Tasmanian AFL Team

[Orion 332]

On 5/6/2023 at 9:07 AM, Whispering_Jack said:

TASMANIANS DRAFTED INTO THE AFL - THE LAST 10 YEARS

2013 Total: 8
National: Kade Kolodjashnij (Pick No.5, Gold Coast) Toby Nankervis (No.35, Sydney) Alex Pearce (No.37) Jake Kolodjashnij (No.41) Ben Brown (No.47, North Melbourne via Werribee) Brady Grey (No.58, Fremantle) 
Rookie: Eli Templeton (No.3, St Kilda) Zac Webster (No.48, Hawthorn)

2014 Total: 3
National: Lachie Weller (No.13, Fremantle via Southport), Josh Watts (No.65, Brisbane Lions) Josh McGuinness (No.81, Brisbane Lions) 

2015 Total: 4
National: Kieran Lovell (No.22, Hawthorn) Mitch Hibberd (No.33, North Melbourne) Mackenzie Willis (No.52, Gold Coast), Ryan Gardner (No.59, Geelong)

2016 Total: 1
Rookie: Robbie Fox (No.32, Sydney Swans via Coburg)

2017 Total: 2
National: Hugh Dixon (No.44, Fremantle)
Rookie: Brody Mihocek (No.22, Collingwood via Port Melbourne) 

2018 Total: 3
National: Tarryn Thomas (No.8, North Melbourne) Chayce Jones (No.9, Adelaide) Fraser Turner (No.58, Richmond) 

2019 Total: 2
Rookie: Mitch O’Neill (No.20, West Coast) Matt McGuinness (NGA, North Melbourne) 2020

2020 Total: 3
Rookie: Isaac Chugg (No.22, Collingwood) Patrick Walker (No.2, North Melbourne) Rhyan Mansell (PSS, Richmond via Woodville West Torrens)

2021 Total: 2
National: Sam Banks (No.29, Richmond) 
Mid-Season Rookie: Jackson Callow (No.17, Hawthorn via Norwood) 

2022 Total: 5
National: Lachlan Cowan (No.30, Carlton) Tom McCallum (No.36, Port Adelaide) 
Rookie: Cameron Owen (No.15, Sydney) Seth Campbell (No.10, Richmond) 
Mid-Season Rookie: Jye Menzie (No.15, Essendon via South Adelaide)

Wow that's a lot less than I thought 

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,396]

On 5/3/2023 at 6:52 PM, Ouch! said:

Huh what points? 

Media rights? That wasn't even a point, barely a sentence.... and eyeballs?  560k Tassie people, thats at least 2 million eyeballs we have (and Tasmanians can make that joke!)  

Go home factor?  seriously thats been something happening for years, it's not new, but more importantly it isn't valid in that he states Qld and WA players want to go home, hmm, so do Vic players and SA players. But apparently this is somehow more valid because of Tassie and his dislike of the state.  

The issue is more the tone of 'Imagine 20 year olds sent to Tassie wanting to stay past 2 years' Tasmania is no longer a convict settlement... that view is rude and pathetic and as I called out wrong.

Today is a hugely significant day for the AFL, for Tasmania, the people, the former players and it's just tiring listening to someone constantly troll and slag off Tasmania or the team that is coming. 

If you think that a Tasmanian team won’t  face player retention issues stemming from lack of team success and players not wanting to live there then I don’t think you’re being honest with yourself. I’m happy that Tasmania is getting a team but not as a 19th team, the competition can’t sustain 19 or 20 teams at the moment. The AFL thinks the revenue from the broadcast deals is the answer to everything. We currently have the last two expansion clubs struggling on and off the field as well as North, Hawthorn and the Eagles struggling on field. The Suns should fold allowing Tassie to become the 18th team, GWS stay for now only because they’re playing some home games In Canberra. Depending on what plays out in the future the AFL could also fold GWS and look to put an extra team in either in S.A or W.A.

You’re not the only person to live / have lived in Tassie, I get that you’re passionate but that doesn’t automatically make you right.

[Stiff Arm 4,419]

6 hours ago, Demonland said:

So we'll have the Demons and the Devils???

I guess we already have the Cats, the Tigers and the Lions. And there's the Swans, the Eagles, the Crows and the Hawks.

Devils vs Saints will be a spirited contest!

