Jump to content

What they're saying in Grand Parade aka Giants Stadium

Diamond_Jim
in Melbourne Demons

Featured Replies

Posted

Well not much really

I did like this from their Changes thread...

It's an even week, anything is possible.

There's a push to play Hogan

This is the Game Preview:

In the last three weeks, GWS has been unable to beat either the last or second last placed teams. This week we play the ladder leaders, Melbourne, at their home ground. One guess how this is going to end up. Last time we played Melbourne, in Manuka, we were well in the fight until we lost around 800 games of experience in a quarter as Phil Davis, Stephen Coniglio and Matt de Boer all got injured, and we just ran out of puff with the reduced bench.

I don't know why we capitulate to poor teams - is it the gameplan, are the players just not motivated, or what? Over the last few weeks we've trickled a few experienced players back into the team; expect more this week as Hogan, Coniglio and Taylor come off the injury list - but do they need a run in the seconds to regain match fitness? I reckon we've missed Sam Taylor the most - with him playing, our defence was holding pretty well; we've crashed without him in three of our last four games. Hogan was well provides a focus and hardness that our attack otherwise lacks.

For mine, we've done our dash to make finals this year, and should focus on developing the kids for the future. I doubt Leon thinks that way - unfortunately, I think his approach is part of our fundamental problem.

What I'd like to see is some of our long term underperformers sit out - Harry Himmelberg (less so Jeremy Finalyson, but I can understand why some would have him on the chopping block), Matt de Boer (unless he's given a hard tagging role on Clayton Oliver), and it's probably time to spell Bobby Hill, who shows flashes but not substance for long enough. While I don't think he's been the biggest problem, I'd sit out Kennedy to allow Lachie Ash into the team - he's our future and needs to play. Personally, I'd keep the inexperienced ruck combo and pump games into them, but I'd expect to see Briggs go out for the experienced Mumford to battle Gawn. I'd normally opt to drop Reid, but we probably have no-one else who can play that lockdown defender role that he does (not that well - a missing piece of our list).

Tom Green & Lachie Ash should be straight in. If Sam's OK to play (syndesmosis injury may leave him a little underdone) I'd probably bring him in and keep Buckley, with Idun having a rest - that reprises our optimal tall setup (when we've played well from defence!) of Davis/Taylor/Buckley/Haynes, giving Haynes more latitude to take intercepts. Bringing Jesse Hogan in, provided we're sure of his fitness, would help in the front half.

My ins: Green, Ash, Hogan, Taylor.
My outs: de Boer, Kennedy, Himmelberg, Idun. (I've opted to keep Bobby in for his speed, which we're going to need. Idun doesn't necessarily deserve to be dropped, although he probably needs to do more in the counterattack, but mainly for balance in defence at this point

 

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/rd-16-changes-vs-the-demons-mcg.1274432/

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/round-16-2021-melbourne-v-gws-giants-1-45-pm-mcg-sat-3-july.1274783/

  • Quote
    • Like 3
     

    I'm tipping there won't be many replies to the Giants thread.

    Maybe substitute a picture of tumbleweeds at Giant Stadium....tumbleweed.png

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    • Haha 5
    22 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    ell not much really

    Well its a lot when you consider they only have seven supporters?

  • Quote
    • Like 4
    • Haha 1
     
    22 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    Personally, I'd keep the inexperienced ruck combo and pump games into them, but I'd expect to see Briggs go out for the experienced Mumford to battle Gawn

    I'd like to see that too.  Mumford is a dog.  Doesn't give a rats about playing footy, just out to plod around the park, collect his pay check and hurt blokes.

    If he's a chance of playing I'd actually rather that we rest Gawn and let Majak loose on him.  Could be more beneficial for us, for where our season is at.  Get Majak a taste of the game at AFL level again and preserve Max for the pointy end.

  • Quote
    • Like 2
    1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

    I'm tipping there won't be many replies to the Giants thread.

    Maybe substitute a picture of tumbleweeds at Giant Stadium....tumbleweed.png

    Kudos for this post.

    The original post was 22 hours ago. Normally the other team's insigths correspond to a meltdown of hilarity and comment on here.

    No such luck and says just how different it must be to follow a new team as opposed to the traditonal ones with rusted on emotion. Sad really for them.

    Suns commentary must be worse.

     

  • Quote
    • Like 1

    • Author

    In their defence there are now about six posts in the game preview thread.

    That's a 300% increase !!

