatile cover player. He was originally a forward and is 195 cms and can play at both ends. Eagles happy to move him on, again probably for salary cap relief.

You would then get Cerra and Brander, for mid range picks and Weid.

Edited September 22, 20213 yr by Redleg

  On 22/09/2021 at 01:48, dazzledavey36 said:

Freo want a top 10 pick.

No doubt. If we give them two first round picks however, they can play with those to try and move further up the order.

  On 22/09/2021 at 01:42, WERRIDEE said:

Sparrow and pick 33 to Richmond? Too much

Pick 15 all that stuffing around for not a great pick. Richmond are getting ripped off 15 for McAsey McAsey has no value you would get him for nothing.

I can't see why can't package a future first round pick with Weideman and Sparrow or Jordon. I rate Jordon and Sparrow as top 15 draft picks they are both playing good footy while Weideman would be worth a pick between 20 and 25.

Just watched the first half of the Freo game and not overly impressed with Cerra's form to date. Had a shot at goal from 30 meters out and hit the side of the boot and didn't make the distance. He doesn't seem to like the hard stuff and all our midfielders are hard at it and that's what I love about the club I don't want to see softness in the midfield it costs you in big games. Am I wrong? I don't see many Freo games. I'm sure there are a lot more people who have seen play more than I have. I know he's a well credentialed player but is he what we need?

McAsey was a very highly rated junior and was a top 10 draft pick only two years ago. He would have at least as much trade value, if not more than Weideman without doubt.

  On 22/09/2021 at 09:59, MadAsHell said:

No doubt. If we give them two first round picks however, they can play with those to try and move further up the order.

No way am I giving up two 1st round draft picks for Cerra.

Cerra is worth one first round. Probably pick 8-12range.  Right now , I can’t see MFC being able to offer Freo what they will be asking 

I've said before Cerra's value is largely weighted by the fact he went pick 5 a few years ago (and media hype, see Saad: pick 8 as an example).

I can see us trading into the later parts of this years 1st round, and also trading our future 1st to him. 

I don't think at this point he's 'worth that', but if we win the flag it'll be seen almost like a free hit in a sense.

And if we lose the grandfinal, it'll be viewed as the missing piece rightly or wrongly - only place Dogs have us is in midfield depth (rucks excluded). Both pretty strong motivating factors whichever way the game goes.

Edited September 22, 20213 yr by adonski

  On 22/09/2021 at 10:03, MadAsHell said:

McAsey was a very highly rated junior and was a top 10 draft pick only two years ago. He would have at least as much trade value, if not more than Weideman without doubt.

You are dreaming. Who is stoping McAsey from getting a game in a poor side. No one he has no value he's a failed draft pick. I can guarantee you no one would want him. Weideman on the other hand is playing in the number 1 side in the comp ATM and can't get a game ahead of Ben Brown although he didn't help himself form wise he still has value if Ben  Brown wasn't recruited to us Weideman would be getting a game no doubt about it. McAsey is just no good some high draft picks don't prosper. 

@WERRIDEE, you have the same profile pic as @Yokozuna and when I saw the profile pic in the latest post of this thread I got excited haha.

  On 22/09/2021 at 08:45, Dwight Schrute said:

I'd be really interested to know what the proposed role is for Cerra? you'd suspect it'd be on the wing using his class, and then Brayshaw moves back into the midfield rotation. but not 100% sure. 

i think what it ultimately means is that 21-22 player gets an upgrade, Tom Sparrow to Angus Brayshaw for example 

Tom Sparrow is a future top 50 mid in the competition, but I get your point.

I like Sparrow as a player, but jeepers, some are really putting their neck out there. @Chook a top 50 player? I hope you're right.

  On 22/09/2021 at 14:12, A F said:

I like Sparrow as a player, but jeepers, some are really putting their neck out there. @Chook a top 50 player? I hope you're right.

I said a top 50 mid. Meaning in the top 50 midfielders. Not the top 50 players. Still rate him though.

  On 22/09/2021 at 14:18, Chook said:

I said a top 50 mid. Meaning in the top 50 midfielders. Not the top 50 players. Still rate him though.

Haha, that is an important distinction. Read things properly, AF.

  On 22/09/2021 at 14:18, Chook said:

I said a top 50 mid. Meaning in the top 50 midfielders. Not the top 50 players. Still rate him though.

Can’t we have both ?😌