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POSTGAME: Rd 17 vs Port Adelaide

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Oliver, Petracca, Jordon, Viney and Harmes. If they click, look out. I have a funny feeling it's not far off.

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      On 08/07/2021 at 13:14, adonski said:

    Brown gonna be bloody good once he builds into things for a few weeks. His touches were all class. Got out marked a few times but we kicked it over his head a bit, too...

    You don't know that.  To me it looked exactly the same as the last couple of games he played for us.  Couldn't time his runs to the drop zone, couldn't get separation due to pace, flailed around a bit with one arm up and failed to bring it to ground as much as he should.  No goals.

    Not the worst but really no better than Weideman's average game return, but people will see what they want to see.

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    So much to talk about... 

    I knew we were on when a Gawn tap went to Oliver who had a clearance, it was clean and lethal. 

    Gawn was huge today, his taps were some of the best I have seen this year, and he had a huge amount of work put into him by Hinkley to little effect. And one moment he takes the center bounce and the next he is in the goal square laying a shepherd, figgin awesome, his mobility was huge. Alir, what was Hinkley doing? He gifted us the first half (well our players did a little bit too). Alir had an immediate effect in 2nd half at the start of the 3rd when he went back. Hinkley lost a bit today in my eyes, he had the cattle but not enough of a plan. I disagree with Gerard on first crack Alir needs a spot, he is not a utility, moving him all game reduced his effectiveness. 

    Viney had a great pressure game, and it is clear some posters here just don't value pressure and their idea of analysis is stats without understanding impact. Pressure in the midfield helps defence. Watch the Port interchange bench just before half time, they looked dead, that was a result of pressure.

    ANB (who I think has a great heart, and I can't stand the way he gets sniped on here) only had one effective kick (to Tmac for a goal), but this was his worst game this year and his last three have been average. I wouldn't mind if he had a spell to improve his disposal. I am also curious to see a bit more experimentation with the list as well. Harmes brings less to the table, he is the other option to give a spell, Viney brings more. (This is me arguing for Jake Bowey (-;) 

    For mine we were kissed on the Richard by the umps early on, was actually pretty reasonable, a few bad calls but nothing near the normal level. 

    Brown lets others off the leash, and since he kicked 10 last time he played Port, am sure the scars were still there. Playing him was always going to allow us to play our game and make Port a bit reactive. Overall Port looked off the pace, I used to be scared of them, not any more.

    Biggest take away, and the best thing though, was last week against GWS, the players were potting each other, their bad team mojo, and not as much work off the ball, very scary to see and it worried me more than the Pies/Crows losses. The way they came back today was huge tick to the coaching staff and the players owning everything. Yet another box ticked that we are the real deal.

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      On 08/07/2021 at 12:50, dees189227 said:

    Now a late night ahead. Hopefully Ash gets up at Wimbledon to make it an even better night. 

    Big Tour de France night as well: bunch sprint into Nîmes, will Cavendish equal Eddy Merckx's record of 34 TDF wins?

    (Cavendish, now there's a story. Bigger comeback than Tom McDonald.)

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      On 08/07/2021 at 13:25, Buzzy said:

    You don't know that.  To me it looked exactly the same as the last couple of games he played for us.  Couldn't time his runs to the drop zone, couldn't get separation due to pace, flailed around a bit with one arm up and failed to bring it to ground as much as he should.  No goals.

    Not the worst but really no better than Weideman's average game return, but people will see what they want to see.

    Nah, Weid's poor games you literally can't see the bloke for quarters at a time. Brown will always present. 

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      On 08/07/2021 at 13:17, Buzzy said:

    100% agree re JJ's tackling, they're bang on, and I've noticed his handballing is decisive and accurate.  Good long kick on him too.

    Jordon is so clean and unhurried. Does the difficult things incredibly well.

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      On 08/07/2021 at 13:02, layzie said:

    All the journos in Adelaide look so plain. 

    My brother runs the AV at Adelaide Oval and constantly updates me on Michelangelo Rucci's postgame media conference attire, which he describes as 'homeless' but not homeless chic, with actual genuine food stains.  