    We lost first time around because Flynn couldn’t play a full game against Gawn and he destroyed us. Either mummy plays with Flynn or both young tucks miss out.
    play mummy this week and then give him the week off against the Sun’s who don’t have an experienced ruck.
    if Taylor and Hogan get up and play 1’s I think we are a red hot chance in this game
     
     
  • Quote
    12 minutes ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

    I'd like to see that too.  Mumford is a dog.  Doesn't give a rats about playing footy, just out to plod around the park, collect his pay check and hurt blokes.

    If he's a chance of playing I'd actually rather that we rest Gawn and let Majak loose on him.  Could be more beneficial for us, for where our season is at.  Get Majak a taste of the game at AFL level again and preserve Max for the pointy end.

    Max usually polls Brownlow votes against Mummy.  He can't keep up with Maxy.  I think Max always enjoys the challenge of dodging Mummy's elbows and knees.

  • Quote
    • Like 2

    Not sure Mumford or Flynn are good enough to run with either of our boys, or good enough to go forward and be a huge threat. think we're going to have a big advantage in that regard. 

    the midfield battle looks pretty even, stars on both sides. 

    how we manage Toby Greene this time will be the key i think, he's the real danger man. if we can keep him under control we're in a much better position to win

  • Quote
    • Like 4
     
    1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    In their defence there are now about six posts in the game preview thread.

    That's a 300% increase !!

    We lost first time around because Flynn couldn’t play a full game against Gawn and he destroyed us. Either mummy plays with Flynn or both young tucks miss out.
    play mummy this week and then give him the week off against the Sun’s who don’t have an experienced ruck.
    if Taylor and Hogan get up and play 1’s I think we are a red hot chance in this game
     
     

    Few other reasons we won that game.

    They had three in-game injuries (Coniglio, Davis and de Boer), but otherwise we won because of our strong defence (they generated 13 scoring shots from 49 inside 50s, but kept the margin respectable by kicking 11.2) and our pressure (+18 in disposals but also +9 in tackles and a whopping 4-17 tackles inside 50).

  • Quote
    • Like 2
    2 hours ago, leave it to deever said:

    Well its a lot when you consider they only have seven supporters?

    Quite optimistic there deev

  • Quote

    It Mumford plays I say we send in Spargo as the ruck at the first centre bounce.

    Why?

    Because #### Mumford, that's why.

  • Quote
    • Haha 2
    On 6/30/2021 at 6:33 PM, Diamond_Jim said:

    Well not much really

    I did like this from their Changes thread...

    It's an even week, anything is possible.

    There's a push to play Hogan

    This is the Game Preview:

    In the last three weeks, GWS has been unable to beat either the last or second last placed teams. This week we play the ladder leaders, Melbourne, at their home ground. One guess how this is going to end up. Last time we played Melbourne, in Manuka, we were well in the fight until we lost around 800 games of experience in a quarter as Phil Davis, Stephen Coniglio and Matt de Boer all got injured, and we just ran out of puff with the reduced bench.

    I don't know why we capitulate to poor teams - is it the gameplan, are the players just not motivated, or what? Over the last few weeks we've trickled a few experienced players back into the team; expect more this week as Hogan, Coniglio and Taylor come off the injury list - but do they need a run in the seconds to regain match fitness? I reckon we've missed Sam Taylor the most - with him playing, our defence was holding pretty well; we've crashed without him in three of our last four games. Hogan was well provides a focus and hardness that our attack otherwise lacks.

    For mine, we've done our dash to make finals this year, and should focus on developing the kids for the future. I doubt Leon thinks that way - unfortunately, I think his approach is part of our fundamental problem.

    What I'd like to see is some of our long term underperformers sit out - Harry Himmelberg (less so Jeremy Finalyson, but I can understand why some would have him on the chopping block), Matt de Boer (unless he's given a hard tagging role on Clayton Oliver), and it's probably time to spell Bobby Hill, who shows flashes but not substance for long enough. While I don't think he's been the biggest problem, I'd sit out Kennedy to allow Lachie Ash into the team - he's our future and needs to play. Personally, I'd keep the inexperienced ruck combo and pump games into them, but I'd expect to see Briggs go out for the experienced Mumford to battle Gawn. I'd normally opt to drop Reid, but we probably have no-one else who can play that lockdown defender role that he does (not that well - a missing piece of our list).

    Tom Green & Lachie Ash should be straight in. If Sam's OK to play (syndesmosis injury may leave him a little underdone) I'd probably bring him in and keep Buckley, with Idun having a rest - that reprises our optimal tall setup (when we've played well from defence!) of Davis/Taylor/Buckley/Haynes, giving Haynes more latitude to take intercepts. Bringing Jesse Hogan in, provided we're sure of his fitness, would help in the front half.