[Demonland 72,217]

 

[rpfc 28,480]

The new stadium as a pre-requisite is an arrogant stand from the AFL but I don’t think it is wrong to want a standard in each state for a team to have in a stadium. 

Now the ‘nay sayers’ are leaning into the lack of spend of housing and health and as someone who works out of Canberra - I have heard this refrain before - we can walk and chew gum at the same time.

The arts and sport can have money spent on it, the endangered species of native frogs can have money spent on it, and we will have enough money to spend on health and housing - no matter your politics.

They are putting a third of the money…

I have run out of patience on this - kill the stadium and you can forget about the team. Like it or lump it - that is the game.

Edited May 17, 2023 by rpfc

[Redleg 40,944]

48 minutes ago, rpfc said:

The new stadium as a pre-requisite is an arrogant stand from the AFL but I don’t think it is wrong to want a standard in each state for a team to have in a stadium. 

Now the ‘nay sayers’ are leaning into the lack of spend of housing and health and as someone who works out of Canberra - I have heard this refrain before - we can walk and chew gum at the same time.

The arts and sport can have money spent on it, the endangered species of native frogs can have money spent on it, and we will have enough money to spend on health and housing - no matter your politics.

They are putting a third of the money…

I have run out of patience on this - kill the stadium and you can forget about the team. Like it or lump it - that is the game.

The new team needs a stadium that can support fans and is a centrepiece of TV coverage with a big supporting footy crowd.

Watching the empty Giants stadium at their home games is soul destroying and I am sure the broadcasters hate it. 

There is no doubt that a Tasmanian team would bring tourism and money into their economy, which in time would repay any contribution to a stadium and provide many extra benefits for the State.

However, if a vocal minority ruin this, that is the end of a Tasmanian team now and for the foreseeable future and so be it.

[bush demon 2,041]

12 minutes ago, Redleg said:

The new team needs a stadium that can support fans and is a centrepiece of TV coverage with a big supporting footy crowd.

Watching the empty Giants stadium at their home games is soul destroying and I am sure the broadcasters hate it. 

There is no doubt that a Tasmanian team would bring tourism and money into their economy, which in time would repay any contribution to a stadium and provide many extra benefits for the State.

However, if a vocal minority ruin this, that is the end of a Tasmanian team now and for the foreseeable future and so be it.

 The AussieFL  creates dud 18s in the rugby states then handcuffs young victorians et al to go and live/play in those same states via the draft. I for one would like to see some international standard table tennis facilities installed right across the country courtesy of us tight****- taxpayers.  After all, if we can subsidise aerial pingpong then there is no reason why we can't challenge the Ma Longs, Fan Zen Dongs and Alex Le Bruns of the world down here on the ground.

[58er 6,456]

On 5/6/2023 at 9:56 AM, daisycutter said:

no ferry needed, luci

new stadium is located similarly to cbd as the mcg is - ie 5 min walk

You mean 12/15 mins really DC. 

[58er 6,456]

7 hours ago, bush demon said:

 The AussieFL  creates dud 18s in the rugby states then handcuffs young victorians et al to go and live/play in those same states via the draft. I for one would like to see some international standard table tennis facilities installed right across the country courtesy of us tight****- taxpayers.  After all, if we can subsidise aerial pingpong then there is no reason why we can't challenge the Ma Longs, Fan Zen Dongs and Alex Le Bruns of the world down here on the ground.

What's Tabletennis got to  do with AFL? 

[bush demon 2,041]

1 hour ago, 58er said:

What's Tabletennis got to  do with AFL? 

Ahem..."Aerial pingpong". What's empty stadiums go to do with Saturday afternoons?

https://www.google.com/search?q=aerial+ping+pong+meaning&oq=&aqs=chrome.2.35i39i362l8j46i39i362j35i39i362j46i39i199i362i465j35i39i362j46i39i175i199i362j35i39i362l2.-1j1j7&client=ms-android-samsung-ss&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Edited May 17, 2023 by bush demon
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[daisycutter 29,616]

2 hours ago, 58er said:

You mean 12/15 mins really DC. 

yeah, 5 min gets you nowhere really, unless you're herb elliot 😁

[Demonland 72,217]

 

[Diamond_Jim 12,592]

For those who thought inviting Tasmania to join the AFL was an intricate political game it's nothing by comparison to what the NRL will have to deal with if PNG asks to add a team. China influence anyone.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/nrl/why-png-s-nrl-bid-is-about-to-become-a-hot-topic-in-canberra-again-20240131-p5f1fy.html

Marape will become the first PNG Prime Minister to address Australian parliament next Thursday.