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      On 08/07/2021 at 13:20, Skuit said:

     

    One issue: surely the original intent of the holding-the-man and push-in-the back rules are to prevent interference off the ball when the opponent is still in the contest, rather than to penalise players who tackle someone who drops the ball in the tackle or otherwise drops their knees and gets ridden into the ground? 

    This drives me spare, May etc, we get burnt by this twice a game with our great tackling and the ball popping out.

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      On 08/07/2021 at 13:13, Stein9193 said:

    If I saw them in the street Id have thought they were just regular guys with regular jobs

    You know it's not exactly A-list when Michelangelo Rucci is at the top of the tree..

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    Harmes always has been a little fumbley but my read is that he is going to need to become a bit cleaner and more one touch in the next 7 weeks to play anything other than a tagging role. 

    I don't mind us having 2 negating roles per game in Viney and Harmes, but Harmes just looks a much better player when he's tagging to me, seems to get a bit lost when he's not. 

     

     

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      On 08/07/2021 at 13:18, Deemania since 56 said:

    Steven Smith wore No.35, did he not? Memory is cloudy ... He was a great backman, too. 

    Ryan Ferguson

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      On 08/07/2021 at 13:27, dee-tox said:

    Jordon is so clean and unhurried. Does the difficult things incredibly well.

    Agree.

    But even more importantly, he does the simple things well.

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      On 08/07/2021 at 13:27, Skuit said:

    My brother runs the AV at Adelaide Oval and constantly updates me on Michelangelo Rucci's postgame media conference attire, which he describes as 'homeless' but not homeless chic, with actual genuine food stains.  

    Haha that is hilarious!

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    In perfect woo-who conditions, the mystery of woo-hoo man gives way to the mystery of woo-hoo man's absence.?

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      On 08/07/2021 at 13:25, Buzzy said:

    You don't know that.  To me it looked exactly the same as the last couple of games he played for us.  Couldn't time his runs to the drop zone, couldn't get separation due to pace, flailed around a bit with one arm up and failed to bring it to ground as much as he should.  No goals.

    Not the worst but really no better than Weideman's average game return, but people will see what they want to see.

    What a load of [censored] far better than Weideman's return.

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    Doesnt BBB just love to play in front.  He is a ripper imo. Like a golfer on a course he knows well, the midfield will learn exactly where you can afford to 'miss' .  Take 5-10 percent off the kick. He will be tough to stop and will continually bring the ball to front and centre.

      Ps convinced james jordan is the second coming of a young joel selwood. Head over the ball, gets the high contact frees,  courageous, skillful.  What a debut season so far. 

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      On 08/07/2021 at 13:14, adonski said:

    Brown gonna be bloody good once he builds into things for a few weeks. His touches were all class. Got out marked a few times but we kicked it over his head a bit, too...

    His kicking inside 50 was elite

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      On 08/07/2021 at 13:32, Jjrogan said:

    Doesnt BBB just love to play in front.  He is a ripper imo. Like a golfer on a course he knows well, the midfield will learn exactly where you can afford to 'miss' .  Take 5-10 percent off the kick. He will be tough to stop and will continually bring the ball to front and centre.

      Ps convinced james jordan is the second coming of a young joel selwood. Head over the ball, gets the high contact frees,  courageous, skillful.  What a debut season so far. 

    Loved Ben's post game interview. Just a great big bloody grin on his face.

    We just looked so much better with him in the team.

    Great match winning game by TMAC too. He kicks 'em when others miss.

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      On 08/07/2021 at 13:23, ding said:

    I was going to bring this play up myself. The way he split that pack and hit Langers on the chest in such little time was for me, one of the highlights of the match. He cant kick 50m to save himself but his vision is outstanding.

    He does that regularly as well, probably not last week but most weeks he does the stop, prop in traffic and lasers a pass inside 50.

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    Also, wtf was Hinkley doing with Aliir? Firstly, he starts his best interceptor on Ben Brown. That's a win for Melbourne as they lose his intercepting. Then he moves Aliir forward...? Mind blowingly poor coaching.

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