    My ins: Green, Ash, Hogan, Taylor.
    My outs: de Boer, Kennedy, Himmelberg, Idun. (I've opted to keep Bobby in for his speed, which we're going to need. Idun doesn't necessarily deserve to be dropped, although he probably needs to do more in the counterattack, but mainly for balance in defence at this point

     

    https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/rd-16-changes-vs-the-demons-mcg.1274432/

    https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/round-16-2021-melbourne-v-gws-giants-1-45-pm-mcg-sat-3-july.1274783/

    That's a quality preview. 

  • Quote
    14 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

    It Mumford plays I say we send in Spargo as the ruck at the first centre bounce.

    Why?

    Because #### Mumford, that's why.

    Shaming their ruckman is not good form and possibly, is a wasted effort as his supporters cannot read. Let Spargo do it as his direct opponent in the ruck, instead. 

  • Quote

    I put the lack of comment on the GWS supporters' forum down to three things:

    • the people of western Sydney don't know they have an AFL team
    • the people of western Sydney don't realise the world is bigger than just western Sydney
    • the people of western Sydney don't now how to use computers  
  • Quote
    • Like 1
    • Haha 1
    17 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

    Few other reasons we won that game.

    They had three in-game injuries (Coniglio, Davis and de Boer), but otherwise we won because of our strong defence (they generated 13 scoring shots from 49 inside 50s, but kept the margin respectable by kicking 11.2) and our pressure (+18 in disposals but also +9 in tackles and a whopping 4-17 tackles inside 50).

    And they were unbelievably accurate 11.2 to 15.12.  13 shots to 27.  Insane accuracy from them. Greene was incredible.  Hopefully Hibberd is a better match up for him.

    Edited by Swooper1987

  • Quote
    • Like 1

    35 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

    I put the lack of comment on the GWS supporters' forum down to three things:

    • the people of western Sydney don't know they have an AFL team
    • the people of western Sydney don't realise the world is bigger than just western Sydney
    • the people of western Sydney don't now how to use computers  

    LMFAO and it’s not even 1 o’clock in the afternoon. ?

    Looking forward to tonight’s ‘commentary’ from DL

    Edited by WalkingCivilWar

  • Quote
    21 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

    Unlike the AFL paying people to sit in their cheer squad

    This is true?

  • Quote
    • Author
    1 hour ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

    This is true?

    In a game some years ago they paid a few guys to dress up as orange bananas and that was the GWS cheer squad.

    It was quite amusing until the game turned and GWS ended up thrashing us.

    It was one of those many games that MFC went into as red hot favourite.

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    23 hours ago, Dwight Schrute said:

    Not sure Mumford or Flynn are good enough to run with either of our boys, or good enough to go forward and be a huge threat. think we're going to have a big advantage in that regard. 

    the midfield battle looks pretty even, stars on both sides. 

    how we manage Toby Greene this time will be the key i think, he's the real danger man. if we can keep him under control we're in a much better position to win

    PUT HARMES ON GREENE AND FEED HIM NASTIER THAN NORMAL PILLS! Harmsy will lurve it!

  • Quote

    5 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

    This is true?

    Yep and also offering free party poppers when GWS Score a Goal , actually even a piont!!

  • Quote
    3 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    In a game some years ago they paid a few guys to dress up as orange bananas and that was the GWS cheer squad.

    It was quite amusing until the game turned and GWS ended up thrashing us.

    It was one of those many games that MFC went into as red hot favourite.

    Any chance that was their first win at the G?

  • Quote
    8 minutes ago, deanox said:

    Any chance that was their first win at the G?

    I reckon it was. I was there that day and saw that group. Had to laugh. Until we lost.

  • Quote
    •  

    We are going to thrash the pants off the Dee players and win by a trillion goals . When we are finished with you all it will be a case of say me name . GWS will belt out of the blocks first 5 minutes 5 goals, end of the matches GWS will 8 th. God be with you Dees.

  • Quote
    • Author
    2 hours ago, deanox said:

    Any chance that was their first win at the G?

    yes unfortunately.

    I think we also gave Freo their first win

  • Quote

    • Join the conversation

    You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

    Guest
    Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
    Reply to this topic...
    Go to topic listing

    Featured Content

    • NON-MFC: Round 13

      Follow all the action from every Round 13 clash excluding the Dees as the 2025 AFL Premiership Season rolls on. With Melbourne playing in the final match of the round on King's Birthday, all eyes turn to the rest of the competition. Who are you tipping to win? And more importantly, which results best serve the Demons’ finals aspirations? Join the discussion and keep track of the matches that could shape the ladder and impact our run to September.

