COACHES VOTES: Rd 21 2021

[Jaded No More 68,975]

3 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Actually, I think Tom Mitchell and Tom Libretore are just as good at that part of the game. But Oliver has them covered for other apects.

Sure, if you love a throw 😂

Mitchell and Libba are slow. Clarry has a brilliant burst of speed and his ability to pick up the ball one handed while charging forward is unmatched. He won us the game last night by doing just that in the final centre bounce and then had the vision to hit the ball lace out to Spargo. 
He is a talent like no other. I will fight to the death anyone who thinks he isn’t the best inside mid in the competition! He was winning AA blazers at 20 in a game over flowing with midfielders who can see ball and get ball. He is special. 

[Adam The God 30,564]

12 minutes ago, Scoop Junior said:

Agree completely on Oliver being severely underrated - both by opposition fans and commentators. Trac is a sensational player and gets deserved recognition as such but Oliver doesn't get the plaudits he deserves.

I think this year commentators have finally caught on to him, but some of them suggest that this has been some kind of breakout season or that he has gone to new levels. The bloke has been performing at an exceptionally high level for years. I can't remember exactly who it was but a Melbourne player was asked about Oliver's incredible year earlier this season and he just laughed and said something like "Clarrie has been doing it for years".

Not only is he brilliant at his craft but he has an incredible will to win. How often does he have a huge last quarter in a close game to try to drag us over the line, winning some critical contests along the way. He did it last night with that centre clearance with about 1:20 left and the Eagles throwing everything at us.

28 possessions last night while copping an extremely tight tag for 4 quarters from a seasoned tagger.

He is a truly phenomenal footballer.

Completely agree. He did win an AA jacket in his third season after all. He's a freak and it's a joy to watch him in a Melbourne jumper. We're witnessing a once in a generation talent IMO. Trac is great and explosive, and a match winner, but at purely winning clearances and contested ball, we may not see a better player for a long time.

Edited August 10, 2021 by A F

[Adam The God 30,564]

4 minutes ago, Billy said:

Fair enough l agree that he’s underrated compared to Bont & Trac, but obviously not by the coaches votes

l think Oliver is a brilliant footballer, probably in the top 3 Demons players in my 40 years

#1 in my 34 years. 

[whatwhat say what 23,185]

1 minute ago, A F said:

#1 in my 34 years. 

#1 in my 42

[Jaded No More 68,975]

1 minute ago, A F said:

#1 in my 34 years. 

Mine too. I was not around for Flower or Jimmy as I only moved to Australia in 1998. 
Clarry is the best player I’ve seen in a Melbourne jumper purely because he has rarely had a bad game since the day he debuted. 

[spirit of norm smith 16,598]

6 hours ago, monoccular said:

Clearly Simpson is very demanding - thought that Nichols would have got one or two, but I guess he failed to deliver when it really counted. 

Love it!!! Nichols clearly one of the Eagles best 

[adonski 12,782]

1 hour ago, Scoop Junior said:

Agree completely on Oliver being severely underrated - both by opposition fans and commentators. Trac is a sensational player and gets deserved recognition as such but Oliver doesn't get the plaudits he deserves.

I think this year commentators have finally caught on to him, but some of them suggest that this has been some kind of breakout season or that he has gone to new levels. The bloke has been performing at an exceptionally high level for years. I can't remember exactly who it was but a Melbourne player was asked about Oliver's incredible year earlier this season and he just laughed and said something like "Clarrie has been doing it for years".

Not only is he brilliant at his craft but he has an incredible will to win. How often does he have a huge last quarter in a close game to try to drag us over the line, winning some critical contests along the way. He did it last night with that centre clearance with about 1:20 left and the Eagles throwing everything at us.

28 possessions last night while copping an extremely tight tag for 4 quarters from a seasoned tagger.

He is a truly phenomenal footballer.

Ed Langon quoted as saying Oliver is the best mid he's played with - Fyfe included.

It was on WA radio, can't find the link tho...!

[Cheesy D. Pun 1,765]

On 8/10/2021 at 6:03 PM, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

That's weird. Your post quotes a Jaded comment but attributes it to me. Puts me in illustrious company but I can't take credit for what I didn't actually say.

Sorry mate, don't know how I managed that!

[picket fence 17,896]

On 8/10/2021 at 2:22 PM, Swooper1987 said:

Bizarre.  Only Goodwin voted for Jackson, and how Simpson voted for Naitanui's 5 minute burst is beyond belief.  Simpson's judgement with his voting is reflective of his current coaching performance.

Even worse, Trac 10 and Oliver 3? On what planet?

[ProperDee 1,698]

I must be a terrible judge.I thought Tim Kelly was in the best 4 players on the ground.

