NON MFC: Rd 17 2021

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7 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

There's no reason to assume Naughton will miss any more than one week. Dunkley's 1-2 weeks away, so will be back by finals. Treloar's going to struggle but is in contention to be back by finals. Stefan Martin's likely to be back by finals.

I forgot Easton Wood's also out, so there's a sixth best 22 player who didn't play yesterday.

They went into yesterday missing their FF, FB, first ruck, intercept defender and two top 50 midfielders. Sydney played well so it's no wonder the Dogs lost. But it's premature to write them off altogether on the back of that one game.

Yeah, I saw their injury list and soon-to-be-returning players - scary.

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Was tonight's game in Perth always scheduled for Monday night or was there a reason?

Don't mind a Monday night game but in the same weekend that we have had a Thursday night game it makes for a long round.

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53 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

There's no reason to assume Naughton will miss any more than one week. Dunkley's 1-2 weeks away, so will be back by finals. Treloar's going to struggle but is in contention to be back by finals. Stefan Martin's likely to be back by finals.

I forgot Easton Wood's also out, so there's a sixth best 22 player who didn't play yesterday.

They went into yesterday missing their FF, FB, first ruck, intercept defender and two top 50 midfielders. Sydney played well so it's no wonder the Dogs lost. But it's premature to write them off altogether on the back of that one game.

I'm not writing them off based on one game. They've been suspect all year when teams have actually brought pressure. Their defence is suspect. Cordy was being outmarked by mid sized players yesterday. 

I didn't mean Naughton would be out any longer than one week, I meant it to be more illustrative of their lack of forwardline depth. Especially compared with us who have shown we can win with all different types of forward structures and personnel.

They've got a great midfield but weaknesses at either end.

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footscray's midfield - when all fit - is probably the deepest of all teams running

it's clearly their strength as their defence is undersized and their forward line is built around the best young tall forward in the game and a vasty underrated role player; they don't provide the same 'frontal pressure' that our small forwards, partially because they essentially 'clear space' for naughton and bruce

 

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Just now, whatwhat say what said:

footscray's midfield - when all fit - is probably the deepest of all teams running

it's clearly their strength as their defence is undersized and their forward line is built around the best young tall forward in the game and a vasty underrated role player; they don't provide the same 'frontal pressure' that our small forwards, partially because they essentially 'clear space' for naughton and bruce

 

I agree. Their midfield is wonderful but they are not fans of pressure. When teams win contested footy against them, they respond poorly. So far they have proven to be fragile in big games. 

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3 hours ago, Spargonicus said:

Yeah, I saw their injury list and soon-to-be-returning players - scary.

Which FB? 

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4 hours ago, A F said:

I'm not writing them off based on one game. They've been suspect all year when teams have actually brought pressure. Their defence is suspect. Cordy was being outmarked by mid sized players yesterday. 

I didn't mean Naughton would be out any longer than one week, I meant it to be more illustrative of their lack of forwardline depth. Especially compared with us who have shown we can win with all different types of forward structures and personnel.

They've got a great midfield but weaknesses at either end.

The way Naughton plays is very courageous but he’s as likely to concuss himself again on return the way he plays. 

Edited July 12, 2021 by John Crow Batty

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3 minutes ago, John Crow Batty said:

The way Naughton plays is very courageous but he’s as like to concuss himself again on return the way he plays. 

His goal kicking is pretty inconsistent too. Goes at 45%.

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4 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

There's no reason to assume Naughton will miss any more than one week. Dunkley's 1-2 weeks away, so will be back by finals. Treloar's going to struggle but is in contention to be back by finals. Stefan Martin's likely to be back by finals.

I forgot Easton Wood's also out, so there's a sixth best 22 player who didn't play yesterday.

They went into yesterday missing their FF, FB, first ruck, intercept defender and two top 50 midfielders. Sydney played well so it's no wonder the Dogs lost. But it's premature to write them off altogether on the back of that one game.

Martin and Wood are absolutely cooked mate 

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1 hour ago, adonski said:

Martin and Wood are absolutely cooked mate 

A dogs firend of mine says easton wood should have been de-listed in 2018

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5 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

footscray's midfield - when all fit - is probably the deepest of all teams running

it's clearly their strength as their defence is undersized and their forward line is built around the best young tall forward in the game and a vasty underrated role player; they don't provide the same 'frontal pressure' that our small forwards, partially because they essentially 'clear space' for naughton and bruce

 

Naughton wouldn't be my pick for best young forward in the game, I'd have at least 3 others ahead of him (McKay and the King brothers for starters), but each to their own.