        • Thanks
      • 25 replies
      Demonland

    • PREVIEW: Collingwood

      Having convincingly defeated last year’s premier and decisively outplayed the runner-up with 8.2 in the final quarter, nothing epitomized the Melbourne Football Club’s performance more than its 1.12 final half, particularly the eight consecutive behinds in the last term, against a struggling St Kilda team in the midst of a dismal losing streak. Just when stability and consistency were anticipated within the Demon ranks, they delivered a quintessential performance marked by instability and ill-conceived decisions, with the most striking aspect being their inaccuracy in kicking for goal, which suggested a lack of preparation (instead of sleeping in their hotel in Alice, were they having a night on the turps) rather than a well-rested team. Let’s face it - this kicking disease that makes them look like raw amateurs is becoming a millstone around the team’s neck.

        • Thanks
      • 1 reply
      Demonland

    • CASEY: Sydney

      The Casey Demons were always expected to emerge victorious in their matchup against the lowly-ranked Sydney Swans at picturesque Tramway Oval, situated in the shadows of the SCG in Moore Park. They dominated the proceedings in the opening two and a half quarters of the game but had little to show for it. This was primarily due to their own sloppy errors in a low-standard game that produced a number of crowded mauls reminiscent of the rugby game popular in old Sydney Town. However, when the Swans tired, as teams often do when they turn games into ugly defensive contests, Casey lifted the standard of its own play and … it was off to the races. Not to nearby Randwick but to a different race with an objective of piling on goal after goal on the way to a mammoth victory. At the 25-minute mark of the third quarter, the Demons held a slender 14-point lead over the Swans, who are ahead on the ladder of only the previous week's opposition, the ailing Bullants. Forty minutes later, they had more than fully compensated for the sloppiness of their earlier play with a decisive 94-point victory, that culminated in a rousing finish which yielded thirteen unanswered goals. Kicks hit their targets, the ball found itself going through the middle and every player made a contribution.

        • Thanks
        • Like
      • 1 reply
      Demonland

    • REPORT: St. Kilda

      Hands up if you thought, like me, at half-time in yesterday’s game at TIO Traeger Park, Alice Springs that Melbourne’s disposal around the ground and, in particular, its kicking inaccuracy in front of the goals couldn’t get any worse. Well, it did. And what’s even more damning for the Melbourne Football Club is that the game against St Kilda and its resurgence from the bottomless pit of its miserable start to the season wasn’t just lost through poor conversion for goal but rather in the 15 minutes when the entire team went into a slumber and was mugged by the out-of-form Saints. Their six goals two behinds (one goal less than the Demons managed for the whole game) weaved a path of destruction from which they were unable to recover. Ross Lyon’s astute use of pressure to contain the situation once they had asserted their grip on the game, and Melbourne’s self-destructive wastefulness, assured that outcome. The old adage about the insanity of repeatedly doing something and expecting a different result, was out there. Two years ago, the score line in Melbourne’s loss to the Giants at this same ground was 5 goals 15 behinds - a ratio of one goal per four scoring shots - was perfectly replicated with yesterday’s 7 goals 21 behinds. 
      This has been going on for a while and opens up a number of questions. I’ll put forward a few that come to mind from this performance. The obvious first question is whether the club can find a suitable coach to instruct players on proper kicking techniques or is this a skill that can no longer be developed at this stage of the development of our playing group? Another concern is the team's ability to counter an opponent's dominance during a run on as exemplified by the Saints in the first quarter. Did the Demons underestimate their opponents, considering St Kilda's goals during this period were scored by relatively unknown forwards? Furthermore, given the modest attendance of 6,721 at TIO Traeger Park and the team's poor past performances at this venue, is it prudent to prioritize financial gain over potentially sacrificing valuable premiership points by relinquishing home ground advantage, notwithstanding the cultural significance of the team's connection to the Red Centre? 

        • Thanks
      • 4 replies
      Demonland

    • PREGAME: Collingwood

      After a disappointing loss in Alice Springs the Demons return to the MCG to take on the Magpies in the annual King's Birthday Big Freeze for MND game. Who comes in and who goes out?

        • Thanks
      • 232 replies
      Demonland

    • PODCAST: St. Kilda

      The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 2nd June @ 8:00pm. Join Binman, George & I as we have a chat with former Demon ruckman Jeff White about his YouTube channel First Use where he dissects ruck setups and contests. We'll then discuss the Dees disappointing loss to the Saints in Alice Springs.
      Your questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show.
      Listen LIVE: https://demonland.com/

        • Thanks
      • 47 replies
      Demonland
    View All