He is expected to raise the issue of funding for the bid from the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade, which will be crucial if the NRL is to be persuaded to invest in the rugby league-mad nation. A $600 million investment over 10 years has been widely reported but is yet to be confirmed by the Labor government.

While PNG’s enthusiasm for the game and potential as a talent nursery is obvious so, too, is the logistical challenge of having a team playing in Port Moresby. There are also longer-term queries around recruitment and player development.

Violent riots that engulfed Port Moresby in early January, in which 22 people were killed, resulted in Marape declaring a state of emergency and intense criticism of his position.

[DeeZone 9,856]

On 29/04/2023 at 13:31, Ouch! said:

Actually I think Hobart (or greater Hobart) is basically identical, But the team in Geelong has had a little more of a headstart with people following them than the tassie team ;) 
More importantly, it's about perception with TV broadcasts too.... if the stadium is constantly 80% full, the ambience, the sound, the visual appeal is so much greater than a big stadium with huge gaps.  We all saw that in COVID and it was horrible. 

We are still seeing it at GWS / Gold Coast stadiums whereas Tassie is a AFL footy state and should be able to get 15 - 20k on a regular basis, a lot of opposition supporters would also travel to Hobart so great for tourism, we love Hobart.!!

[whatwhat say what 22,775]

2 hours ago, DeeZone said:

We are still seeing it at GWS / Gold Coast stadiums whereas Tassie is a AFL footy state and should be able to get 15 - 20k on a regular basis, a lot of opposition supporters would also travel to Hobart so great for tourism, we love Hobart.!!

crowds make a negligible difference to the bottom line tho

a 19th team brings no value into the competition

they will need to add a 20th quicksmart

[58er 6,456]

7 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

crowds make a negligible difference to the bottom line tho

a 19th team brings no value into the competition

they will need to add a 20th quicksmart

Is that why The AFL have to pour millions into the GC/GWS coffers?  Crowds do matter when you talking about 10,000 each week at home and away venues involving these 2 Clubs.

Their bottom lines would be reasonable and AFL not have to prop them up after a decade. 

[TheWiz 779]

Whilst we were on the bottom we had to endure two expansion clubs and free agency. If clubs don’t get their picks and performance in line between now and 2028 they’re in for a rough ride… or if they’re in VIC the risk of being moved.

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,396]

5 hours ago, TheWiz said:

Whilst we were on the bottom we had to endure two expansion clubs and free agency. If clubs don’t get their picks and performance in line between now and 2028 they’re in for a rough ride… or if they’re in VIC the risk of being moved.

Ideally they fold a Victorian club up. Will never happen but 18 clubs is enough.

[Kent 2,910]

On 09/05/2023 at 12:02, Orion said:

Wow that's a lot less than I thought 

Average 3 per year not sustainable will end up like GC just another expensive franchise team with few or no tassie players

Another joke side in my view anyhow the state has to find the 200mill for stadium

Good luck selling that to tas taxpayers

[daisycutter 29,616]

I think the tasmanians have got a far better case than richmond to be called the tigers

so richmond should rebrand.  i'm suggesting the "ferals" with appropriate imagery

you know it makes sense

[Demonstone 22,569]

Anybody want to bet against the Tassie team

a)  wearing a predominantly dark green jumper and

b)  being nicknamed "The Devils"?

[Diamond_Jim 12,592]

1 hour ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Ideally they fold a Victorian club up. Will never happen but 18 clubs is enough.

Agree Mr Mumbai however everyone knows that the AFL is only a "good news" organisation.

Out of interest had North taken the money and gone to the Gold Coast where would the team be located to even the numbers or would we be without Freo?

[Bitter but optimistic 22,241]

7 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

Anybody want to bet against the Tassie team

a)  wearing a predominantly dark green jumper and

b)  being nicknamed "The Devils"?

I hope it also includes a 'map of Tasmania' - one of my favourite images.

[leave it to deever 17,511]

5 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

I hope it also includes a 'map of Tasmania' - one of my favourite images.

That reminds me of a song by Painters and Dockers 

[Bitter but optimistic 22,241]

3 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

That reminds me of a song by Painters and Dockers 

Yes indeed !