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ACL confirmed for Eric Hipwood.  Sad news for him and Brisbane.

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Absolutely pizzling down in Perth now, Eagles are pretty skilful side which is an asset in the wet, but they are one of the the worst sides for groundball gets I’ve ever seen.

Cunnington could be very important tonight along with Goldy 

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54 minutes ago, A F said:

Naughton wouldn't be my pick for best young forward in the game, I'd have at least 3 others ahead of him (McKay and the King brothers for starters), but each to their own.

I think the King brothers will be great, but they run very hot and cold currently (or more specifically they run cold 2/3rds of the time, and then look great for a game). 

McKay could be anything in a good side, but he plays for Carlton so it’s hard to evaluate.

If we could take any key forward in the league I’d take Naughton. He hits packs in a way that just isn’t something you can teach in a young player (hard as we’ve tried the last 10 years). 

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With Hipwood out and a relatively weak backline, Brisbane may be a little shaky in finals. Daniher will struggle as the primary forward target I reckon.

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25 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

I think the King brothers will be great, but they run very hot and cold currently (or more specifically they run cold 2/3rds of the time, and then look great for a game). 

McKay could be anything in a good side, but he plays for Carlton so it’s hard to evaluate.

If we could take any key forward in the league I’d take Naughton. He hits packs in a way that just isn’t something you can teach in a young player (hard as we’ve tried the last 10 years). 

I agree.

Watching Naughton is like watching a young Wayne Carey all over again.

Still only 21 years of age, built like a brick ****house and crashes packs like not other.

Hes one of the best young key forwards in the if not already one of the best going around. It's mental he's doing this so young still.

 

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Josh Kennedy or Jim Carey? 

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On 7/10/2021 at 10:05 PM, WalkingCivilWar said:

St Kilda’s song needs more lyrics 

Only 13 repetitious words - unimaginative, uninspiring and boring.

On 7/10/2021 at 10:49 PM, Jaded said:

Injuries injuries injuries. A blessed run is up there with the most important factor in winning it. We’ve been blessed by the gods so far. But it can all come crashing down quickly as Brisbane learnt tonight. We are a May/Lever injury away from complete nuclear meltdown. 

We did lose May early in a vital match against a top key opponent, and won that game and the ones he missed.

On 7/10/2021 at 11:47 PM, Paulo said:

Umps

The umps cost us dearly in the final minutes of the Adelaide game, but seriously we should have been able to wrap it up way earlier.

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Just turned on the WCE v NM game - 3.10 vs 3.2 at half time!

Wont watch any more of to but sounds a completely uninspiring game.

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1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I agree.

Watching Naughton is like watching a young Wayne Carey all over again.

Still only 21 years of age, built like a brick ****house and crashes packs like not other.

Hes one of the best young key forwards in the if not already one of the best going around. It's mental he's doing this so young still.

his mobility and attack on the contest is awesome and he has such sticky hands; all he needs to do to really take over the competition is nail his shots

footscray's forward line is going to be interesting with naughton leading the charge plus jamara ugle-hagen and luke darcy's son as likely key forward types from next year onwards, as they develop to replace josh bruce

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West Coast losing to Norf is the biggest lol of the season. Not done with yet but they’re making a good go of it. 
I hate Norf but gees it’s nice to see those booing border-shutters lose. 

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2 minutes ago, Jaded said:

West Coast losing to Norf is the biggest lol of the season. Not done with yet but they’re making a good go of it. 
I hate Norf but gees it’s nice to see those booing border-shutters lose. 

LOL

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48 minutes ago, monoccular said:

Just turned on the WCE v NM game - 3.10 vs 3.2 at half time!

Wont watch any more of to but sounds a completely uninspiring game.

Entertaining for the spite. Might be some reports. WC losing the plot. North taking control.

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Perth trip not looking real scary this year....

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Stephenson's playing an awesome match for Norf.

What's wrong with Kelly for WC? Doesn't look interested.