[At the break of Gawn 4,460]

Like every year, the AFLCA is keeping secret the last two rounds of votes for the AFL coaches award this year. Since how Oliver is in the lead by 3 votes, any idea on what the round 22 votes will look like against Adelaide? I have a feeling the Bont wouldn’t have polled well against the Hawks.

[Demonland 73,341]

5 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Like every year, the AFLCA is keeping secret the last two rounds of votes for the AFL coaches award this year. Since how Oliver is in the lead by 3 votes, any idea on what the round 22 votes will look like against Adelaide? I have a feeling the Bont wouldn’t have polled well against the Hawks.

Miller is the one to watch. The Suns got pumped by 11 goals but he got 30 possessions and always seems to poll in their losing games. He could pip Oliver at the post even if the Swans pump the Suns this week.

[Red and Blue realist 2,058]

2 hours ago, Demonland said:

Miller is the one to watch. The Suns got pumped by 11 goals but he got 30 possessions and always seems to poll in their losing games. He could pip Oliver at the post even if the Swans pump the Suns this week.

Don't forget Wines, he'll poll as well against the Blues, and not convinced Oliver will have against the Crows (maybe he'll get 1 or 2 from either/both of the coaches but not much more). Bont might end up with a couple of votes as well. Think if one of Oliver or Bont scores the 10 this week they'll take it out. 

[Swooper1987 3,322]

2 hours ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Like every year, the AFLCA is keeping secret the last two rounds of votes for the AFL coaches award this year. Since how Oliver is in the lead by 3 votes, any idea on what the round 22 votes will look like against Adelaide? I have a feeling the Bont wouldn’t have polled well against the Hawks.

Oliver unlikely.  Seedsman will poll well in the Adelaide v Melbourne game.  I expect Gawn, Petracca, Lever and Fritsch will be most likely, perhaps Jackson.  Agree on Miller. He's a big danger (and a terrific footballer).

[Bates Mate 4,511]

I'd suggest bevo and goody might be a bit more generous with their assessment of Bont and clarry in the last 2 rounds

[deanox 10,042]

It wasn't Oliver's best game but he was consistent.

28 disposals (14 contested), 5 clearances, 8 score involvements, 7 tackles.

I'd have Fritsch and Salem clearly higher than him in ranking Melbourne players, but after that it is a bit of a raffle. The 2 goals Petracca kicked may get him the nod. Others like Langdon and Rivers are in the mix too, but you could see the justification for Oliver is he gets 1 or 2 votes from the coaches.

Had he kicked the two goals he missed, he would have been up there no doubt. It's the one little knock on him, and if he sorts that, look out.

Edited August 17, 2021 by deanox

[demon3165 2,822]

Clarry has the cleanest hand picking up a football and hand ball but does not hurt enough teams by foot when he learns to lower the eyes and take that half second to pass thats when he will really go up another notch he also has to learn how to deal with a hard tag but thats a coaching and mental thing.

[hells bells 2,023]

Surely Clarry picks up 10 in the final game.  Anyone know when this award is announced?  

[Lucifers Hero 40,492]

19 minutes ago, hells bells said:

Surely Clarry picks up 10 in the final game.  Anyone know when this award is announced?  

RS, Coaches Award and AA team announced on Thursday night, August 26.

HOF tomorrow night.

I would say the AA squad should drop any time now.

[jnrmac 20,226]

On 8/17/2021 at 11:01 AM, At the break of Gawn said:

Like every year, the AFLCA is keeping secret the last two rounds of votes for the AFL coaches award this year. Since how Oliver is in the lead by 3 votes, any idea on what the round 22 votes will look like against Adelaide? I have a feeling the Bont wouldn’t have polled well against the Hawks.

Bont wont poll in rd 23

Wines was probably just pipped by Boak in rd 23

Oliver should get the 10 but might only get 9 if Scott wants to be a prat and only gvive him 4

[deanox 10,042]

1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

Bont wont poll in rd 23

Wines was probably just pipped by Boak in rd 23

Oliver should get the 10 but might only get 9 if Scott wants to be a prat and only gvive him 4

If he doesn't give it to Oliver, surely Max is the only other option for top 2 votes on Sat?

[jnrmac 20,226]

3 minutes ago, deanox said:

If he doesn't give it to Oliver, surely Max is the only other option for top 2 votes on Sat?

The AGE 3,2,1  gave 2 votes to Guthrie if you can believe that!

[picket fence 17,896]

6 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

The AGE 3,2,1  gave 2 votes to Guthrie if you can believe that!

Goooofthrey? absurd

Edited August 23, 2021 by picket fence